Should I Be Embarrassed?

avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members Posts: 545 ✭✭
So I was fitted to a Callaway Rogue Draw driver recently. Really it was the choice of the F9 and the Rogue Draw. I ultimately went with Rogue because it gave me slightly better numbers and its cheaper.



My question is should it be embarrassing to admit that I need a draw driver? I have never had one and honestly I have always had the bias that if you get a Draw biased driver you are just hiding faults in your swing. And additionally if I were to correct those faults have I now made a bad purchase because I no longer produce the sidespin in my impact and now I'm hitting hooks?



Is that how most people feel? Am I just overthinking things? Do I really have to worry about hooks if my swing all of sudden works itself out over the course of the season?
[font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
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  • sdandreasdandrea Steve Members Posts: 2,352 ✭✭
    edited Mar 13, 2019 3:38pm #2
    Why care what anyone else thinks? Players should be judged by their scorecard, not their clubs. I play offset or draw biased drivers and game improvement or super game improvement irons. They help me play my best. Our club champion for about 6 years running was a low single digit handicapper with Callaway Big Bertha irons.
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  • Adam CAdam C Members Posts: 293 ✭✭
    Unless you are planning on dedicating 40 hr/week to your swing, chances are your fade tendencies are not going to change. They may lessen, but will still be there. Buy clubs for the golfer you are now, not the golfer you might be somewhere in the future.
  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,849 ClubWRX
    Look at some of the best players in the world, Tiger, Rory etc and you'll see they have their weight settings in a draw biased setting to help turn it over. Your draw driver is essentially the same thing.
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,854 ✭✭
    SUPER DUPER embarrased
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  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,710 ✭✭
    cardoustie wrote:


    SUPER DUPER embarrased
    And probably never show you face at the course!
  • 1s1k1s1k A-Town, MAMembers Posts: 471 ✭✭
    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by
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  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,504 ✭✭
    Might as well throw the ball retriever and iron covers in while you are at it.
  • caniac6caniac6 Members Posts: 2,710 ✭✭
    Don't ask. Don't tell.
  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members Posts: 3,281 ✭✭
    Nobody cares. Seriously, has anyone you’ve ever played with asked or gone through your bag checking your gear?
    “I think getting advice from guys who are sitting at the computer in their underwear while taking a break from **** is a very solid way to choose clubs.” - bluedot
  • lookylookitzadamlookylookitzadam Members Posts: 441 ✭✭
    No one cares what you play. Play whatever works for you and enjoy your game.
  • backhillbackhill Members Posts: 102 ✭✭
    What everyone else has said. I couldn't even tell you what my playing partners who I play with weekly have in the bag.
  • @_the_crook@_the_crook Members Posts: 652 ✭✭
    add a dot and it's a custom D-Raw
    currently playing:
    Steelhead III , FT-5 - D
    Warbirds, 3+, 4
    Hogan BH-5, 3-PW
    Wilson DynaPowered SW
    Ping Anser
    it works

    when I need a change, there are 12 bags full to choose from .
  • np78np78 Members Posts: 283
    yes you should quit golf forever
  • ppl4golfppl4golf OntarioMembers Posts: 1,067 ✭✭
    I don’t think his fundamental question - whether the club will eventually overcorrect things - is of no merit.



    However, the answer is absolutely it won’t make a **** difference after you fixed your fundamental flaw(s) leading to fade/slices (if there was any).



    This almost always hold true...the more sound the swing, the more you are able to handle anything (any flex, weight, color, price range, etc, etc) as long as specs are close to standard.
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members Posts: 545 ✭✭
    Soooo what you’re all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I’m at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I’m just going to play what works for me.



    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • whiteout73whiteout73 Members Posts: 1,022 ✭✭
    Oh, **** no. I'm a low-single-digit cap, and I play a Ping G400 SFT, with a couple pieces of lead tape on the heal. I'm only 5'6", it's tough for me to turn over these modern big drivers.
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  • augustgolfaugustgolf Golf with dignity Coastal NCMembers Posts: 3,898 ✭✭
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    Pings from the beginning

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  • Mikey5eMikey5e Members Posts: 728 ✭✭
    I don't care wth others think, use the club/setting that works for you. For some reason my swing falls apart in the draw biased setting, so I never used it. Ideally, golfers should fashion their swing properly to the neutral setting, imo.
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,854 ✭✭
    edited Mar 14, 2019 12:52pm #20
    Think of it this way. A lot of players set their clubs up to avoid the hook .. or "the lefts" so to speak.



    Toe weight, flat lies, lead tape (a gift from the heavens fwiw) etc etc



    It's no different that some pre-set for not going right


    1s1k wrote:


    If you see me at the course please just keep walking by




    And don't touch my blades or give me advice when you walk the line at the range
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  • deadsolid...shankdeadsolid...shank ClubWRX Posts: 14,671 ClubWRX
    Yes, be embarrassed!��



    Have a very sheepish look on your face as you accept your buddies money that you won because all of a sudden you’re playing second shots from much more favorable positions



    If it helps you shoot better scores, embrace it wholeheartedly with no shame at all!
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members Posts: 545 ✭✭
    Hey just noticed as well, the hosel is set to Draw as well, so that makes me feel a little better as if I’m missing I start going too far right I can dial it back to the neutral setting.

    I don’t really care,I think I’m just letting my mind wander since I’m waiting for this club to come in.

    I just think it’s funny, that before the fitting I was telling myself what I imagined I’d be fitted too and Callaway draw biased driver was not one of them.



    But you are all correct, I wouldn’t be thinking this at all if the club had a movable weight and the fitter moved the weight to the heel. This is no different and in fact I asked the fitter that would I see a difference between Rogue Draw and the new Flash. The fitter told me he wouldn’t have fitted me for a Flash because the draw bias on the flash is not as significant as the Rogue Draw.
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,780 ✭✭
    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is
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  • avidshotmakeravidshotmaker Members Posts: 545 ✭✭
    Kale_m wrote:


    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is




    Can you explain what you mean?
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway Rogue Draw 9*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway XR'16 15*[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Taylormade Burner Steel Rescue 19*, 22* degrees[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Callaway X-Forged 5-PW[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Titleist SM6 50.08F, 54.10S, 58.10S[/font]
    [font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Select [/font]
  • JStangJStang Members Posts: 2,405 ✭✭
    Having a "draw" driver is way less embarrassing than than having to yell "FORE" all day because you are in the wrong fairway.
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  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,504 ✭✭


    Soooo what you're all saying is I might as well put the senior shaft in now and buy myself a Niblick while I'm at it. I get it, im being insecure for no reason. I'm just going to play what works for me.



    *Apologies if I offended any senior flex using, Niblick playing golfers. No offense was meant!




    We had one guy in our group get fit into SR shafts and tried to convince us it stood for stiff-regular. He might be right, but we still razz him for it every time lol
  • CAT GOLFERCAT GOLFER Members Posts: 924 ✭✭
    you might be playing for the wrong reasons or with the wrong people if it matters at all.
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,854 ✭✭
    one of the "secrets" of golf is to only miss in one direction. Gospel Jack 72:1986



    If you can always aim down right rough line and never ever push it right (your miss is always left rough) then you are golden my friend
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    Vokey sm2 50* 54* 59* 64* DG s400 Onyx
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  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,780 ✭✭

    Kale_m wrote:


    99% of golfers don’t know what a draw driver is




    Can you explain what you mean?




    What? You said it is embarrassing having a “draw driver”



    What I am saying is how would anyone know you had one unless you told them? 99% of golfers would not know a “draw” driver from any other driver.. who cares
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  • defender2803defender2803 Handicap...it's over 9000!! Members Posts: 240 ClubWRX
    My Ping G10 has the big word DRAW written on it. Could care less what people think. I hit it well.



    R7 Draw driver...very popular. R7 draw irons...very popular.
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  • DavePelz4DavePelz4 A golf course in the Chicago area.ClubWRX Posts: 24,339 ClubWRX
    Don't care what anyone thinks about the clubs in my bag, except of course Uncle Cardie.
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