Should I Be Embarrassed?

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So I was fitted to a Callaway Rogue Draw driver recently. Really it was the choice of the F9 and the Rogue Draw. I ultimately went with Rogue because it gave me slightly better numbers and its cheaper. <br />
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My question is should it be embarrassing to admit that I need a draw driver? I have never had one and honestly I have always had the bias that if you get a Draw biased driver you are just hiding faults in your swing. And additionally if I were to correct those faults have I now made a bad purchase because I no longer produce the sidespin in my impact and now I'm hitting hooks?<br />
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Is that how most people feel? Am I just overthinking things? Do I really have to worry about hooks if my swing all of sudden works itself out over the course of the season?
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[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
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  • sdandreasdandrea Steve Members  2656WRX Points: 523Handicap: 11Posts: 2,656 Titanium Tees
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    Why care what anyone else thinks? Players should be judged by their scorecard, not their clubs. I play offset or draw biased drivers and game improvement or super game improvement irons. They help me play my best. Our club champion for about 6 years running was a low single digit handicapper with Callaway Big Bertha irons.
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  • Adam CAdam C Members  831WRX Points: 441Handicap: 4Posts: 831 Golden Tee
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    Unless you are planning on dedicating 40 hr/week to your swing, chances are your fade tendencies are not going to change. They may lessen, but will still be there. Buy clubs for the golfer you are now, not the golfer you might be somewhere in the future.
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  • 03trdblack03trdblack Wake Forest, NCClubWRX  2141WRX Points: 341Handicap: 1.5Posts: 2,141 ClubWRX
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    Look at some of the best players in the world, Tiger, Rory etc and you'll see they have their weight settings in a draw biased setting to help turn it over. Your draw driver is essentially the same thing.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13791WRX Points: 2,630Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,791 Titanium Tees
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    SUPER DUPER embarrased
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  • caniac6caniac6 Members  3450WRX Points: 1,096Handicap: 4Posts: 3,450 Titanium Tees
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    cardoustie wrote:
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    SUPER DUPER embarrased<br />
    And probably never show you face at the course!
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  • 1s1k1s1k A-Town, MAMembers  613WRX Points: 384Handicap: 5'ishPosts: 613 Golden Tee
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    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by
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  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9277WRX Points: 2,913Posts: 9,277 Titanium Tees
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    Might as well throw the ball retriever and iron covers in while you are at it.
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  • caniac6caniac6 Members  3450WRX Points: 1,096Handicap: 4Posts: 3,450 Titanium Tees
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    Don't ask. Don't tell.
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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members  4015WRX Points: 746Posts: 4,015 Titanium Tees
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    Nobody cares. Seriously, has anyone you’ve ever played with asked or gone through your bag checking your gear?
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  • lookylookitzadamlookylookitzadam SoCalMembers  630WRX Points: 232Handicap: 2.7Posts: 630 Golden Tee
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    No one cares what you play. Play whatever works for you and enjoy your game.
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  • backhillbackhill Members  119WRX Points: 76Posts: 119 Fairways
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    What everyone else has said. I couldn't even tell you what my playing partners who I play with weekly have in the bag.
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  • @_the_crook@_the_crook Members  868WRX Points: 332Posts: 868 Golden Tee
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    add a dot and it's a custom D-Raw
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    yes you should quit golf forever
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  • ppl4golfppl4golf OntarioMembers  1073WRX Points: 93Posts: 1,073 Platinum Tees
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    I don’t think his fundamental question - whether the club will eventually overcorrect things - is of no merit.<br />
    <br />
    However, the answer is absolutely it won’t make a **** difference after you fixed your fundamental flaw(s) leading to fade/slices (if there was any).<br />
    <br />
    This almost always hold true...the more sound the swing, the more you are able to handle anything (any flex, weight, color, price range, etc, etc) as long as specs are close to standard.
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members  545WRX Points: 50Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Soooo what you’re all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I’m at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I’m just going to play what works for me.<br />
    <br />
    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!
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    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
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  • whiteout73whiteout73 Members  1059WRX Points: 149Handicap: 3Posts: 1,059 Platinum Tees
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    Oh, **** no. I'm a low-single-digit cap, and I play a Ping G400 SFT, with a couple pieces of lead tape on the heal. I'm only 5'6", it's tough for me to turn over these modern big drivers.
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  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCMembers  3966WRX Points: 280Posts: 3,966 Titanium Tees
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  • Mikey5eMikey5e michMembers  1326WRX Points: 300Handicap: 15Posts: 1,326 Platinum Tees
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    I don't care wth others think, use the club/setting that works for you. For some reason my swing falls apart in the draw biased setting, so I never used it. Ideally, golfers should fashion their swing properly to the neutral setting, imo.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13791WRX Points: 2,630Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,791 Titanium Tees
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    Think of it this way. A lot of players set their clubs up to avoid the hook .. or "the lefts" so to speak.<br />
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    Toe weight, flat lies, lead tape (a gift from the heavens fwiw) etc etc<br />
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    It's no different that some pre-set for not going right<br />
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    1s1k wrote:
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    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    And don't touch my blades or give me advice when you walk the line at the range
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX  15176WRX Points: 1,235Posts: 15,176 ClubWRX
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    Yes, be embarrassed!&#55357;&#56832;<br />
    <br />
    Have a very sheepish look on your face as you accept your buddies money that you won because all of a sudden you’re playing second shots from much more favorable positions <br />
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    If it helps you shoot better scores, embrace it wholeheartedly with no shame at all!
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members  545WRX Points: 50Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Hey just noticed as well, the hosel is set to Draw as well, so that makes me feel a little better as if I’m missing I start going too far right I can dial it back to the neutral setting.<br />
    I don’t really care,I think I’m just letting my mind wander since I’m waiting for this club to come in. <br />
    I just think it’s funny, that before the fitting I was telling myself what I imagined I’d be fitted too and Callaway draw biased driver was not one of them. <br />
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    But you are all correct, I wouldn’t be thinking this at all if the club had a movable weight and the fitter moved the weight to the heel. This is no different and in fact I asked the fitter that would I see a difference between Rogue Draw and the new Flash. The fitter told me he wouldn’t have fitted me for a Flash because the draw bias on the flash is not as significant as the Rogue Draw.
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    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
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  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2392WRX Points: 485Posts: 2,392 Platinum Tees
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    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members  545WRX Points: 50Posts: 545 Bunkers
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    Kale_m wrote:
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    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is<br />
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    Can you explain what you mean?
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    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • JStangJStang Members  2868WRX Points: 381Handicap: 7.1Posts: 2,868 Titanium Tees
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    Having a "draw" driver is way less embarrassing than than having to yell "FORE" all day because you are in the wrong fairway.
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  • Krt22Krt22 East BayMembers  9277WRX Points: 2,913Posts: 9,277 Titanium Tees
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    <br />
    Soooo what you're all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I'm at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I'm just going to play what works for me.<br />
    <br />
    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    We had one guy in our group get fit into SR shafts and tried to convince us it stood for stiff-regular. He might be right, but we still razz him for it every time lol
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  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER Members  1034WRX Points: 142Posts: 1,034 Platinum Tees
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    you might be playing for the wrong reasons or with the wrong people if it matters at all.
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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers  13791WRX Points: 2,630Handicap: 0.9 >< 3.8Posts: 13,791 Titanium Tees
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    one of the "secrets" of golf is to only miss in one direction. Gospel Jack 72:1986<br />
    <br />
    If you can always aim down right rough line and never ever push it right (your miss is always left rough) then you are golden my friend
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    Ping G400 LST 11* Blueboard Matte 53x
    Ping G400 3w 13.5* Blueboard OG 63x
    Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard Ion 73x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* GD Tour AD DI 95x
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* GD Tour AD DI 105x
    Ping Blueprint 6 - PW UST Recoil 110
    Vokey SM2 50-54tvd-59tvd DG s400 onyx
    Callaway PM grind 64*
    Piretti Matera Elite torched

  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2392WRX Points: 485Posts: 2,392 Platinum Tees
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    <br />
    Kale_m wrote:
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    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is<br />
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    <br />
    Can you explain what you mean?<br />
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    What? You said it is embarrassing having a “draw driver” <br />
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    What I am saying is how would anyone know you had one unless you told them? 99% of golfers would not know a “draw” driver from any other driver.. who cares
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  • defender2803defender2803 Handicap...it's over 9000!! Members  248WRX Points: 67Handicap: 9001Posts: 248 Fairways
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    My Ping G10 has the big word DRAW written on it. Could care less what people think. I hit it well.<br />
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    R7 Draw driver...very popular. R7 draw irons...very popular.
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX  25408WRX Points: 2,564Handicap: 2 ManyPosts: 25,408 ClubWRX
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    Don't care what anyone thinks about the clubs in my bag, except of course Uncle Cardie.
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