Aldila Rogue 130MSI Lineup. White, Black and Silver.

TollBros · Mar 7, 2019 2:26pm

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

QuigleyDU · Mar 7, 2019 3:12pm

TollBros wrote:

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

ok, so they are totally different then?

Go_Time · Mar 7, 2019 9:00pm

TollBros wrote:

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

What tipping did each tester use?

TollBros · Mar 8, 2019 3:17pm

Go_Time wrote:

TollBros wrote:

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

What tipping did each tester use?

We don't give that info out. That's the stuff we used to fit our customers with. If you would like to go through a consultation, just shoot me a DM and we can get to work.

therealjonzone · Mar 8, 2019 4:42pm

TollBros wrote:

Go_Time wrote:

TollBros wrote:

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

What tipping did each tester use?

We don't give that info out. That's the stuff we used to fit our customers with. If you would like to go through a consultation, just shoot me a DM and we can get to work.

Based on your consultative approach TB, I think that sharing the tipping is irrelevant other than general information. As you’ve stated it’s all swing dependent not tipping dependent.

TollBros · Mar 8, 2019 4:55pm

therealjonzone wrote:

TollBros wrote:

Go_Time wrote:

TollBros wrote:

QuigleyDU wrote:

i was just looking up the rogue shaft to try and gain greater understanding. what is the difference between the 130 and the 110?

Quality of materials, volume of those materials in the profile, and the affect that has on the performance and the way the shaft feels as well. Think Nissan Altima vs Nissan GTR.

What tipping did each tester use?

We don't give that info out. That's the stuff we used to fit our customers with. If you would like to go through a consultation, just shoot me a DM and we can get to work.

Based on your consultative approach TB, I think that sharing the tipping is irrelevant other than general information. As you’ve stated it’s all swing dependent not tipping dependent.

People take that information and use it to attempt to fit themselves. That's not really something we want to contribute to if we don't have to. Many of these products are very sensitive to tipping and it changes the feel and swing Dynamic. Encouraging them to make those determinations on their own is not what we are looking to do. Our primary objective is to provide product to customers for whom it fits, and who we can set up properly. Obviously we are using company resources to provide review and data information for this website. I cannot think of any reason that someone who is going to buy the shaft from us would ask a general question on tipping. So I'm not sure why we would give that information up to assist someone in purchasing elsewhere and fitting themselves. It doesn't make any economic sense for us to do so.

therealjonzone · Mar 8, 2019 5:06pm

TB - don’t disagree with what you’ve stated, but you also can’t capture the entire market either. I would think that you actually might make more sales if you offered lower prices for people purchasing blind vs the premium on fitting. Love what you do and provide - I want the white blindly though LOL

Rosco1216 · Mar 8, 2019 5:20pm

60tx White en route! This is my first ever driver shaft that’s been sub 72g raw. I’m usually in the mid 70’s when cut to playing length. This thing is such low spin and stable I think I’ll be able to tip it a touch more and add a little weight to the head. Confident I can pick up a couple mph and not give up any control.

getgolfed · Mar 8, 2019 5:57pm

Rosco1216 wrote:

60tx White en route! This is my first ever driver shaft that's been sub 72g raw. I'm usually in the mid 70's when cut to playing length. This thing is such low spin and stable I think I'll be able to tip it a touch more and add a little weight to the head. Confident I can pick up a couple mph and not give up any control.

Sounds awesome! Let us know how it works out.

Rosco1216 · Mar 11, 2019 12:55pm

JT and GGE guys got it here QUICK. Just set the adapter and waiting for the epoxy to cure.

J13 · Mar 11, 2019 1:22pm

getgolfed wrote:

I have a brand new uncut Silver 130 and now I want a White instead. Ahhhhhh

Honestly, it depends on your swing. I have a Silver 130msi and it's OUTSTANDING especially for dispersion control. Get fit or in your case hit the Silver 130 as it might be a much better profile for you than the white. I've hit the Rogue White and Silver and the Silver gave me better numbers and tighter dispersion. Everyone swing is different.

radiman · Mar 11, 2019 1:35pm

J13 wrote:

getgolfed wrote:

I have a brand new uncut Silver 130 and now I want a White instead. Ahhhhhh

Honestly, it depends on your swing. I have a Silver 130msi and it's OUTSTANDING especially for dispersion control. Get fit or in your case hit the Silver 130 as it might be a much better profile for you than the white. I've hit the Rogue White and Silver and the Silver gave me better numbers and tighter dispersion. Everyone swing is different.

would love to hear your thoughts between the two if you're so inclined.

J13 · Mar 11, 2019 8:52pm

radiman wrote:

J13 wrote:

getgolfed wrote:

I have a brand new uncut Silver 130 and now I want a White instead. Ahhhhhh

Honestly, it depends on your swing. I have a Silver 130msi and it's OUTSTANDING especially for dispersion control. Get fit or in your case hit the Silver 130 as it might be a much better profile for you than the white. I've hit the Rogue White and Silver and the Silver gave me better numbers and tighter dispersion. Everyone swing is different.

would love to hear your thoughts between the two if you're so inclined.

Spin was a little lower with the White (about 200-250rpms) and it felt more active. Not Tensei Pro white active but more than the Silver. Silver launched around 2* higher so I got better carry distances over the White (which i like and prefer). White was longer in total distance because of some extra roll but dispersion was much better for me with the Silver (probably due to slightly higher spin and launch). White was getting me sub 2000 vs Silver 2100-2200rpms (center strikes).

All depends on your swing and what profile fits you. If you are interested I would reach out to Toll and have him run you through his process to determine which is best. Might be White but he also might tell you Silver or Black.

radiman · Mar 11, 2019 10:27pm

J13 wrote:

radiman wrote:

J13 wrote:

getgolfed wrote:

I have a brand new uncut Silver 130 and now I want a White instead. Ahhhhhh

Honestly, it depends on your swing. I have a Silver 130msi and it's OUTSTANDING especially for dispersion control. Get fit or in your case hit the Silver 130 as it might be a much better profile for you than the white. I've hit the Rogue White and Silver and the Silver gave me better numbers and tighter dispersion. Everyone swing is different.

would love to hear your thoughts between the two if you're so inclined.

Spin was a little lower with the White (about 200-250rpms) and it felt more active. Not Tensei Pro white active but more than the Silver. Silver launched around 2* higher so I got better carry distances over the White (which i like and prefer). White was longer in total distance because of some extra roll but dispersion was much better for me with the Silver (probably due to slightly higher spin and launch). White was getting me sub 2000 vs Silver 2100-2200rpms (center strikes).

All depends on your swing and what profile fits you. If you are interested I would reach out to Toll and have him run you through his process to determine which is best. Might be White but he also might tell you Silver or Black.

I'm in the process of working it out with him now. I just like to hear what others experience as are. Helps in situations where trying before buying isn't an option.

TollBros · Mar 12, 2019 12:24am

J13 wrote:

radiman wrote:

J13 wrote:

getgolfed wrote:

I have a brand new uncut Silver 130 and now I want a White instead. Ahhhhhh

Honestly, it depends on your swing. I have a Silver 130msi and it's OUTSTANDING especially for dispersion control. Get fit or in your case hit the Silver 130 as it might be a much better profile for you than the white. I've hit the Rogue White and Silver and the Silver gave me better numbers and tighter dispersion. Everyone swing is different.

would love to hear your thoughts between the two if you're so inclined.

Spin was a little lower with the White (about 200-250rpms) and it felt more active. Not Tensei Pro white active but more than the Silver. Silver launched around 2* higher so I got better carry distances over the White (which i like and prefer). White was longer in total distance because of some extra roll but dispersion was much better for me with the Silver (probably due to slightly higher spin and launch). White was getting me sub 2000 vs Silver 2100-2200rpms (center strikes).

All depends on your swing and what profile fits you. If you are interested I would reach out to Toll and have him run you through his process to determine which is best. Might be White but he also might tell you Silver or Black.

Spot on. We have had several very long hitters who prefer that tighter feel of the Silver 130 over the white. Both are awesome shafts, just different feels. I do find it comforting that players unaffiliated with us are getting the same types of results. The silver is supposed to be the tighter lower spin model, but the White launches lower and spins less for the vast majority of testers, and I see did the same for you as well.

J13 · Mar 12, 2019 10:40am

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

Rosco1216 · Mar 12, 2019 11:06am

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

J13 · Mar 12, 2019 11:46am

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

haha of course you will

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Rosco1216 · Mar 12, 2019 12:04pm

Interesting finding..the white has a lower balance point than my diamana DF. Same length and grip(including tape) is less than 2g difference.

TollBros · Mar 12, 2019 1:20pm

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

Rosco1216 · Mar 12, 2019 1:36pm

TollBros wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

It’s ok, I’ll just get lessons from the local PGA pro to fix my obvious swing faults that’s causing me to hit it high. 🤷🏻‍♂️

TollBros · Mar 12, 2019 2:56pm

Rosco1216 wrote:

TollBros wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

It’s ok, I’ll just get lessons from the local PGA pro to fix my obvious swing faults that’s causing me to hit it high. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes I'd worry too if I was only getting measly 195 mph ball speeds and hitting 130+. You're in a gear I don't have. Haha

radiman · Mar 14, 2019 4:01pm

Thanks to TollBro's help, I have a Rogue White 130 60TX incoming. He was a great help in making the decision. If anyone is on the fence, get in touch with him, it'll make the decision a lot easier. No pressure to buy anything. He even stated that my current combo was a pretty good fit and it would be hard to improve on. Opted to go for a little more feel hence the new shaft incoming.

J13 · Mar 14, 2019 4:21pm

Rosco1216 wrote:

TollBros wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

It's ok, I'll just get lessons from the local PGA pro to fix my obvious swing faults that's causing me to hit it high. &#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57339;‍♂️

You hit it high because you need a 3000cpm shafts haha

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radiman · Mar 14, 2019 4:30pm

J13 wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

TollBros wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

I may have to pick up a silver as well.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

It's ok, I'll just get lessons from the local PGA pro to fix my obvious swing faults that's causing me to hit it high. ��‍♂️

You hit it high because you need a 3000cpm shafts haha /taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />

Found the next big thing for Rosco. This should get his ball flight down.

Rosco1216 · Mar 14, 2019 10:10pm

J13 wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

TollBros wrote:

Rosco1216 wrote:

J13 wrote:

Yeah, the Silver has been great so far and can't recommend it enough for players with aggressive transitions. Spin was a smidge lower in the White mainly because it was delivering the club with a lower dynamic loft at impact. It was a few degrees lower in LA as well. White feels more active while Silver has a one piece, uniform feel.

Just what you need, to hit it higher. Haha.

It's ok, I'll just get lessons from the local PGA pro to fix my obvious swing faults that's causing me to hit it high. ��&zwj;♂️

You hit it high because you need a 3000cpm shafts haha /taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />

Found the next big thing for Rosco. This should get his ball flight down.

Need to up that gauge a little bit. I warm up with that.

Rosco1216 · Mar 15, 2019 2:07pm

I’ll tell you what..I got this club built up Monday night and haven’t been able to hit it yet. Getting stir crazy with the weather! The previous 4 days have been 30’s or pouring rain. But soon...60’s and sunny the next 10 days.

radiman · Mar 15, 2019 2:08pm

Rosco1216 wrote:

I'll tell you what..I got this club built up Monday night and haven't been able to hit it yet. Getting stir crazy with the weather! The previous 4 days have been 30's or pouring rain. But soon...

We have had similar. But, it's actually an improvement for us.

TollBros · Mar 21, 2019 5:50am

Rogue white 130 70tx will be back available on Friday. Supply is limited and half the order is pre-sold so get one now if you want one.

GL3 · Mar 23, 2019 10:41pm

Intrested

Aldila Rogue 130MSI Lineup. White, Black and Silver.

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