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I looked and didn't see a thread specifically for this, so if it exists, please go ahead and point me to it.

 

Please let me know if I'm interpreting the new rules correctly.

 

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As I understood the old rules: If your ball was directly in the line of someone's putt and they asked you to mark it one way or another, you could measure from the side of the ball, put down a marker, and lift the ball. If I remember correctly, the USGA Rules Q&A had that question asked specifically and answered that it was acceptable. Of course, I can't find it anymore (assuming it's been replaced with the new rules info).

 

Under the new rules, it looks like you can no longer do it this way. It looks like your only option is to place the marker on the green in accordance with 14.1a, then move the marker in accordance with 15.3c.

 

What's a little strange, though, is that the last sentence of 15.3c states "Either the lifted ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2) or the ball-marker must be replaced to mark that spot." (I believe you only see this sentence in the "Full Rules", not the "Players Edition").

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I find your question interesting. You are absolutely right that old Decision 20-1/16 gave us the explicit authority to measure clubhead lengths either from the side of the ball or from a placed ball marker. While 14.1a says we may mark "right next to the ball" and while I know that "right next to" includes to the side, I can't find anything which says that a ball mark may be initially placed one or more clubhead lengths away from the ball. Only that, in 15.3c, a ball mark may be placed one or more clubhead lengths from the ball mark's original position.

 

So I'm at a loss over this. I sincerely doubt that the RBs had anything in mind other than ultimately getting the ball back to its original position, but on the other hand, I'm at a loss as to why the applicable segment of old 20-1/16 wasn't rewritten in the new statement format for Interpretations.

 

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I looked and didn't see a thread specifically for this, so if it exists, please go ahead and point me to it.

 

Please let me know if I'm interpreting the new rules correctly.

 

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As I understood the old rules: If your ball was directly in the line of someone's putt and they asked you to mark it one way or another, you could measure from the side of the ball, put down a marker, and lift the ball. If I remember correctly, the USGA Rules Q&A had that question asked specifically and answered that it was acceptable. Of course, I can't find it anymore (assuming it's been replaced with the new rules info).

 

Under the new rules, it looks like you can no longer do it this way. It looks like your only option is to place the marker on the green in accordance with 14.1a, then move the marker in accordance with 15.3c.

 

What's a little strange, though, is that the last sentence of 15.3c states "Either the lifted ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2) or the ball-marker must be replaced to mark that spot." (I believe you only see this sentence in the "Full Rules", not the "Players Edition").

Here's a very recent Q/A from a golf rules site run by a large State GA.

 

Q. I have seen these two putting green ball marking behaviors and I am not sure if they are legal in 2019 - please advise:

First - a ball is close to someone else's line, player asks please mark one putter head towards you, and the other person places the putter head directly next to the ball and then puts a ball marker next to the putter head.

Second - player lays her putter on the green behind the ball just touching the ball and leaves it there while she lifts and cleans the ball and then returns the ball to the green.

 

A. Rule 14.1a and the Definition of Mark permit the player to mark the ball using the club. As for the first action, so long as the ball is replaced in the correct spot, there is no problem with that procedure, although I would recommend the player place the ball-marker first then span it to the side for more accuracy.

 

I also had been interested by the visible narrowing of the wording in the new rule and had wondered the ramifications in the same way you are wondering. That said, I do find the wording in the answer above to be convincing. Reflecting further on the actual published words in the definition of mark (and the wording of 14.1a), I think it is reasonable to read an action of carefully placing a putter directly next to the ball and then placing the marker right next to the putter (rather than directly next to the ball), and returning the ball into play carefully by reversing those actions, to not be inconsistent with the rule. I agree with the answer above that first best practice would be to put the marker down first and then use the putter to move that marker, but I really don't think RBs intend there to be a penalty for placing the putter down first and then placing a marker next to the putter.

 

If anyone needs more assurance on this issue, the USGA phone line is probably the simplest avenue for further clarification.

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Here's a very recent Q/A from a golf rules site run by a large State GA.

 

Q. I have seen these two putting green ball marking behaviors and I am not sure if they are legal in 2019 - please advise:

First - a ball is close to someone else's line, player asks please mark one putter head towards you, and the other person places the putter head directly next to the ball and then puts a ball marker next to the putter head.

Second - player lays her putter on the green behind the ball just touching the ball and leaves it there while she lifts and cleans the ball and then returns the ball to the green.

 

A. Rule 14.1a and the Definition of Mark permit the player to mark the ball using the club. As for the first action, so long as the ball is replaced in the correct spot, there is no problem with that procedure, although I would recommend the player place the ball-marker first then span it to the side for more accuracy.

 

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The expression used to be 'mark the marker'.

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

If it doesn't say you can't, then you can.

I think the original question here is a very logical one that flows directly from the wording chosen in the rule and definition - you can do EITHER X OR Y - without confirming, perhaps in an interpretation, that there is no problem with combining X and Y. So I don't think this is a 'if it doesn't say you can't, then you can' sort of situation.
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The expression used to be 'mark the marker'.

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

If it doesn't say you can't, then you can.

I think the original question here is a very logical one that flows directly from the wording chosen in the rule and definition - you can do EITHER X OR Y - without confirming, perhaps in an interpretation, that there is no problem with combining X and Y. So I don't think this is a 'if it doesn't say you can't, then you can' sort of situation.

Yes, in general the rules say you "can't" (lift your ball) but there are explicit rules that say you "can" in particular circumstances and through particular procedures. So I don't see this as an "if it doesn't say you can't" thing.

 

I read the "large state golf association's" comment above. I wish they spoke (whoever they are) with an RB's authority. I fear they are simply applying logic.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

I certainly believe your point should be the rule. But I can't find justification within the rules for marking your ball itself anywhere other than "right behind or right next to the ball" as stated in 14.1a. Placing a mark next to a stationary clubhead right next to a ball makes still makes sense, as it used to, but the only place I can find in the rules which talks about placing a mark one or more clubheads away from the ball states that a (presumably already accurately placed) ball marker may be moved in that fashion.

 

Certainly this is highly technical, but many players do this. A little clarification wouldn't hurt.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

I certainly believe your point should be the rule. But I can't find justification within the rules for marking your ball itself anywhere other than "right behind or right next to the ball" as stated in 14.1a. Placing a mark next to a stationary clubhead right next to a ball makes still makes sense, as it used to, but the only place I can find in the rules which talks about placing a mark one or more clubheads away from the ball states that a (presumably already accurately placed) ball marker may be moved in that fashion.

 

Certainly this is highly technical, but many players do this. A little clarification wouldn't hurt.

Have both of you used up your allotment of calls to the USGA and R&A? :)

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

I certainly believe your point should be the rule. But I can't find justification within the rules for marking your ball itself anywhere other than "right behind or right next to the ball" as stated in 14.1a. Placing a mark next to a stationary clubhead right next to a ball makes still makes sense, as it used to, but the only place I can find in the rules which talks about placing a mark one or more clubheads away from the ball states that a (presumably already accurately placed) ball marker may be moved in that fashion.

 

Certainly this is highly technical, but many players do this. A little clarification wouldn't hurt.

Have both of you used up your allotment of calls to the USGA and R&A? :)

I'm hoping someone else will do this. I prefer to limit the locations in which I embarrass myself, I like to do it just here if at all possible. I vote for BKN1964 to make the call! After all, he/she started all the trouble!
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I can't get that excited about it. As long as the ball gets back in its original position, that'll do.

 

I remember seeing John Jacobs on (black and white) TV many moons ago, explaining how to mark away from the line of putt. He used a full putter length. He said the directional accuracy was far better with a long stick rather than a short stubby putter head.

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I can't get that excited about it. As long as the ball gets back in its original position, that'll do.

 

I remember seeing John Jacobs on (black and white) TV many moons ago, explaining how to mark away from the line of putt. He used a full putter length. He said the directional accuracy was far better with a long stick rather than a short stubby putter head.

 

I agree with that underlined little bit, its easier to aim a rifle than a pistol. But a typical putter shaft is what, 10 to 15 times as long as the putterhead itself? So to get the same absolute accuracy, you need to have an angular (directional) accuracy 10 times better. Within 5 degrees with the putter head, within 1/2 degree with the entire putterlength. I'm not buying it.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

I certainly believe your point should be the rule. But I can't find justification within the rules for marking your ball itself anywhere other than "right behind or right next to the ball" as stated in 14.1a. Placing a mark next to a stationary clubhead right next to a ball makes still makes sense, as it used to, but the only place I can find in the rules which talks about placing a mark one or more clubheads away from the ball states that a (presumably already accurately placed) ball marker may be moved in that fashion.

 

Certainly this is highly technical, but many players do this. A little clarification wouldn't hurt.

Have both of you used up your allotment of calls to the USGA and R&A? :)

I'm hoping someone else will do this. I prefer to limit the locations in which I embarrass myself, I like to do it just here if at all possible. I vote for BKN1964 to make the call! After all, he/she started all the trouble!

 

Haha! I probably will. Just wanted to make sure I'm not missing it somewhere.

 

I can't see myself calling someone on this, as I'm more of a common-sense type of guy (unless said person was being a jerk).

 

I'm more interested because I've been doing it this way since I started playing golf 40 years ago. Old habits die hard.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

I certainly believe your point should be the rule. But I can't find justification within the rules for marking your ball itself anywhere other than "right behind or right next to the ball" as stated in 14.1a. Placing a mark next to a stationary clubhead right next to a ball makes still makes sense, as it used to, but the only place I can find in the rules which talks about placing a mark one or more clubheads away from the ball states that a (presumably already accurately placed) ball marker may be moved in that fashion.

 

Certainly this is highly technical, but many players do this. A little clarification wouldn't hurt.

Have both of you used up your allotment of calls to the USGA and R&A? :)

I'm hoping someone else will do this. I prefer to limit the locations in which I embarrass myself, I like to do it just here if at all possible. I vote for BKN1964 to make the call! After all, he/she started all the trouble!

 

Haha! I probably will. Just wanted to make sure I'm not missing it somewhere.

 

I can't see myself calling someone on this, as I'm more of a common-sense type of guy (unless said person was being a jerk).

 

I'm more interested because I've been doing it this way since I started playing golf 40 years ago. Old habits die hard.

 

Email to USGA sent.

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Sorry guys, I'm not sure I understand your responses.

Ignoring 'can't' and 'can', do you agree with my more substantive point.

 

As a club may be used to mark, it is a marker (although not a ball-marker). I can't see any reason why one can't mark the ball with the club tip and then place the ball-marker at the other end.

Here's the alternate argument (not advocating, just discussing): it says you can do X or Y, but your argument above says you can do X and Y together. Simply not the same thing.

 

And to extend the discussion: BKN's original post (and I presume the email to the USGA) picked up on the thrust of the first question that was sent to the State GA. The second question also merits attention. It asks: Second - player lays her putter on the green behind the ball just touching the ball and leaves it there while she lifts and cleans the ball and then returns the ball to the green.

 

 

The definition's and 14.1a's "or" described ALTERNATIVE to marking with a ball-marker is "HOLDING a club on the ground right behind or right next to the ball." Elsewhere we have discussed the critical difference in HOLDING vs LAYING DOWN/SETTING AN OBJECT DOWN in the context of R10.2b(2) - considering whether that photo of a pro lining up his putt with his putter on the green from a few yards behind the ball could be a breach of that rule if the pro let go of his putter (that is, lay it down and not continue holding it).

 

So, IMO, it would be all too easy for a player to believe that laying a putter on the green right next to the ball and then placing a ball marker at the other end of the putter means you have not kept hold of the putter throughout this process so you have breached the rule and marked in the wrong way.

 

Marking the ball is such a fundamental and common part of playing the game and applying the rules that the language of the rules should be as clear and unambiguous as possible, and I don't think we are quite there yet.

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.
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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

 

That's what we're trying to determine. Sounds like nobody so far knows the answer.

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:


  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or

  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:

  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or
  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

I don't think anyone is referring to anything else. And Newby's question can only be answered by RBs: exactly what does their wording intend to consider a breach? On a precise reading of their words and ONLY their words, holding a club on the ground right next to your ball and placing a marker next to that club AND then lifting that club is NOT consistent with those words above from 14.1a and the definition of mark. But I don't for a moment think RBs intend such action to be a breach.

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:


  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or

  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

I read it all, and the highlighted area says you can hold your club to mark the ball, but it doesn’t say that marking the position of your club is the equivalent of marking the ball.

 

I’m a bit confused by your comment.

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:


  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or

  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

I read it all, and the highlighted area says you can hold your club to mark the ball, but it doesn’t say that marking the position of your club is the equivalent of marking the ball.

 

I’m a bit confused by your comment.

You're confused? Trying being the rest of us. Newby, I believe it was, posted that if it doesn't say you cannot-you can. If it is a valid way to mark your position why is it not a valid way to move your mark?

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:

  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or
  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

I read it all, and the highlighted area says you can hold your club to mark the ball, but it doesn’t say that marking the position of your club is the equivalent of marking the ball.

 

I’m a bit confused by your comment.

 

LOL

 

I read it the same way as Shilgy, because we wanted to. I have to believe this is an accidental omission that will quickly be remedied with an interpretation?

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I don't think you have answered my question. Rather than a generalised answer can you answer it specifically please.

 

Can a ball to be moved be marked with the toe of a club and a ball-marker be placed at the heel. Then, when the ball is to be replaced, the heel placed next to the ball-marker and the ball replaced at the toe.

If not, why not?

If it in fact is illegal, it’s because the ball must be marked “right behind or right next to the ball.” The procedure you describe does not do that.

?? 13.1b

b. Marking, Lifting and Cleaning Ball on Putting Green

 

A ball on the putting green may be lifted and cleaned (see Rule 14.1).

The spot of the ball must be marked before it is lifted and the ball must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

 

Edit-you did not read the next part of 14.1

Before lifting your ball under a Rule requiring it to be replaced on its original spot, you must mark the spot, which means to:


  • Place a ball-marker right behind or right next to your ball, or

  • Hold a club on the ground right behind or right next to your ball.

I read it all, and the highlighted area says you can hold your club to mark the ball, but it doesn’t say that marking the position of your club is the equivalent of marking the ball.

 

I’m a bit confused by your comment.

You're confused? Trying being the rest of us. Newby, I believe it was, posted that if it doesn't say you cannot-you can. If it is a valid way to mark your position why is it not a valid way to move your mark?

 

They aren’t talking about moving the mark. They are talking about using that method to place the original marker.

 

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Personally I have always favoured simplicity and as few steps as possible. Thus I have tended to mark with the club and placed the ball-marker directly by the heel. IMO this is faster and more accurate way than first marking the spot and then moving the marker. I would be disappointed as well as astonished if this would now be against the Rules.

 

On the other hand, there are some changes in the Rules having nothing to do with logic so this could be one more...

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I thought this was a point of emphasis in the new rules. But I can’t find my info from 2017 that said it. Unless I dreamed it. IDK.

 

I recall it saying the ball has to be marked, with a ball mark, then the mark can be moved. This was done to make it a universal and repeatable procedure. And other players would know instantly if it was done incorrectly.

 

I even recall a thread on it in here. Lots of discussion about marker sizes/shapes/tour issue.

 

It seems nothing came of it in the new rules as they have muddied up the wording and that’s why this is a thread.

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Had any one noticed that measure must be taken from the original spot not the marker?

 

"The ball-marker must be moved out of the way to a new spot measured from its original spot, such as by using one or more clubhead-lengths."

 

So it is not marking the mark (ball-marker), which is in effect irrelevant or redundant

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Doesn't Rule 15.3c sort this out entirely? I'm at a loss as to what the problem is - but I've only just skimmed through the thread.

 

By marking your ball with the toe of your putter and then marking the heel of your putter - or the butt if you go for the club-length, aren't you doing exactly what it says?

 

The ball-marker must be moved out of the way to a new spot measured from its original spot, such as by using one or more clubhead-lengths.

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      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #1
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Garrick Higgo - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Billy Horschel - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Lanto Griffin - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bud Cauley - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Corbin Burnes (2021 NL Cy Young) - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Charley Hoffman - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Victor Perez - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ryo Hisatsune - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Jake Knapp's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      New Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Tyler Duncan's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sunjae Im's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ping's Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Vincent Whaley's custom Cameron - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Odyssey Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Super Stroke custom grips - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Zac Blair's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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