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With those shafts in the 790’s you must hit those things a mile.

 

I hit the 730’with a Ctaper = 176 carry

Same shaft in the 7 iron 790 = 202 carry

 

I do have my lofts weakened up these to match my gapping but yes they are a very long hitting iron for sure. I prefer to stop the ball more with trajectory than spin.

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You try out the f9 yet?

 

Yes we tested in a couple months back. It's a very nice driver. Comparable to something like Callaway Epic SZ. The nice thing with Cobra, unlike Callaway, is that the heads are not draw biased. With a few of the Taylormade guys over there now, Cobra has got it's game together the last few years. They make a very nice product but not something I'd play over my current driver or an M5. There's just so comfort zone with my driver that anything new would have to outperform in several ways and nothing is doing that at this point. M5 though once I dial the very very low spin in, may have a shot.

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You try out the f9 yet?

 

Yes we tested in a couple months back. It's a very nice driver. Comparable to something like Callaway Epic SZ. The nice thing with Cobra, unlike Callaway, is that the heads are not draw biased. With a few of the Taylormade guys over there now, Cobra has got it's game together the last few years. They make a very nice product but not something I'd play over my current driver or an M5. There's just so comfort zone with my driver that anything new would have to outperform in several ways and nothing is doing that at this point. M5 though once I dial the very very low spin in, may have a shot.

M5 460 or the 435 you think will be the GOAT driver this year?
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You try out the f9 yet?

 

Yes we tested in a couple months back. It's a very nice driver. Comparable to something like Callaway Epic SZ. The nice thing with Cobra, unlike Callaway, is that the heads are not draw biased. With a few of the Taylormade guys over there now, Cobra has got it's game together the last few years. They make a very nice product but not something I'd play over my current driver or an M5. There's just so comfort zone with my driver that anything new would have to outperform in several ways and nothing is doing that at this point. M5 though once I dial the very very low spin in, may have a shot.

M5 460 or the 435 you think will be the GOAT driver this year?

 

We will be doing a data thread in the next month or so, but the spin on M5 is so low that if everyone gets the loft right, it is a marked jump in high launch low spin type ball flight. Anyone who needs this is going to absolutely love this driver. It is incredibly long hitting when dialed in correctly.

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Toll,

 

Do you find the UDI more forgiving then the 790?

Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus 7*........................Project X Smoke Green 60 TX
Taylormade Stealth Plus 13*.........................Fujikura Ventus Black 8X
Taylormade Stealth Plus 17*.........................Fujikura Ventus Black 9X

Srixon ZX Utility 3..........................................Fujikura Ventus Black 10TX
Srixon ZX Utility 4..........................................Dynamic Gold X7
Srixon ZX7 5-9...............................................Dynamic Gold X7
Cleveland Zipcore Raw 47, 53......................Dynamic Gold X7

Vokey Wedge Works V Grind 59..................Dynamic Gold S400
Yes! Ann.........................................................KBS GPS 120

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Hello TollBros, do you have any experience with M4 Tour Fairway? Why didn‘t played any pro the Tour Version?

 

My set up is trusted and optimized based on launch and spin for me that there just isn't anything to gain until something gives me more ball speed. The only set up I've hit that does that is M5 Tour issue deep face TS. I'm messing around with one with ATX Tour Green Graphene at the moment. It's the first 3 wood in 4 years that has any chance to knock that m2 out. Only because it's about 3mph faster off the face.

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You don’t have issues hitting the UDI into par 5s? I have one and it doesn’t hold greens for me nearly as well as a hybrid. Also it’s a lot harder for me to hit out of any sort of rough. Ended up switching to an 818 H2 with Atmos Black 90x and I have found it just as good off the tee and a lot more versatile.

 

Please hurry and post your 2019 driver data ?

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Is the m5 deep face a titanium head and adjustable? Interesting that they switched the deep face from the non adjustable m2/m4 heads

 

There are always many variations of Tour only heads in both lines but the glued heads have always appealed to me most. There has always been a slightly deeper faced TS, meaning the 13 degree in M2 and M4 as well. And yes it is titanium and adjustable.

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You don’t have issues hitting the UDI into par 5s? I have one and it doesn’t hold greens for me nearly as well as a hybrid. Also it’s a lot harder for me to hit out of any sort of rough. Ended up switching to an 818 H2 with Atmos Black 90x and I have found it just as good off the tee and a lot more versatile.

 

Please hurry and post your 2019 driver data ?

 

I don't. I hit the ball massively high though with my irons. I tend to take very shallow divots and add a little loft. My spin is low but my trajectory is very high. Sort of Jason Day like. And we are in the Midwest so the greens are usually pretty receptive. Rough wise I agree with you that a hybrid goes through better but I seriously just cannot hit them. I hit them massively high and hook every one of them, and when I try to flatten out the lie a lot I catch too much toe through the rough. I've tried. I just can't use them.

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I will get new pics up soon. I'm just toggling between the 2016 M2 head and the M5 Tour issue head. Both are set up with Rogue 130 White 70tx. If I can get this M5 in a setting that I feel like I can control it as well, it will be a new addition to the bag.

 

 

Moving away from the Synergy Black, JT??

[b]TaylorMade SIM[/b] - 10.5 deg - w/ Aldila Synergy Black Proto 60-TX tipped 0.5 - 44.75"
[b]Adams XTD TI[/b] - 2 hybrid (16.5 deg) - Matrix HM3 105g X
[b]TaylorMade P790 -[/b] 3i (1 deg weak) - KBS C-Taper Lite-X (ss1)
[b]TaylorMade P790 -[/b] 4-6: (2 deg weak) - KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Adams MB2 - [/b] 7-PW: KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Titleist Vokey[/b] SM4: 50 F Grind - KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Callaway[/b] PM Grind 56 - bent to 55, PM Grind 60 - Dynamic Gold TI s400
[b]Tiger NP2 Replica G.O.A.T.:[/b] - 35.5in

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I will get new pics up soon. I'm just toggling between the 2016 M2 head and the M5 Tour issue head. Both are set up with Rogue 130 White 70tx. If I can get this M5 in a setting that I feel like I can control it as well, it will be a new addition to the bag.

 

 

Moving away from the Synergy Black, JT??

 

Yes. I love there performance but if I can have the same performance with a bit more firmness in the profile, that's perfect.

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What did you tweak your 790 lofts too? Just got the 4 iron debating 5-pw 760. Or May just go all 790s and tweak the lofts some.

 

I adjusted each club individually to fit the gaps I wanted. I started off of a 44 degree PW and went from there. Many of the long irons are weaker than listed because they just go so darn far.

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Any iron changes for 2019?

 

No sir. I'll be sticking with the exact same set from last season. I haven't found anything better.

 

Tell us more about the 435 M5 Tour Driver...super interested...

 

Currently game an F9 at 9 degree set to 8 degrees and Atmos TS Black 7X tipped an inch at 45” and it’s great but always looking... My swing speed is 117-122ish.

 

Edit: I guess I misread. You have a tour issue but not a smaller Tour Head? Any feedback on the 435? Thanks

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Any iron changes for 2019?

 

No sir. I'll be sticking with the exact same set from last season. I haven't found anything better.

 

Tell us more about the 435 M5 Tour Driver...super interested...

 

Currently game an F9 at 9 degree set to 8 degrees and Atmos TS Black 7X tipped an inch at 45” and it’s great but always looking... My swing speed is 117-122ish.

 

Edit: I guess I misread. You have a tour issue but not a smaller Tour Head? Any feedback on the 435? Thanks

 

I play the 460 head. I will have a full thread on the new drivers with data and all up as soon as we restock on m5 and M6 heads. A couple weeks. This thread should have anything you'd want to see for the 2019 drivers. We have been collecting on the low spin heads for this season and will report our findings.

 

Taylormade m5

Taylormade m6

Cobra F9

Callaway Epic Flash SZ

Titleist TS2

Ping G400 Plus

 

 

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Any iron changes for 2019?

 

No sir. I'll be sticking with the exact same set from last season. I haven't found anything better.

 

Tell us more about the 435 M5 Tour Driver...super interested...

 

Currently game an F9 at 9 degree set to 8 degrees and Atmos TS Black 7X tipped an inch at 45” and it’s great but always looking... My swing speed is 117-122ish.

 

Edit: I guess I misread. You have a tour issue but not a smaller Tour Head? Any feedback on the 435? Thanks

 

I play the 460 head. I will have a full thread on the new drivers with data and all up as soon as we restock on m5 and M6 heads. A couple weeks. This thread should have anything you'd want to see for the 2019 drivers. We have been collecting on the low spin heads for this season and will report our findings.

 

Taylormade m5

Taylormade m6

Cobra F9

Callaway Epic Flash SZ

Titleist TS2

Ping G400 Plus

Hell yes.

AI Smoke Max @ 7* +8g front weight - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.25”)

BRNR Mini 13.5(@12.5*) 43.25” - Diamana DF 70tx(tipped 1.75”)

TSR 3h 19* - AV Raw White 9x    OR   FliHi 3(19*) - Modus 125x

Edel SMS 4,5 SMS Pro 6-P - PX LS 6.5

Cleveland RTX 6 50/55 - X100

Titleist SM9 60.12 D grind - S400

Piretti Savona 

 

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After watching the TXG review of the G410, will be interested to see if you get similar results to what they've observed so far.

 

Well it will be a test of identically speced out drivers all the way down to CT and face angle with at least 5-7 players of varying swing styles and speeds. I expect it should tell you everything you'll want to know about all these heads with the least amount of product variables possible. We weren't going to do this for this year because of time constraints, however I personally wanted to provide this info for the community. The last thing I want is people making purchase decisions off of single player reviews that often really don't apply to them.

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