Gapping Between 4 Iron and 3 Wood

b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'erMembers Posts: 486 ✭✭
I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



Hybrid:

Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



7 Wood:

Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



3 Iron:

Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



Other Info:

Driver SS: 120mph

Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



What club would you choose???
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14th Club???

714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

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  • ian-500ian-500 Members Posts: 698 ✭✭
    7 wood for me. I'm comfortable hitting high lofted woods. Is it windy quite a lot where you live?
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  • stimpmeterpstimpmeterp Washington DCMembers Posts: 746 ✭✭
    Look for something in the 19* range and consider the Cobra F6 Baffler. Throw a heavy shaft in there. See this thread.

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  • Downtown_Brown_41Downtown_Brown_41 Members Posts: 579 ✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 7:03pm #4
    Sounds like similar issues I’m having. With the 3h off the tee I found a nice low-mid flighted draw that works wonders into the wind
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  • Z1ggy16Z1ggy16 Members Posts: 7,248 ✭✭
    I'd pick a high launching 5w and play it -.5 or .75''. F9 with the rails at 18* might fit the bill as a good all rounded. Maybe not great off the tee for distance, but gets out of the rough with the rails, and should hold most greens.
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  • tannyhobantannyhoban Members Posts: 1,832 ✭✭
    You're trolling us dude. Get a 64 wedge for all those approach shots from the rough.
  • AdmhowarthAdmhowarth ClubWRX Posts: 393 ClubWRX
    I moved to a 19 H to answer the same question. Seems to gap me the best and offers the most flexibility in terms of helping with trouble.



  • lil'mikelil'mike Members Posts: 1,278 ✭✭
    I am not sure what loft your 4i or 4wd is but what about one of those Crossover/Utility clubs in like a 3 iron loft (19-20)?
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,834 ✭✭
    Two clubs ... Cally apex 18* hybrid ... v1

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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,834 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:


    I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



    Hybrid:

    Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

    Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



    7 Wood:

    Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

    Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



    3 Iron:

    Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

    Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



    Other Info:

    Driver SS: 120mph

    Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

    Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



    What club would you choose???




    Pls add a signature with your current set up
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  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭
    cardoustie wrote:




    Pls add a signature with your current set up




    Done sir!
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    14th Club???

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  • Downtown_Brown_41Downtown_Brown_41 Members Posts: 579 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:

    cardoustie wrote:


    Pls add a signature with your current set up




    Done sir!


    Get your hands on a hybrid that you can adjust flat and slightly open. Pair it with a stout shaft of your choosing
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  • Heyitsben5Heyitsben5 Members Posts: 1
    edited Mar 15, 2019 10:02pm #15
    Have you hit the gapr low yet? It is butter.
  • Hester65Hester65 Members Posts: 602 ✭✭
    What’s the loft of your 4 iron?
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  • RebbuttRebbutt Members Posts: 16
    edited Mar 15, 2019 10:17pm #17
    Similar problem ... I have a 2H (Cleveland Classic 19.5* with Gliderails) and a 20* 4-iron. 2H carries 225-235, 4-iron carries 200-210. I regularly play a course that has 2 par 3s that are 215-220yds, so I usually just choke down 1” on the 2H to avoid over swinging a 4-iron.



    note: I carry 3 wedges and a 3 wood so no open slot for a 3-iron; just as well because I’d probably catch it 10% of the time on 20% of the days I play
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  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭
    Hester65 wrote:


    What's the loft of your 4 iron?




    24 degrees

    Heyitsben5 wrote:


    Have you hit the gapr low yet? It is butter.




    Want to try it but will have to wait until the snow melts!
    2017 Taylormade M1 (9.5, Wishon Black 85X)

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    14th Club???

    714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

    SM6 (46.08F, 50.12F, 55.15F, 60.12V, S400)

    Some ugly, beat up putter
  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭


    Get a hybrid, 7w, and a 3i. Play the 7w when it's not windy, and the 3i when it is. Sell the hybrid on BST.



    Buying more clubs than necessary is the most GolWRXer thing to do.




    hahahahaha
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    14th Club???

    714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

    SM6 (46.08F, 50.12F, 55.15F, 60.12V, S400)

    Some ugly, beat up putter
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,834 ✭✭
    Get the Cally apex 20 ... very anti left and iron like
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  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭
    lil wrote:


    I am not sure what loft your 4i or 4wd is but what about one of those Crossover/Utility clubs in like a 3 iron loft (19-20)?




    Ping Crossover looks appealing for sure!
    2017 Taylormade M1 (9.5, Wishon Black 85X)

    2017 Taylormade M1 (17, Wishon Black 85X)

    14th Club???

    714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

    SM6 (46.08F, 50.12F, 55.15F, 60.12V, S400)

    Some ugly, beat up putter
  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭
    edited Mar 15, 2019 11:50pm #22
    tannyhoban wrote:


    You're trolling us dude. Get a 64 wedge for all those approach shots from the rough.




    The day I'm good to enough to hit a 64 degree wedge is the day I'll marry Gisele and win the lottery image/taunt.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':taunt:' />. I wish I was trolling about hitting that few fairways :/
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    14th Club???

    714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

    SM6 (46.08F, 50.12F, 55.15F, 60.12V, S400)

    Some ugly, beat up putter
  • lil'mikelil'mike Members Posts: 1,278 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:

    lil wrote:


    I am not sure what loft your 4i or 4wd is but what about one of those Crossover/Utility clubs in like a 3 iron loft (19-20)?




    Ping Crossover looks appealing for sure!




    I hit one of those and yeah they are pretty sweet! Go hit one and see! I think it might fit well for what you are looking for and easy to flight down if windy out compared to the hybrid! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • chivachiva Members Posts: 2,477 ✭✭
    Ping G410 hybrid adjusted open and flat?
    OB and water hazards you flunkies
  • knackersknackers Members Posts: 14 ✭✭
    3iron ap2 or driving iron check distance and would consider with the 3iron purchasing a 5wood for switching in and out considering course conditions. 5wood should be around 250s with your ss.
  • uglandeuglande Members Posts: 136 ✭✭
    edited Apr 6, 2019 2:00pm #26
    I love playing a 7 wood. Money out of the rough and hitting into greens. I just ordered the Titleist TS2 version but last year played with the 917 F2, which sits square and has the adjustability to dial it in so that it gives you a good trajectory without ballooning. I also use a low-launch shaft for this reason. Lots of guys on tour play 7-woods (Charles Howell, Keith Mitchell, Miguel Angel Jimenez) in part because some of the manufacturers make more players versions of these clubs, unlike the sky-ball launchers of the past. You obviously hit driver a long way. I would think you could hit into a lot of par 5s with 7 wood.



    Here's my feeling about playing 3-iron because of windy conditions, FWIW ... Sure, if you are hitting dead into a heavy wind, 7-wood isn't great and you'll have to take more club, punch a 3-wood, or whatever. It's a solvable problem. But now reverse it. You have that same strong wind behind you and you're hitting into a green with a 3 iron. Unless you can consistently hit a soft, high cut from the fairway with a 3 iron (I can't) that long iron isn't going to be much help. Meanwhile, the 3i is going to be pretty worthless out of the rough or from wonky lies.



    Another option that intrigues me is the TaylorMade GAPR (especially the Mid). Ugly as **** but they really work and do what they advertise by serving as the gap club between your longest iron and shortest fairway. They also feel really good and are adjustable.



    Good luck.
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  • Phillipsac18Phillipsac18 Members Posts: 48 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:


    I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



    Hybrid:

    Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

    Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



    7 Wood:

    Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

    Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



    3 Iron:

    Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

    Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



    Other Info:

    Driver SS: 120mph

    Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

    Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



    What club would you choose???




    We have similar speed and distances. Only difference is i have a 15* 3 wood, but between that and 4 iron has always been a spot im trying to figure out. As has been mentioned previously, i think it really depends on what you want to do with the club. If you want something safe off the tee then choose a 3 iron. If you hit as few fairways as you say then i would personally choose a hybrid to attack par 5s more. I have a hybrid and 5 wood that i rotate in that spot in the bag. Never personally liked a 3 iron due to being difficult to hit consistently and not being as versatile (for me) as the other options. Never liked a 7 wood either because they spin way too much for me and go way too high.



    There really is no correct answer though.
  • bamagolfbamagolf Members Posts: 168 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:


    I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



    Hybrid:

    Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

    Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



    7 Wood:

    Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

    Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



    3 Iron:

    Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

    Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



    Other Info:

    Driver SS: 120mph

    Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

    Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



    What club would you choose???




    So if the 4 wood is 275, how far do you hit the driver Hercules?

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  • Krt22Krt22 Members Posts: 6,442 ✭✭
    Slightly less speed but have this spot rotating as well. I have a srixon u65 playing like a 2.5iron(19*, 39.25"). I typically play this in the summer, tons of run out on baked out fairways and great in the wind. Sometimes goes too far off the tee though



    A Cobra baffler f6 at 17.5, at 41" with Kai'Li 80x tipped 2". Goes similar distance but much higher flight. Basically an all carry club.



    Also typically fight a hook so typically stay away from hybrids. I was trying out the gapr mid and low and didn't play much different than my srixon u65. On a whim I tried a m3 hybrid. Nice little fall off fades, 145mph ball speeds , very easy to hit. Picked up a used on with a speeder 869x for $110. Im hoping it's the best of both
  • b.mattayb.mattay New WRX'er Members Posts: 486 ✭✭
    edited Mar 16, 2019 7:23pm #30
    bamagolf wrote:

    b.mattay wrote:


    I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



    Hybrid:

    Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

    Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



    7 Wood:

    Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

    Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



    3 Iron:

    Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

    Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



    Other Info:

    Driver SS: 120mph

    Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

    Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



    What club would you choose???




    So if the 4 wood is 275, how far do you hit the driver Hercules?




    Hahaha about 300 carry avg if teed high. However, on tight holes I tee it really low, choke down and hit a squeeze fade which carries about 280
    2017 Taylormade M1 (9.5, Wishon Black 85X)

    2017 Taylormade M1 (17, Wishon Black 85X)

    14th Club???

    714 AP2 (4-9, X100)

    SM6 (46.08F, 50.12F, 55.15F, 60.12V, S400)

    Some ugly, beat up putter
  • bamagolfbamagolf Members Posts: 168 ✭✭
    b.mattay wrote:

    bamagolf wrote:

    b.mattay wrote:


    I am currently looking for a 250 yard club to fill the gap between my 4 iron (225 yards) and 4 wood (275 yards). I have tried a hybrid, 7 wood and 3 iron and each have their pros and cons.



    Hybrid:

    Pros: Great out of rough, nice to use around the greens.

    Cons: Hard to commit to off the tee (get too sweepy and hit big hooks). I also get occasional nukes coming into par 5's where the ball comes out like a driver flight and I airmail the green by 30 yards.



    7 Wood:

    Pros: Best out of rough, most stopping power.

    Cons: Crappy on windy days, always seems to sit closed regardless of model which gets in my head at times.



    3 Iron:

    Pros: Easy to hit low bullets in the wind, most accurate left-right dispersion.

    Cons: Crappy out the rough into a par 5, hard to swing on really cold days. Difficult to hold firm greens.



    Other Info:

    Driver SS: 120mph

    Ball Flight: High draw, miss is an overcook.

    Miscellanous: Hit 35% of fairways, play from the rough a lot.



    What club would you choose???




    So if the 4 wood is 275, how far do you hit the driver Hercules?




    Hahaha about 300 carry avg if teed high. However, on tight holes I tee it really low, choke down and hit a squeeze fade which carries about 280




    Wow! If you get any roll at all that puts you in the top 20 of the PGA Tour in driving distance. I’m just curious, for someone who hits it as far or farther than the best in the world who is also a +2, what would lead you to seek advice from a message board for what club should be between your 225 4 iron and your 275 4 wood? I just got to know.
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