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My local PGASS in Southlake has the mizuno heads. They are out there.

 

I'm in Southlake too, will check it out.

 

I don't know if the ST 190 heads are there yet...I was more commenting on someone's post above that no one ever has Mizuno heads to demo. I've always found my local PGASS to have the full line of Mizuno heads to demo. Whether they have the ST 190 heads yet, I don't know.

 

Make that three of us that go to the Southlake store, and yes they have them. :nyam: They did say they will not have the 190s until mid Feb. :blush2:

 

4 of us. ?

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For those asking about the shaft options, here is the complete list of "no-charge" shaft/weight/and flex options. Just put an order in with Discount Dans for a ST190 9.5* with Atmos Black Tour Spec 60X. Their price cant be touched on these!

 

 

 

 

No atmos black 70 in x stiff?

 

I was shocked with this as well

Driver: TaylorMade SIM MAX (10.5 degrees - set to 9.75 and 1.5 degrees open)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM (15 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 Black 70 TX (at 43" and tipped 1")

UDI: *** Under Construction ***

Irons: TaylorMade P-7MC 4-PW (1 degree upright)

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack (Raw) 52.10, 56.12 & 60.12

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Wedge 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant (at 34")

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Yeah x-flex shaft selection is kind of disappointing. Would also like to pick up the ST190TS 3 wood with an Atmos blue 70x or 80x but I guess that's not an option.

Driver:  Cobra Darkspeed LS 9* Tour 2.0 Black 65X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 14* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Fairway:  Ping G430 Max 19.5* Tour 2.0 Black 75X

Irons:  PXG 0317 CB 5-GW KBS Tour 130X

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 54S Modus 125W

Wedge: Ping Glide 4.0 58S Modus 125W

Putter: LAB Link.1

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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How good is the KK 80X that they’re offering?

Driver: TaylorMade SIM MAX (10.5 degrees - set to 9.75 and 1.5 degrees open)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM (15 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 Black 70 TX (at 43" and tipped 1")

UDI: *** Under Construction ***

Irons: TaylorMade P-7MC 4-PW (1 degree upright)

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack (Raw) 52.10, 56.12 & 60.12

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Wedge 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant (at 34")

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Is there a list of upcharge shafts out there?

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[b]Spoon[/b] [/size][size=1]Cobra King LTD 13.5* UST Mamiya Chrome Elements S[/size]
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[b]GW[/b] Titleist SM6 52* K-grind
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How good is the KK 80X that they’re offering?

 

It’s a decent shaft, buy if you’re comparing to ultra premium shafts it doesn’t hang.

 

Thanks. I just can’t believe that they didn’t include the atmos black 7x when they have the atmos black 6x

Driver: TaylorMade SIM MAX (10.5 degrees - set to 9.75 and 1.5 degrees open)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM (15 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 Black 70 TX (at 43" and tipped 1")

UDI: *** Under Construction ***

Irons: TaylorMade P-7MC 4-PW (1 degree upright)

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack (Raw) 52.10, 56.12 & 60.12

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Wedge 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant (at 34")

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How good is the KK 80X that they’re offering?

 

It’s a decent shaft, buy if you’re comparing to ultra premium shafts it doesn’t hang.

 

Thanks. I just can’t believe that they didn’t include the atmos black 7x when they have the atmos black 6x

 

There’s an ST190G on eBay with an ATMOS Tour Spec 7x going for dirt cheap right now fwiw

 

 

The 190G is going straight in my bag and I’m throwing my M6 out the damn window. Hit it yesterday and fell in love.

 

Never fallen in love with a driver so quickly before. Absolute love at first hit.

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How good is the KK 80X that theyre offering?

 

Its a decent shaft, buy if youre comparing to ultra premium shafts it doesnt hang.

 

Thanks. I just cant believe that they didnt include the atmos black 7x when they have the atmos black 6x

 

Theres an ST190G on eBay with an ATMOS Tour Spec 7x going for dirt cheap right now fwiw

 

 

The 190G is going straight in my bag and Im throwing my M6 out the damn window. Hit it yesterday and fell in love.

 

Never fallen in love with a driver so quickly before. Absolute love at first hit.

 

I felt the exact same way when I hit the 190 with the atmos black 6x. They didn’t have a G to try, but the reg 190 is probably going in the bag. I’ve been a lifetime TM guy and I was looking at gaming the M6 this year but that changed after the first swing with the 190

Driver: TaylorMade SIM MAX (10.5 degrees - set to 9.75 and 1.5 degrees open)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM (15 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 Black 70 TX (at 43" and tipped 1")

UDI: *** Under Construction ***

Irons: TaylorMade P-7MC 4-PW (1 degree upright)

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack (Raw) 52.10, 56.12 & 60.12

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Wedge 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant (at 34")

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I asked for mine to be D4, it arrived D5. Head is 195.6g without the adapter.

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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I like hearing the head is heavy, and somehow Keith Mitchell and I have almost identical trackman numbers? I'm really excited to try this one out.

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Just got back from Roger Dunn, sure I was leaving with the ST190. I hit it with the Atmos blue 6s, felt great, just spun a little high for my liking, in the 2700 area. So I swapped that out for the Atmos black 6s TS... brought the spin down around 24-2500, but any miss away from the center and it spun up in the mid 3000s. So I decided to try the G with the black 6s, weights back and it was noticeably better, 22-2400 spin and ball speeds around 155, which for me is great. I actually preferred the sound and look of the G as well, so I took the demo setup they had for $429, which seemed fair to me since I had store credit to burn. Both drivers look great and it's nice to see some heads that aren't super low spinning and unplayable for most people. Tried the F9 but couldn't get ball speeds anywhere near what I was seeing with the ST190G. Will see how it does outside this week.

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Ping G430 LST 15* HZRDUS smoke yellow 70s

Ping G430 19* Tour Chrome 2.0 85s

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Scotty Cameron NP2 Studio Stainless  34"

 

 

 

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There are a bunch of ST190 drivers on Ebay that are brand new and going for around $300 right now. I am shocked how cheap these are being sold this early in release.

 

I noticed that, and If I hadn't had store credit I might have pulled the trigger but I am glad that I got to see which one suit me better because I would have made the wrong choice.

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Ping G430 LST 15* HZRDUS smoke yellow 70s

Ping G430 19* Tour Chrome 2.0 85s

PXG 0211  4i KBS C Taper Lite 115x ss1x

Srixon zx7 mkii 5-7, Z forged ii 8-P KBS C Taper Lite 

Ping s159 50/12s, 54/10h, 58/8b  KBS Tour
Scotty Cameron NP2 Studio Stainless  34"

 

 

 

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There are a bunch of ST190 drivers on Ebay that are brand new and going for around $300 right now. I am shocked how cheap these are being sold this early in release.

 

I noticed that, and If I hadn't had store credit I might have pulled the trigger but I am glad that I got to see which one suit me better because I would have made the wrong choice.

I am getting fit by a Mizuno regional rep this Wednesday. No charge for fitting and I will get to see which loft, shaft, model is right for me. Worth spending full price when you get a properly fit driver.

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There are a bunch of ST190 drivers on Ebay that are brand new and going for around $300 right now. I am shocked how cheap these are being sold this early in release.

 

I noticed that, and If I hadn't had store credit I might have pulled the trigger but I am glad that I got to see which one suit me better because I would have made the wrong choice.

I am getting fit by a Mizuno regional rep this Wednesday. No charge for fitting and I will get to see which loft, shaft, model is right for me. Worth spending full price when you get a properly fit driver.

 

Would love to hear how this goes once you're set. Let us know!

Ping G430 10k 9*  Ventus Velocore blue 6x

Ping G430 LST 15* HZRDUS smoke yellow 70s

Ping G430 19* Tour Chrome 2.0 85s

PXG 0211  4i KBS C Taper Lite 115x ss1x

Srixon zx7 mkii 5-7, Z forged ii 8-P KBS C Taper Lite 

Ping s159 50/12s, 54/10h, 58/8b  KBS Tour
Scotty Cameron NP2 Studio Stainless  34"

 

 

 

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I like hearing the head is heavy, and somehow Keith Mitchell and I have almost identical trackman numbers? I'm really excited to try this one out.

 

LOL come on bruh! ??? Just because you switched the club at the top to both say 7 iron is about all you have in common #humblebrag

 

 

Uhhhh I wasnt trying to remotely humble brag, I'm saying I swing at that speed with a left to right ballflight and I hit down on it a little, I'm not perfectly optimized and he says right in that video he's like that too to keep it accurate.

 

I was trying to say if he swings it like that and has gotten it to work really well I'm very excited to try it, I saw other places it was spinning too much but he's got it going really well and that's good to see. This seems like the sleeper hit of this year.

 

But thanks for thinking I'm here to brag to the internet how I swing the golf club, just trying to get information from a usually great community...

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Taylormade TPMC 2011 3-4 X100

Titleist 716MB 5-PW X100

Ping Glide 3.0 50, 55, 60 SS X100 50-55, S400 60

Odyssey White Hot Pro Rossie 36" CB

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Driver didn't do anything for me yet (haven't hit it with the right shaft) but I did order the 3wd after a fitting. Longer and straighter the the 410 stuff, and I was pulling for the 410 to win out. I have the st190 ts coming with a Tensei blue 70X. Should have it in the bag this week!

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I like hearing the head is heavy, and somehow Keith Mitchell and I have almost identical trackman numbers? I'm really excited to try this one out.

 

LOL come on bruh! ??? Just because you switched the club at the top to both say 7 iron is about all you have in common #humblebrag

 

 

Uhhhh I wasnt trying to remotely humble brag, I'm saying I swing at that speed with a left to right ballflight and I hit down on it a little, I'm not perfectly optimized and he says right in that video he's like that too to keep it accurate.

 

I was trying to say if he swings it like that and has gotten it to work really well I'm very excited to try it, I saw other places it was spinning too much but he's got it going really well and that's good to see. This seems like the sleeper hit of this year.

 

But thanks for thinking I'm here to brag to the internet how I swing the golf club, just trying to get information from a usually great community...

 

Don’t read too much into the tea leaves my friend, I’m just pulling your chain. The driver is phenomenal btw as well

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Like the look of it and the feel

 

Sits alittle closed to me at address though

 

Hit i with the Atmos Black 6s TS. Little soft for me.

 

Would like to give it a go with the right shaft

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Like the look of it and the feel

 

Sits alittle closed to me at address though

 

Hit i with the Atmos Black 6s TS. Little soft for me.

 

Would like to give it a go with the right shaft

 

You know, you're a hard man to please. LOL. I gotta order my stuff close to what I need. ;-)

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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Like the look of it and the feel

 

Sits alittle closed to me at address though

 

Hit i with the Atmos Black 6s TS. Little soft for me.

 

Would like to give it a go with the right shaft

 

You are the first person I've heard say it looks closed. I think it sits pretty neutral to slightly open standard, and looks perfect in the -2 setting opened up.

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Like the look of it and the feel

 

Sits alittle closed to me at address though

 

Hit i with the Atmos Black 6s TS. Little soft for me.

 

Would like to give it a go with the right shaft

 

You are the first person I've heard say it looks closed. I think it sits pretty neutral to slightly open standard, and looks perfect in the -2 setting opened up.

 

Kale is correct. This particular head does look closed in it's natural 9.5º setting.

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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Like the look of it and the feel

 

Sits alittle closed to me at address though

 

Hit i with the Atmos Black 6s TS. Little soft for me.

 

Would like to give it a go with the right shaft

 

You are the first person I've heard say it looks closed. I think it sits pretty neutral to slightly open standard, and looks perfect in the -2 setting opened up.

 

Kale is correct. This particular head does look closed in it's natural 9.5º setting.

 

To my eye after 40-50 balls in my fitting, the head appears to be dead square at standard 9.5* setting, and at 10.5* setting its was a nice open look.

 

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