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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

 

Did the Gen 1 XF draw more for you than the Gen 2 ?

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

 

Agreed. Gen2 is neutral; I have both the Gen 1 and 2 XF.

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

 

Did the Gen 1 XF draw more for you than the Gen 2 ?

 

Yes the Gen1 definitely drew more. Much more hooks

The GEN2 is higher launching, flatter flight, and falls left. Much more carry and still has roll out

I’m in love with this driver

 

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

What do you mean by “falls left “?

Did the Gen 1 XF draw more for you than the Gen 2 ?

 

Yes the Gen1 definitely drew more. Much more hooks

The GEN2 is higher launching, flatter flight, and falls left. Much more carry and still has roll out

I’m in love with this driver

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

 

Did the Gen 1 XF draw more for you than the Gen 2 ?

 

Yes the Gen1 definitely drew more. Much more hooks

The GEN2 is higher launching, flatter flight, and falls left. Much more carry and still has roll out

I’m in love with this driver

 

What do you mean by “falls left”?

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Was reading some reviews on the gen 1 0811XF and it seems it was extremely draw biased even with the weights neutral. Is the Gen 2 XF as draw biased ?

 

In my opinion it is pretty neutral bias. My miss is left and I had to try hard to miss it big left.

I found the exact same thing and I’m using the same shaft I used in the Gen1 XF

 

Did the Gen 1 XF draw more for you than the Gen 2 ?

 

Yes the Gen1 definitely drew more. Much more hooks

The GEN2 is higher launching, flatter flight, and falls left. Much more carry and still has roll out

I’m in love with this driver

 

WarEagleWeb nailed it; the XF is a great driver.

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It may have been mentioned earlier but I have not seen it. This club has been out a while now and there are none of the traditional reviews by the you tubers who usually review clubs. I thought I had heard that they didn't send any to those guys until the Not allowed because of spam test was done but that would not keep anyone from buying one and doing a review. I am very curious to see what they have to say. I finally got to see them in person this weekend and I think its one of the best looking clubs out there. The guy at this facility said it was the best sounding club they had but it was a little down in ball speed from the Callaway, Cobra and TS3. would like to see some numbers

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^^ when I was at Club Champion he said that it swings slower becaise of the higher head weight plus their shaft connect system which makes it swingweight at like a D8. Could be why it has slower ballspeed than some of the other oem offerings.

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^^ when I was at Club Champion he said that it swings slower becaise of the higher head weight plus their shaft connect system which makes it swingweight at like a D8. Could be why it has slower ballspeed than some of the other oem offerings.

 

You can adjust the head weight and swing weight by changing the screws.

 

Club champion's connector system adds swingweight. A lot of their fittings end with swingweight of D7 or higher. They tried to give me a LST with D7. I recently heard their owner on the radio claiming D9 was a great swingweight. Guy is nuts!

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^^ when I was at Club Champion he said that it swings slower becaise of the higher head weight plus their shaft connect system which makes it swingweight at like a D8. Could be why it has slower ballspeed than some of the other oem offerings.

 

You can adjust the head weight and swing weight by changing the screws.

 

Are you able to elaborate? I had mine built 0811x built to D2 but swings like you said really heavy like at least D8.. Which is unplayable and effects center strikes.

 

Thanks

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^^ when I was at Club Champion he said that it swings slower becaise of the higher head weight plus their shaft connect system which makes it swingweight at like a D8. Could be why it has slower ballspeed than some of the other oem offerings.

 

You can adjust the head weight and swing weight by changing the screws.

 

Are you able to elaborate? I had mine built 0811x built to D2 but swings like you said really heavy like at least D8.. Which is unplayable and effects center strikes.

 

Thanks

 

The screws in the head are different weights, if you want a lighter Swingweight just replace some of the heavier weights with light ones. The light weights can be ordered from PXG direct

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^^ when I was at Club Champion he said that it swings slower becaise of the higher head weight plus their shaft connect system which makes it swingweight at like a D8. Could be why it has slower ballspeed than some of the other oem offerings.

 

You can adjust the head weight and swing weight by changing the screws.

 

Club champion's connector system adds swingweight. A lot of their fittings end with swingweight of D7 or higher. They tried to give me a LST with D7. I recently heard their owner on the radio claiming D9 was a great swingweight. Guy is nuts!

Club Champion is a complete joke. Stay away.

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Just got mine.

 

Does anyone know how the loft adjustments affect face angle? PXG told me that the face angle closes as you go up in loft. But I swear, I tried both extremes and it looks like the face angle opens as you go up in loft.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I don't know, but does it really matter. All that matters is how you grip the club. In the end, you are hovering the driver, so you can grab it however you like.

 

A lot of club makers adjust loft via face angle. I.e. go up in loft by closing the face. Because when you set a closed faced driver back to square face angle, you gained loft. Same thing happens if you bend the face angle open. When setting up with a square face, you will have less loft.

 

In the end, you want to deliver the clubface square to the ball. And best way to do that is by setting up with a square face to begin with, regardless what the face angle is when you sole the club.

 

Congrats on your driver. I ordered mine in January and still haven't received it. Really annoying. But I did get my new Epic Flash SZ today and that thing is a cannon.

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Just got mine.

 

Does anyone know how the loft adjustments affect face angle? PXG told me that the face angle closes as you go up in loft. But I swear, I tried both extremes and it looks like the face angle opens as you go up in loft.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I don't know, but does it really matter. All that matters is how you grip the club. In the end, you are hovering the driver, so you can grab it however you like.

 

A lot of club makers adjust loft via face angle. I.e. go up in loft by closing the face. Because when you set a closed faced driver back to square face angle, you gained loft. Same thing happens if you bend the face angle open. When setting up with a square face, you will have less loft.

 

In the end, you want to deliver the clubface square to the ball. And best way to do that is by setting up with a square face to begin with, regardless what the face angle is when you sole the club.

 

Congrats on your driver. I ordered mine in January and still haven't received it. Really annoying. But I did get my new Epic Flash SZ today and that thing is a cannon.

I'm very confused by this. Why wouldn't it matter? If you sole the club and lay it it perpendicular to the ground. The face angle could be closed or open at the loft it's intended to be. I'm no expert but I would think that absolutely does matter. It also messes with me visually if something looks too closed. In any case, my question was actually about the function of the PXG adapter itself and how it works.
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Just got mine.

 

Does anyone know how the loft adjustments affect face angle? PXG told me that the face angle closes as you go up in loft. But I swear, I tried both extremes and it looks like the face angle opens as you go up in loft.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I don't know, but does it really matter. All that matters is how you grip the club. In the end, you are hovering the driver, so you can grab it however you like.

 

A lot of club makers adjust loft via face angle. I.e. go up in loft by closing the face. Because when you set a closed faced driver back to square face angle, you gained loft. Same thing happens if you bend the face angle open. When setting up with a square face, you will have less loft.

 

In the end, you want to deliver the clubface square to the ball. And best way to do that is by setting up with a square face to begin with, regardless what the face angle is when you sole the club.

 

Congrats on your driver. I ordered mine in January and still haven't received it. Really annoying. But I did get my new Epic Flash SZ today and that thing is a cannon.

I'm very confused by this. Why wouldn't it matter? If you sole the club and lay it it perpendicular to the ground. The face angle could be closed or open at the loft it's intended to be. I'm no expert but I would think that absolutely does matter. It also messes with me visually if something looks too closed. In any case, my question was actually about the function of the PXG adapter itself and how it works.

 

Adjustability 101...

 

http://www.golfalot.com/equipment-news/guide-to-adjustable-golf-clubs-2876.aspx

 

Also, the adapter info is in this thread back a few pages...

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Just got mine.

 

Does anyone know how the loft adjustments affect face angle? PXG told me that the face angle closes as you go up in loft. But I swear, I tried both extremes and it looks like the face angle opens as you go up in loft.

 

Any thoughts?

 

I don't know, but does it really matter. All that matters is how you grip the club. In the end, you are hovering the driver, so you can grab it however you like.

 

A lot of club makers adjust loft via face angle. I.e. go up in loft by closing the face. Because when you set a closed faced driver back to square face angle, you gained loft. Same thing happens if you bend the face angle open. When setting up with a square face, you will have less loft.

 

In the end, you want to deliver the clubface square to the ball. And best way to do that is by setting up with a square face to begin with, regardless what the face angle is when you sole the club.

 

Congrats on your driver. I ordered mine in January and still haven't received it. Really annoying. But I did get my new Epic Flash SZ today and that thing is a cannon.

I'm very confused by this. Why wouldn't it matter? If you sole the club and lay it it perpendicular to the ground. The face angle could be closed or open at the loft it's intended to be. I'm no expert but I would think that absolutely does matter. It also messes with me visually if something looks too closed. In any case, my question was actually about the function of the PXG adapter itself and how it works.

 

Adjustability 101...

 

http://www.golfalot....clubs-2876.aspx

 

Also, the adapter info is in this thread back a few pages...

I see. Based on what I'm reading the loft adjustment is actually a face angle adjustment. You make an adjustment by re-squaring the face and thus the loft change happens. But like I said before, I like to sole the cub naturally at a 90 degree angle and grip it - so does that mean I won't be able to do this anymore, because I have to adjust the face back to square?
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