Can Dustin Johnson's swing hold up in his later years?

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Today's deeper fields aside, can DJ match Phil in win totals by the time he reaches 50 years of age? He's on pace to do so, but it just seems that age would have a detrimental impact on that swing.
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  • SocratesSocrates Warning Points 1+ WinnipegClubWRX  10201WRX Points: 1,107Handicap: 4ishPosts: 10,201 ClubWRX
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    There is a greater likelihood that a jealous husband or a crazy girlfriend will get to him first.



    I see nothing in his swing that will hurt him long term.
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  • OldTomMorrisOldTomMorris Edinburgh, ScotlandMembers  3390WRX Points: 1,200Posts: 3,390 Titanium Tees
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    His swing has never been a favourite of mine from an aesthetic point of view but he has such an amazing impact position. The control and precision he has developed is so impressive.



    I don't see any issues for him. At this moment I can only see him getting better.
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    DJ will be just fine for years.



    They were talking about him on NLU and whether he gets to 30 wins. I think that's a no brainer. You could see him picking up another 3, 4 or even 5 this year without too much hassle. The thing he needs to do for his legacy is to make one of those a major. Way too good to be on the same number of majors as Shaun Micheel.
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    Is he actually on pace to match Phil? DJ has 20 wins at age 34. The second half of his career will be more proficient than the first half? Phil won the Masters at age 34 for win #23. I guess that is close, but is not on pace to pass or match PM unless he wins two more times before Augusta and then wins again there.



    I’m in the camp that DJ gets derailed by a wife/girlfriend/both before getting to 40 wins.
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    The guy has never been hurt, so i think his swing will last
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    the TW era spawned a whole generation of actual athletes like DJ taking up the game of golf and flourishing at it, DJ and Brooks put in time at the gym and the results are proof that their work pays off...
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    I would be interested in hearing just exactly what it is about DJ's swing that OP thinks will make him break down? I'm all for discussion, but people are just inventing things at this point.



    "Shock journalism making it's way into forums: Is it a bigger problem than slow play on tour making it's way into the munis across the land?" (wow that was easier than I thought)
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    With absolutely nothing scientific to back it up, when I watch his swing its one of those that looks like its got a lot of moving parts so if he ever got out of sync with any of that I could see some problems. OTOH he hasn't done it so far and is keeping it together nicely so barring injury I'd say he's got a good shot at reaching Mickleson's win total and beyond.
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    While I constantly poke fun at DJ, for his dopey character and behavior, I truly love his ability to rotate freely. Dude has incredibly great flexibility and his body is almost ideal for maintaining that type of dexterity for many decades to come.

    The only thing I can see stopping him is the nose candy.... aka: rails.. aka: yayo... but hopefully Gret's was able to impart some of his wisdom from his days partying with the Oilers..
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    DJs swing is long and smooth. There's not exact science but much like Phil I see it as a swing that will not cause injuries. I agree with those that say the biggest threat to his long term longevity would more likely be off the course stuff rather than injury.
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    Vindog wrote:


    I would be interested in hearing just exactly what it is about DJ's swing that OP thinks will make him break down? I'm all for discussion, but people are just inventing things at this point.



    "Shock journalism making it's way into forums: Is it a bigger problem than slow play on tour making it's way into the munis across the land?" (wow that was easier than I thought)




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    the bishop wrote:


    With absolutely nothing scientific to back it up, when I watch his swing its one of those that looks like its got a lot of moving parts so if he ever got out of sync with any of that I could see some problems. OTOH he hasn't done it so far and is keeping it together nicely so barring injury I'd say he's got a good shot at reaching Mickleson's win total and beyond.




    i agree with that take ... natural swings hold up, imo ... not sure his is natural ... no logic for thinking that; however, i've got more evidence of your opinion than the evidence backing the accusations of dj's off the course behavior, so there's that ...
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    DJ will be around as long as he's interested in competing. Long fluid swings last longer & cause less harm than shorter violent changes of direction. He definitely puts in the work at the gym to support healthy frame and core.
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    cwglum wrote:


    DJ will be around as long as he's interested in competing. Long fluid swings last longer & cause less harm than shorter violent changes of direction. He definitely puts in the work at the gym to support healthy frame and core.




    Agreed with you. I think he is more interested than we all think, and there is an article on Golf Digest on wondering and giving reasons on why he is a golf savant because he is the opposite of what we expect out of an athlete in a sport that we all make harder than it has to be. He boils it down to the point where golf is boring when he talks about it, but I believe that is what has helped him never really fall into the younger generation of their mind getting in their way. Rory, JT, Spieth, Rahm, Bryson, they all get in their way in the mind. I think DJ as much as we poke fun as his demeanor on the course is the reason he was able to overcome blowing majors early in his career and keep winning year after year. In terms of his swing, being long like he is, he doesn't ever seem to muscle a ball further and can be smooth about it. Smaller guys you see them giving a little extra which could wear down a body quicker than someone who using the length of their body to create power.
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    Vindog wrote:


    I would be interested in hearing just exactly what it is about DJ's swing that OP thinks will make him break down? I'm all for discussion, but people are just inventing things at this point.



    "Shock journalism making it's way into forums: Is it a bigger problem than slow play on tour making it's way into the munis across the land?" (wow that was easier than I thought)




    That super shut face and bowed wrist position he gets to at the top of his swing requires incredible athleticism to create the necessary body turn through the ball to accommodate it. As it stands now its a swing that is almost infallible, but what happens when he gets a few more years on him and loses a fraction of that athleticism? We all go "out of warranty" at some point.
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    3whacker wrote:


    the TW era spawned a whole generation of actual athletes like DJ taking up the game of golf and flourishing at it, DJ and Brooks put in time at the gym and the results are proof that their work pays off...




    Truth.



    20 years ago DJ isn't playing golf, he's playing Basketball.
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    3whacker wrote:


    the TW era spawned a whole generation of actual athletes like DJ taking up the game of golf and flourishing at it, DJ and Brooks put in time at the gym and the results are proof that their work pays off...




    Truth.



    20 years ago DJ isn't playing golf, he's playing Basketball.




    I think 20 years ago DJ was playing golf.
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    age plays cruel tricks on us. His reverse C will look like an exclamation point in 15 years.
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    3whacker wrote:


    the TW era spawned a whole generation of actual athletes like DJ taking up the game of golf and flourishing at it, DJ and Brooks put in time at the gym and the results are proof that their work pays off...




    Truth.



    20 years ago DJ isn't playing golf, he's playing Basketball.




    I think 20 years ago DJ was playing golf.




    If he was an adult 20 years ago. Obviously, he was playing golf as he was 15 during the Tiger boom.



    Point being, if Tiger isn't around, I don't think someone like DJ is playing professional golf.
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    I don’t think DJ, matches Phil’s win totals.



    But he does has a better shot than Spieth. At least that nonsense has gone away temporarily.
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    I don’t think DJ, matches Phil’s win totals.



    But he does has a better shot than Spieth. At least that nonsense has gone away temporarily.


    Does DJ match Spieths major total tho.
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    2putttom wrote:


    age plays cruel tricks on us. His reverse C will look like an exclamation point in 15 years.
    Reverse C?

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    I don't see why it wouldn't last and don't really understand the comments from guys saying it won't. Sure the face is shut at the top, but that just allows him to rotate freely in the DS and as long as the COM follows the same path he has it on now he's a walking stripe show. Just watch a slow motion face on view of him and his body movements. It doesn't get any better in my opinion.
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    Doesnt' even seem like he's trying



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    DJ's been doing the same thing for a long time. If something was going to go sideways, there would be signs right now. If he takes care of himself and Paulina doesn't go off the rails, he'll be fine. The meme that he could have been a great BB player is right there with the "Tiger is built like a LB".
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    Shilgy wrote:

    2putttom wrote:


    age plays cruel tricks on us. His reverse C will look like an exclamation point in 15 years.
    Reverse C?

    http://www.golf.com/...-4-makes-eagle/




    His grip is the biggest question I have. his thumbs are barely on the grip, it feels so goofy to even hold the club that way.
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    Is he actually on pace to match Phil? DJ has 20 wins at age 34. The second half of his career will be more proficient than the first half? Phil won the Masters at age 34 for win #23. I guess that is close, but is not on pace to pass or match PM unless he wins two more times before Augusta and then wins again there.



    I'm in the camp that DJ gets derailed by a wife/girlfriend/both before getting to 40 wins.




    That's where I'm at. DJ has had a stellar career so far but putting him in Phil's category is at least 10 years premature. Phil is not only one of the top ten golfers of all time, but he's probably one of the top three old golfers of all time. What he's accomplished over the age of 40 is unreal. Phil is a huge outlier for over 40 Tour pros. I'm not comfortable assuming DJ will get there just because he's roughly on the same trajectory as Phil at age 34. Who could've predicted in 2008 that Phil would win more majors than Tiger over the next ten years? Golf is unpredictable. Will DJ have a Phil level career by the time he's done? Maybe, but the odds are against it.
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    Dr. Block wrote:

    Vindog wrote:


    I would be interested in hearing just exactly what it is about DJ's swing that OP thinks will make him break down? I'm all for discussion, but people are just inventing things at this point.



    "Shock journalism making it's way into forums: Is it a bigger problem than slow play on tour making it's way into the munis across the land?" (wow that was easier than I thought)




    That super shut face and bowed wrist position he gets to at the top of his swing requires incredible athleticism to create the necessary body turn through the ball to accommodate it. As it stands now its a swing that is almost infallible, but what happens when he gets a few more years on him and loses a fraction of that athleticism? We all go "out of warranty" at some point.




    yeah, it reminds me a bit of Duval, super strong grip and a lot of rotation can put a toll on the body. That being said DJ seems to be in a little better shape than DD physically. ......but man the way DJ swings it looks like it really buts a lot of torque on the back/spine and wrists.



    Phil's swings is long and loose, but it seems like it puts less strain on the body in general with a more neutral grip and angles.
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    As someone who deals with a cranky back I've got concerns. Just watching him swing sometimes makes me wince. At some point flexibility begins to wain for everyone. But he's as athletically gifted and works as hard to be fit as anybody out there. If anybody can do it it's him.



    He has had 2 supposed back injuries already, the stair slipping accident before The Masters in 2017 and (if you believe his story) the "jet ski" incident from several years back. Neither were golf induced though, but any back injury doesn't bode well for a golfer.
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    Depends on how often he takes the stairs
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