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twgolf78twgolf78  186Members Posts: 186
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Hello Im looking for Some Long Term Cleveland RTX 4 Reviews



I played and loved Cleveland wedges back in the day - the 15s or something like that. I really liked them.



I moved to Vokeys the last 6 or 7 years and my wedge game as sucked . It's not the clubs but I want a change.



Can anyone give a quick review on the RTX 4 wedges??



How is the feel? Flight? Spin?



I play mostly neutral grinds in the Vokey (S) but played the M in the 60 - Should I go mid grind in all the Clevelands??



I'm excited to mix it up and especially happy about the Stock Tour Issue S400 shafts!
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  • kgeorge78kgeorge78  7898Members Posts: 7,898
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    they look incredible. The Raw finish would be my choice.
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    I just got me a 50 raw please stand by Sunday
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  • 300_yard_drives300_yard_drives  1250Jr. Boomers Posts: 1,250
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    Best wedges I have ever used. They are amazing around the greens. Perfect shape, lots of spin, and great turf interaction. I am on my 2nd set of them and I am in love.
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  • cyr67cyr67  156Members Posts: 156
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    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.
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  • twgolf78twgolf78  186Members Posts: 186
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    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.




    I agree the 3s weren't great thats why I posted.
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  • rt_chargerrt_charger Ball Hitter  282Members Posts: 282
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    twgolf78 wrote:

    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.




    I agree the 3s weren't great thats why I posted.


    Odd thing is I love the 3's from the back - A traditional wedge blade. The 4s have that funky ridge behind the sole which I can't say I like; the only thing I don't like. Still getting them though, everything else is amazing.
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  • rt_chargerrt_charger Ball Hitter  282Members Posts: 282
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    rt_charger wrote:

    twgolf78 wrote:

    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.




    I agree the 3s weren't great thats why I posted.


    Odd thing is I love the 3's from the back - A traditional wedge blade. The 4s have that funky ridge behind the sole which I can't say I like; the only thing I don't like. Still getting them though, everything else is amazing.


    Actually talking about that ridge, I wonder if it was a mistake that eventually went to market. Picture this: a new wedge that looked identical (the back) to last year, one came out of the mill like that which Roger saw, hit, and liked. *shrug*
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  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2504ClubWRX Posts: 2,504
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    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.




    Also hated the RTX3. The 4 is a step up. Carry a 58 low-grind and it is fabulous for pitches around the green and works great on tight or fluffy lies. I usually avoid those low bounce wedges and stick to medium, but this one is just right for what I wanted. Definitely worth a try.
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  • lefty74pghlefty74pgh  1555Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,555
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    I have a mix of the RTX 4 50, CBX 54 and RTX 4 58 mid. Chipping is the worst part of my game. I tend to dig, so I wanted to try a few different wedges. I’m trying to figure out if I go all RTX 4 or CBX 48, 54 and RTX 58.



    I had three bunker shots and a lob shot my last round that were tap in’s with the RTX 58. Wet hard sand and the RTX 58 performed perfect.
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  • dre72dre72  510Members Posts: 510
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    First time I have gamed anything other than Vokey in years and all I can say is that they are amazing. Feel, spin, flight, turf interaction. I have 50, 56, 62 in raw. Great wedges
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  • twgolf78twgolf78  186Members Posts: 186
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    dre72 wrote:


    First time I have gamed anything other than Vokey in years and all I can say is that they are amazing. Feel, spin, flight, turf interaction. I have 50, 56, 62 in raw. Great wedges




    can you post a pic of the wedges after some use?
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  • Rpete33Rpete33  561Members Posts: 561
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    In for reviews, I’m going to pick up rtx4 raw for the upcoming year
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    Not sure exactly when I got them but I want to say November or December.



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  • Rpete33Rpete33  561Members Posts: 561
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    I think it’s great the offer a raw version with a tour s400 shaft under the price point of almost all other wedges, I do wish the had an option with 11-12 degrees of bounce
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  • psgolf23psgolf23  123Members Posts: 123
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    those look pretty nice in Raw!
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  • GodfatherGodfather  317Members Posts: 317
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    Can anyone compare the mid bounce 58 to the RTX2 and RTX3? I enjoyed the RTX2 around the greens, but I couldn’t seem to open up the RTX3 and hit high soft shots. Everything came out low chipping with the face open. Lots of spin, but no versatility to open it up. Wondering if the RTX4 mid bounce 58 would be better. I could go low bounce, but have never needed to in previous Cleveland, Titleist, or Callaway models.
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    Srixon H45 Kuro Kage Black 16*, 19* hybrids
    Bridgestone J15 CB DG Pro 4-PW
    Cleveland RTX3/4 50, 54, 58
    Rife Cayman
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  • Hot Rod 71Hot Rod 71 #TheWRX  8932ClubWRX, BST Volunteer Mods Posts: 8,932
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    I had a set of the black RTX3 for a short time. They looked great, but I never got along with them; too much offset, feel was a little weird, and couldn't get used to the sole grind in the lob wedge.



    I now have the RTX4 and really enjoy them. The shape is better, less offset, sole grind is better, spin is fantastic, and they feel great. Performance is great from any lie.
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  • np78np78  283Members Posts: 283
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    these look a little big to me.



    Is the 60 hard to flop or lay open because of the size?
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  • Breezy-3-Breezy-3-  385Members Posts: 385
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    np78 wrote:


    these look a little big to me.



    Is the 60 hard to flop or lay open because of the size?
    I have my M grind SM6 and RTX 4 58* wedges in my office and I often don’t know which one is in my hand until I look at the back because of the similarities in size and finish (raw)...I’d say compare them, in hand, to whichever wedge model is your current preference and see if the size difference is real or just a camera trick.
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  • MPSgolfsMPSgolfs  76Members Posts: 76
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    I switched over from RTX-3 about six weeks ago, to a set of RTX-4 (50, 54, 58). I love them. The RTX-3 were great for full shots, but I struggled around the green with them. That was the first time that had ever happened with a Cleveland wedge for me. The RTX-4 are a return to form, imo.
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  • GodfatherGodfather  317Members Posts: 317
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    MPSgolfs wrote:


    I switched over from RTX-3 about six weeks ago, to a set of RTX-4 (50, 54, 58). I love them. The RTX-3 were great for full shots, but I struggled around the green with them. That was the first time that had ever happened with a Cleveland wedge for me. The RTX-4 are a return to form, imo.


    What bounce is your 58? So you find it easier to open up around the green?
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    Srixon H45 Kuro Kage Black 16*, 19* hybrids
    Bridgestone J15 CB DG Pro 4-PW
    Cleveland RTX3/4 50, 54, 58
    Rife Cayman
    Srixon Z-Star
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  • MPSgolfsMPSgolfs  76Members Posts: 76
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    Godfather wrote:

    MPSgolfs wrote:


    I switched over from RTX-3 about six weeks ago, to a set of RTX-4 (50, 54, 58). I love them. The RTX-3 were great for full shots, but I struggled around the green with them. That was the first time that had ever happened with a Cleveland wedge for me. The RTX-4 are a return to form, imo.


    What bounce is your 58? So you find it easier to open up around the green?




    I have 50 mid, 54 mid, 58 low



    It's been so wet and soft this winter that I've hardly needed many ultra lofted shots. That being said, in limited use, it's definitely performing better on such shots than my 60 degree mid bounce RTX 3.



    In general, they are smaller, with less offset, and feel less clicky. Around the green, my confidence has soared. With the RTX 3, I felt like I hit chips thin and spinny or fat and chunked.



    I fully recommend the RTX 4.
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  • gripandripgripandrip  1114Members Posts: 1,114
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    Always been a Cleveland wedge guy, and changed over the the RTX4 when they came out. I can't say enough positive about them. I play the 50-54-58 all in mid bounce, as I play a variety of conditions. The mid bounce on the the 58 is very easy to open up for the "flop" type shots. I probably only use the 50 for full swing shots. Very easy to flight to whatever you want and the spin is great. I play the black wedges with the S400 shaft. I liked the RTX3's, but these are even better for feel and touch.
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  • coreyhawleycoreyhawley  7Members Posts: 7
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    Much better head shape than years past, softer feel off the face. I’ve had them in the bag since they’ve came out and I have no complaints.
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  • adkleeadklee  81Members Posts: 81
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    twgolf78 wrote:


    Hello Im looking for Some Long Term Cleveland RTX 4 Reviews



    I played and loved Cleveland wedges back in the day - the 15s or something like that. I really liked them.



    I moved to Vokeys the last 6 or 7 years and my wedge game as sucked . It's not the clubs but I want a change.



    Can anyone give a quick review on the RTX 4 wedges??



    How is the feel? Flight? Spin?



    I play mostly neutral grinds in the Vokey (S) but played the M in the 60 - Should I go mid grind in all the Clevelands??



    I'm excited to mix it up and especially happy about the Stock Tour Issue S400 shafts!




    I've had mine since they were released last year. 60/low, 56/mid, 52/mid. Silver finish. Overall: Great wedges and I'd buy them again in a heartbeat.



    To answer your questions: Feel: excellent for a non-forged club. Actually, if you told me it was forged then I'd probably believe you. Flight/Spin: You can work these high/low and get them to spin or release--very versatile. The S400's feel like a really good shaft for this head--not too stiff, not too whippy and doesn't really balloon. The mid grind is great and you can hit just about any shot with it--open flops or closed runners. I'd recommend it if you're not sure if you want the low or not. For me, the low is nice for hitting open faced shots but they tend to dig on me a little in softer conditions. But very very nice off slightly firmer conditions.



    If you're looking to shake up your bag, then give the RTXs a go. There's really nothing to dislike about them and they're a little cheaper than most of the other wedges out there.
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  • vmanvman  1295Members Posts: 1,295
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    Tried them in raw and, although I really like them visually, they felt clicky when chipping.
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  • Russ757Russ757  7662Members Posts: 7,662
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    twgolf78 wrote:

    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4’s compare to the RTX 3’s? I hated the 3’s...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I’m a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3’s were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3’s? Hoping it’s night and day.




    I agree the 3s weren't great thats why I posted.




    Been a Cleveland srixon fan boy since day 1... Rtx 3s were the shortest honeymoon





    The 4s.. So so good
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  • YepyukonYepyukon Hinge + Hold  4130Members Posts: 4,130
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    rt_charger wrote:

    rt_charger wrote:

    twgolf78 wrote:

    cyr67 wrote:


    How do the 4's compare to the RTX 3's? I hated the 3's...hard, clicky feel, odd look from address. I'm a Cleveland fan, and bag all Srixon, but the 3's were poor IMO. How would you compare to the 3's? Hoping it's night and day.




    I agree the 3s weren't great thats why I posted.


    Odd thing is I love the 3's from the back - A traditional wedge blade. The 4s have that funky ridge behind the sole which I can't say I like; the only thing I don't like. Still getting them though, everything else is amazing.


    Actually talking about that ridge, I wonder if it was a mistake that eventually went to market. Picture this: a new wedge that looked identical (the back) to last year, one came out of the mill like that which Roger saw, hit, and liked. *shrug*




    If you are talking about Roger Cleveland, than I doubt he has swung these since he moved to Callaway several years ago.



    I have gamed them since they were released and they are the best wedges from Cleveland that I have played in a long while.
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    I have rtx3 cb 50, rtx4 raw 54, rtx4 satin 58. All in plastic for when I’m ready ;-)
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    When I first started to get interested in golf back in the 90’s, a friend gave me a Cleveland 53* Diadic wedge with a black finish. I fell in love with that wedge, and swear it had some magical powers that I’ve never experienced in another wedge since. It’s long gone unfortunately, but after using a set of 54 and 60 Wedgeworks raw Vokeys for the last few years, I decided (for no really good reason other than I was itching to try something different and liked the looks of them) to try the RTX 4’s. I got a 54 & 60, both mid bounce in the tour satin finish. For some reason I just haven’t been able to make a successful transition from the Vokeys to these. I’m admittedly not the best wedge player (11 index), but I just couldn’t gain any confidence with these and the turf interaction felt really different to me, for some reason. I really wanted to like them, but couldn’t get them to work for me and eventually decided to move on. I’m an i210 iron player, so I’m going to give the Glide 2.0 Stealths a try, and if those don’t work I’ll put the Vokeys back in the bag.
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