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Good day to you all. I am looking to get some driver shaft recommendations. What i am looking for are some mid launch shafts that have a smoother feel. I tend to hit the ball pretty low, so i am not looking for the ultra low launch shaft. Mid launch, low spin ( yes I know it really doesn't exist) would be awesome. I have plenty of speed so that is not an issue (see pic). I also do tend to hit a hook so I am looking for some stability for sure.

 

i have been playing around with a tensei, av blue 75 x flex shaft in a driver and it seem to be working pretty well. I have always liked the feel of the hazrdus yellow shaft but i dont get my best numbers with that shaft.

 

Also, i am not super concerned with price, so whatever you got let me know. thanks.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Tour AD TP maybe? It'll be at or near the top of the list at my next driver fitting.

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TaylorMade M5 (10.5) Graphite Design Tour AD GP 6 S

Callaway Rogue ST MAX (15) Graphite Design Tour AD F-75 S

Ping G425 (19) Mitsubishi TENSEI CK Pro Orange Hybrid 80 S

Mizuno MP-53 (4-PW, 22-46) Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 S

Titleist Vokey SM9 (50.12 F, 54.10 S @ 55, 60.10 S) Nippon Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 S

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(unless you have already done so) If you are not concerned with price...then get fitted so that you know for sure what characteristics you require in a shaft. Otherwise, you are simply guessing and maybe wasting your money. Hitting your current shaft vs a host of potential new ones will instantly let you see results of which are better/worse for you. Some need a High bend point, some low. Some need tip stiffness, some don't. Some brands Stiff are more like Regular...etc.

 

Get fit - get evidence - decide, no more guess work

 

Just my 2 cents.

Driver (9.0) - Cobra LTDx Aldila Rogue Silver 70 S, 44.5"
Wood (14.5) - Ping G425 MAX Alta CB 65 Slate S

Wood (17.5) - Ping G425 MAX Alta CB 65 Slate S
Driving Iron (20) - Srixon U65 Project X 5.5
Irons (5-6) - Srixon Z565 Project X 5.5
Irons (7-P) - Srixon Z765 Project X 5.5
Wedges - Vokey SM-7 Jet Black / 50.08 F / 54.08 M / 58.08 M DG S300
Putter - Edel E-1
Ball - Titleist Prov1x
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Tour AD TP maybe? It'll be at or near the top of the list at my next driver fitting.

 

that is on my list as well. That and the IZ. problem is finding one to try.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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(unless you have already done so) If you are not concerned with price...then get fitted so that you know for sure what characteristics you require in a shaft. Otherwise, you are simply guessing and maybe wasting your money. Hitting your current shaft vs a host of potential new ones will instantly let you see results of which are better/worse for you. Some need a High bend point, some low. Some need tip stiffness, some don't. Some brands Stiff are more like Regular...etc.

 

Get fit - get evidence - decide, no more guess work

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

I have tried fittings, the issue is availability. it is very hard to find shafts in X flex to begin with to try. IF they have them it is not usually a shaft that fits me. Also, i work at a golf store part time so I can try everything that we have available. Just trying to see what else is out there.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Raijin 74X in addition to any of the recent Accra stuff. Best combo I've ever hit that is smooth feeling but doesn't spin very much. Of course you know that strike plays a massive factor but all things equal, I find VA Comp/Accra to offer some of the best feeling shafts that retain the stability while keeping spin in a reasonable window.

 

 

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Raijin 74X in addition to any of the recent Accra stuff. Best combo I've ever hit that is smooth feeling but doesn't spin very much. Of course you know that strike plays a massive factor but all things equal, I find VA Comp/Accra to offer some of the best feeling shafts that retain the stability while keeping spin in a reasonable window.

 

Thanks, i am also looking at the OBAN white.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Raijin 74X in addition to any of the recent Accra stuff. Best combo I've ever hit that is smooth feeling but doesn't spin very much. Of course you know that strike plays a massive factor but all things equal, I find VA Comp/Accra to offer some of the best feeling shafts that retain the stability while keeping spin in a reasonable window.

 

Thanks, i am also looking at the OBAN white.

 

This is what I use now. It's not the same profile as the Raijin but it is similar to Accra Tour Z Xtreme 4x5. Stiff tip and middle, softer butt, smoothie feel. It's a solid choice and I may replace my Kai'li with it in the coming weeks to try and get my spin down just a little bit.

 

 

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Reed of to a.... bumpy start.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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There's no shortage of options. Even Flow Blue 6.5; Diamana BF in TX; Tensei AV Blue in TX; Aldila Copperhead TX; ATTAS Cool. Any of them would be the mid flight you're looking for with good responsive feel.

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4 - 718 Titleist AP3 Project X 6.0
4-P 718 Titleist AP2 Project X 6.0
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There's no shortage of options. Even Flow Blue 6.5; Diamana BF in TX; Tensei AV Blue in TX; Aldila Copperhead TX; ATTAS Cool. Any of them would be the mid flight you're looking for with good responsive feel.

 

thanks, thats the problem!! there are too many options!! haha. i have even thought about going back to the shaft that i got along with best. The GD YS7. The even re-released and updated it.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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I'm a low-ish ball driver and have fallen in love with my GD AD IZ. Might be too high launch for what you're looking for but I have gotten outstanding results from it. Feels pretty darn stable especially in 6-7-8 weight ranges.

Callaway Paradym 12* (-1Std) Autoflex SF505X

Callaway Paradym Heavenwood

Ping G425M 20.5* Tensei Raw Org 75S

Ping G425 22* ADIZ85S

Ping G425 26* ADIZ85S

T100S 6-7 (1* weak) Aerotech FC115

T100 8-PW  Aerotech FC115

Titleist T100 50*  Aerotech FC115

Vokey SM8 54.12D/58.8M Aerotech FC115
SC Champ Choice Newport 2 Stability Shaft Tour

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I would say if you like the feel of a counterbalanced Hzrdus Yellow, then you should try the Tensei Pro Orange. Both are counterbalanced, but the Tensei is going to produce lower spin. It does say low launch, but I find it easy to elevate and I used to have a low flight with driver up until I focused on hitting at a higher AOA. My swing speed is a few mph faster, but I am seeing great results from moving from an Aldila Rogue 125msi to the Pro Orange. The Pro Orange and my new M3 driver have both proven to be a better combo over my previous setup.

TM SIM 9* Ventus Black 6TX 
TM SIM Ti 19* Ventus Black 9TX 
TM P790 3 DG X100 

TM P7MC 4, 2014 MB 5-PW DG X7
TM MG 52, 56, Hi-Toe 60 DG S400
TM Spider Tour Black

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Diamana DF launches mid, AD TP, AD GP will launch little lower than TP for most, Aldila 2019 ATX Tour Green graphene prototype launches mid for me and very low spin. The ATX proto i am currently testing and absolutely love the feel and getting good numbers with it, probably new gamer shaft. ATX Blue proto will launch higher than green for most.Tensei Pro Blue and AV Blue as others mentioned

Titleist TsR3 10* w/Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6s

Callaway Epic Flash sz 15* /Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7s

Titleist Tsi2 hybrid 18* /GD Tour AD IZ 85x

Titleist T-100s 4-GW /PX Lz 6.0

Titleist SM9 54-12d, 60-10s /PX Lz 6.0

Bettinardi BBzero

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Oh also Fujikura Atmos TS Blue, and Fuji Ventus

 

not a big fan of the Atmos shafts. i have tried them. We are not simpatico.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Another vote for the Attas Cool. You would need to find the right X flex and tip it appropriately BUT thats one smooth shaft.

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Quig you're going to go down the rabbit hole lol. With so many options and time you can spend testing, why not just throw down $100 and get fit at club champion or something and just buy whatever fits you best?

 

where is club champion?? never heard of them.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Not sure if sarcastic?

 

If you are questioning my question about club champion, no it is not sarcastic. I did look it up and there is nothing close to me like that.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Not sure if sarcastic?

 

If you are questioning my question about club champion, no it is not sarcastic. I did look it up and there is nothing close to me like that.

 

Thought about getting a few shafts from ShaftShack and trying them out since you have access to the GCQ?

 

Not a bad way to go. I just dont want to spend a bunch of money trying stuff only to have to spend more money to actually get it.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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But at least you’ll know. I am/was an engineer (management now). The search for the perfect driver shaft is all about eliminating variables.

 

I have an M4 and F8+ that weigh exactly the same down to the gram, multiple shafts that for each (M4- KKDC, Rogue 110, Pro Blue; F8+ 73x Blueboard, 60x Tensei Blue)

 

I know I like the Blue profile, now it’s all about finding the right ball speed, launch, and spin. Will be renting time on a TM next week. I took a few random swings on a TM at TrueSpec with the F8+ and regular Tens Blue - 118mph 275 carry, spin around 3000, weight back - and I hit the middle of the face every single time with this combo.

 

Ultimate point, I know the swing is there and I know I like a 45” length. Got make the sacrifice to get to where I want to be.

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Honestly if your current Tensei shaft is the actual "Pro" version then pretty much everything else will be lateral moves. All the other Mitsubishi shafts in the Blue range might be worth a try, you can also snag a Handcrafted Project X LZ for fairly cheap if you liked the Yellow, similar concept.

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Taylormade Stealth+ 16* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 20* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X
Callaway X-Forged Single♦️  22* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X 
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J40 DPC 4i-7i 24*- 35* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
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