Bryson DeChambeau is a modern day Bobby Jones

[Titleist_PT23]

Bryson seems like a modern day Sergio.

[BB28403]

Bryson seems like a modern day Sergio.

 

Only 1 Sergio!

 

What are you doing Sergio?! In a batting cage acting like a damn fool!

 

364 days till hockey season chubbs!

 

 

[Guia]

If Bryson is like anyone it has to be Moe Norman. Single plane swing, does their own thing regardless of what everyone else thinks or does. In the current crowd of players, Bryson is like Bryson. Useless, to compare what he is, or what he may become to anyone else.

 

Everyone does not need to be quantified. Enjoy what is individual to each person without comparison.

[tiderider]

If Bryson is like anyone it has to be Moe Norman. Single plane swing, does their own thing regardless of what everyone else thinks or does. In the current crowd of players, Bryson is like Bryson. Useless, to compare what he is, or what he may become to anyone else.

 

Everyone does not need to be quantified. Enjoy what is individuality to each person without comparison.

 

if you're bryson, it does ... dude probably tests the tensile strength of his toilet paper, and gets called "genius" for doing it ...

[Guia]

agolf1: That is a terrible thing to say, Sergio has not come close to living up to his ability. His attitude has always sucked, and he acts like a 3 year old. Bryson, is still young and not displayed the melt down that Sergio has had throughout his career. Also, Sergio has shown to be a bit of a bigot.

[Titleist_PT23]

 

agolf1: That is a terrible thing to say, Sergio has not come close to living up to his ability. His attitude has always sucked, and he acts like a 3 year old. Bryson, is still young and not displayed the melt down that Sergio has had throughout his career. Also, Sergio has shown to be a bit of a bigot.

Won't disagree on the talent/living up to ability for Sergio. I'm not sure Bryson has always behaved the best either (have you seen the recent articles on him?). Hopefully, he won't do this for 10+ years like Sergio.

[Guia]

Totally agree with your assessment (seems like a lot of Ss's). Bryson has shown some small tantrums and some bade sportsmanship. I will give him the benefit of doubt and think he will mature better than Sergio.

[James the Hogan Fan]

Re: Jones won 44% of his starts. I'd think that qualifies as one of the greatest. He won for USO 3 open Championships and 5 us arms and a British am. That's not greatness?

 

 

 

Jones was solid and consistent player at a time when golf was being played by fewer people.

The odds were in his favor.

 

actually 4 US opens, 3 Opens.......and he was more than 'solid and consistent'......you just don't win 7 of these because the 'field wan thinner' at that time.

 

From 1923 until 1930 Jones won 4 US Opens; he also finished second 3 times, and only once missed the top 10, finishing T11.

 

In the same time period, he won every single Open Championship that he entered - 3.

 

If that isn't one of the greatest records in golf, I don't know what is.

 

And I don’t buy a weak field argument either. Jones’ career placed him in competition with:

- An in-prime Walter Hagen

- An early-prime Gene Sarazen

-An in-prime Tommy Armour

-A late-prime to washed up Ted Ray

 

With the passage of time the other names of the era would be forgotten, as is normal. 90 years from the conclusion of this golf era will Vijay Singh, Adam Scott, or Zach Johnson be remembered next to Woods, Mickelson, perhaps Speith? Even Ernie Els, a multiple-major winner and great golfer will probably eventually wind up as familiar as Jimmy Demaret is today?

 

Go back 30 years pre-jones, ie pre-Harry Vardon, and suddenly only Old and Young Tom Morris are known. Those guys might have the “no one else played golf” help, but really greatness of era is hard to compare and hard to even quantify.

 

Edit: I’ll add: The history of modern pro sports is only about 150 years, thats what, 4-5 generations? Time has not had time to really show how people are remembered in sports, but it seems like past 50-60 years, you only get 1-5 greats who linger in memory.

 

Jones Armour Hagen Sarazen in this case.

[Rich Douglas]

His whole "scientific" approach and "intelligence" is blown WAY out of proportion. I consider anyone who actually finished their physics degree, and people who work in medical/research/most engineering fields to be more of a scientist than a someone with 3 years as a physics undergrad. I'm an engineer and don't remotely consider myself a scientist.

 

I'm not knocking his data-centric approach and wanting to isolate variables during practice so he can be prepared for what the course throws at him. It's obviously working for him (unless they make him pick up the pace, which would be awesome and he may implode) But it's a little silly that he tests the effect of a wet clubface and golf media goes "OMGGGGG HE'S A MAAAAD SCIENTIST!" He's not putting out statistical analysis of whatever he's doing, he's not getting published, he's just a dude that likes physical sciences so maybe chill out a bit.

 

Also, my >$.000002 is that someone who is actually smart can explain a complex topic in a very simple manner. He uses 1000 of the biggest words possible to say his shoulder hurts. To me that doesn't say he's smart, just that he's a bit of a try hard. My thermodynamics professor was my favorite because he made everything seem so straight forward rather than remind everyone he was a PhD and we were but lowly undergrads.

 

Okay, but without a real identity, your claims regarding yourself are irrelevant.

 

I agree that the media put too much emphasis on the "mad scientist" element. But you have to admit that he's pushing things out there. Single-plane (not the first), upright swing (Moe Norman), side-saddle putting (Snead), single-length irons (many when hickory was the thing), and others are concepts he's pulled back to try out. He used a compass on a yardage book (probably to check yardages from where he was). Even his hat is someone else's. So I don't know why people get upset with this guy. He's just trying out old things to see if they should be new again. Oh, and winning. Lots of that.

 

I use my real name. I have two doctorates and an MBA. But they don't make my opinions on golf any more relevant. Those must stand on their own....or fall/fail.

[Wildwing55]

Bobby Jones, to my recollection, was never a ****head when he didn't win. And this is pretty recent, with Bryson, not that I dislike him, I don't. He has a lot of time left.

 

But, to compare Bryson with Bobby Jones would be like comparing Snoop Dog with Beethoven. I would say, no...

[BB28403]

Bobby Jones, to my recollection, was never a ****head when he didn't win. And this is pretty recent, with Bryson, not that I dislike him, I don't. He has a lot of time left.

 

But, to compare Bryson with Bobby Jones would be like comparing Snoop Dog with Beethoven. I would say, no...

 

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[jgonz69]

https://golfhistorynut.wordpress.com/2014/02/12/the-temper-of-bobby-jones/

[IVM]

Not in your wildest dreams .