Sub 70 Clubs

[Armour248]

$499 for a 4-Pw set with KBS Tour S shafts? Price is right if they're any good. The model 699 looks decent, but I'm not changing irons until mine absolutely die.

 

I would inquire if they are parallel or taper. Profile is different between the two on the KBS tour.

 

I also see different shaft offerings now on the irons, looks like some better options, although there are up charges on quite a few, but the up charge isn't too steep!

 

They're parallel only at the moment but are planning on getting heads for tapered shafts as well

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$499 for a 4-Pw set with KBS Tour S shafts? Price is right if they're any good. The model 699 looks decent, but I'm not changing irons until mine absolutely die.

 

I would inquire if they are parallel or taper. Profile is different between the two on the KBS tour.

 

I also see different shaft offerings now on the irons, looks like some better options, although there are up charges on quite a few, but the up charge isn't too steep!

 

They're parallel only at the moment but are planning on getting heads for tapered shafts as well

 

Not that big a deal to me, KBS tour still a good shaft in parallel, but profiles softer than the taper version.

 

I watched the podcast at golfunfiltered linked above, as well as checked out the review of the 639CB by the interviewer (of the podcast). There's a promo clip at the bottom of the page showing that Jeff Bushnell is the master builder. I've talked to him several times when making orders through their other companies. He's definitely knowledgeable and the fact that at this point he's the one building the sub70 orders is pretty cool. Pretty sure he told me he either grew up or spent time in Wisco during summer mos. around Mascoutin and Lawsonia. Jason Hiland went to college at UW Oshkosh which has been a good rival in football of late to my Alma mater UW Whitewater! Cool they both have Wisco ties and are doing their thing in the golf industry.

 

I'll def route for them to be successful. Small company with excellent service, and I can attest to their turn around time getting orders out is quick, as well as excellent customer service!

[getgolfed]

Would be great if a mod can move this to the main equipment board...

[Bece2117]

I messaged a MOD to see if he could help out

[Armour248]

I messaged a MOD to see if he could help out

 

Hopefully they can move it over. Definitely not a "deal or no deal" discussion.

[SheriffBooth]

The best way to get a Marshal's attention is to use the Report button as it reaches the widest audience. We aren't all checking PM's.

[Bece2117]

Thanks SheriffBooth, we appreciate it

[getgolfed]

The best way to get a Marshal's attention is to use the Report button as it reaches the widest audience. We aren't all checking PM's.

 

Thanks!

[benrd5420]

I participated in the demo program for the 699.  I was also demo'ing the Ben Hogan PTx at the same time, next to my gamers at the time.  I think they are great clubs, especially for the price.  I think it was unfair to bounce between those clubs, as the Hogan's and my clubs had a significantly better feel (forged vs. cast).  I have heard people compare them to the P-790', and I am not sure that I agree with that.  I think it is something more like P-790 and i500 had a baby, and it kind of got the most 'okay' qualities of both.

I was very impressed with the Sub 70 people, and highly encourage people to try them out.  Definitely worth a swing.

 

[Cruisin1966]

benrd5420 said:

I participated in the demo program for the 699.  I was also demo'ing the Ben Hogan PTx at the same time, next to my gamers at the time.  I think they are great clubs, especially for the price.  I think it was unfair to bounce between those clubs, as the Hogan's and my clubs had a significantly better feel (forged vs. cast).  I have heard people compare them to the P-790', and I am not sure that I agree with that.  I think it is something more like P-790 and i500 had a baby, and it kind of got the most 'okay' qualities of both.

I was very impressed with the Sub 70 people, and highly encourage people to try them out.  Definitely worth a swing.

Waiting on my 699's (4-P) to arrive.  Apparently they shipped today,

[Armour248]

benrd5420 said:

I participated in the demo program for the 699.  I was also demo'ing the Ben Hogan PTx at the same time, next to my gamers at the time.  I think they are great clubs, especially for the price.  I think it was unfair to bounce between those clubs, as the Hogan's and my clubs had a significantly better feel (forged vs. cast).  I have heard people compare them to the P-790', and I am not sure that I agree with that.  I think it is something more like P-790 and i500 had a baby, and it kind of got the most 'okay' qualities of both.

I was very impressed with the Sub 70 people, and highly encourage people to try them out.  Definitely worth a swing.

You should give the 639 CBs a try. Would definitely be closer to the PTx's with the forged heads. They should have their forged MBs by June 1

[Munich77]

Cruisin1966 said:

benrd5420 said:

I participated in the demo program for the 699.  I was also demo'ing the Ben Hogan PTx at the same time, next to my gamers at the time.  I think they are great clubs, especially for the price.  I think it was unfair to bounce between those clubs, as the Hogan's and my clubs had a significantly better feel (forged vs. cast).  I have heard people compare them to the P-790', and I am not sure that I agree with that.  I think it is something more like P-790 and i500 had a baby, and it kind of got the most 'okay' qualities of both.

I was very impressed with the Sub 70 people, and highly encourage people to try them out.  Definitely worth a swing.

Waiting on my 699's (4-P) to arrive.  Apparently they shipped today,Looking forward to hearing a review of the 699s they are always tempting! 

[Bece2117]

Was supposed to have my demo 699’s yesterday but UPS screwed up the delivery (shocker)!

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> I participated in the demo program for the 699.  I was also demo'ing the Ben Hogan PTx at the same time, next to my gamers at the time.  I think they are great clubs, especially for the price.  I think it was unfair to bounce between those clubs, as the Hogan's and my clubs had a significantly better feel (forged vs. cast).  I have heard people compare them to the P-790', and I am not sure that I agree with that.  I think it is something more like P-790 and i500 had a baby, and it kind of got the most 'okay' qualities of both.

> I was very impressed with the Sub 70 people, and highly encourage people to try them out.  Definitely worth a swing.

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> Waiting on my 699's (4-P) to arrive.  Apparently they shipped today,

 

If you don't mind, pics would be much appreciated! Once you get them of course!

[Armour248]

> @Bece2117 said:

> Was supposed to have my demo 699’s yesterday but UPS screwed up the delivery (shocker)!

 

Usually it's USPS raining on my parade...hopefully UPS gets them to you today.

[Armour248]

> @Bece2117 said:

> Was supposed to have my demo 699’s yesterday but UPS screwed up the delivery (shocker)!

 

Hey did these get to you?

[Cruisin1966]

I should have my 699's on Friday to install the Prosoft inserts and grips.

[JShaw]

I'm also looking forward to reviews. It does seem similar to the Ben Hogan marketing/business model. Even their websites look very similar.

 

[Bece2117]

Got them in but havent been able to hit them yet, here are some pics

 

[JShaw]

Those look pretty slick. Also looks like a pretty wide sole on the 9. Are all the irons in the 699s hollow bodied?

 

[Bece2117]

> @JShaw said:

> Those look pretty slick. Also looks like a pretty wide sole on the 9. Are all the irons in the 699s hollow bodied?

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Yes they are hollow but I believe they are filled with some material similar to the P790's

[gioguy21]

man she thicc

[Armour248]

> @JShaw said:

> Those look pretty slick. Also looks like a pretty wide sole on the 9. Are all the irons in the 699s hollow bodied?

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Yeah all hollow with a gel injection behind the face. Definitely more launch/distance compared to the forged heads.

[LowDime]

I like the idea for sure. The price point for a 3-pw cb iron set with a shaft i play and my grip choice was close to 900 bucks though. So that is kinda tough for sure.

[JShaw]

> @LowDime said:

> I like the idea for sure. The price point for a 3-pw cb iron set with a shaft i play and my grip choice was close to 900 bucks though. So that is kinda tough for sure.

 

The shaft upgrades are kind of pricey. They look to be a good deal if the KBS Tours are what you're after though. If the C-taper, DG, or PX was the stock shaft I would probably have already ordered a set. I play tour velvets so no grip upgrade to worry about.

[LowDime]

ya i was looking at the c-tapers or the modus 120's. And i have plated the mdc grips.

[Cruisin1966]

699's have arrived. Dropped them off to have the Prosoft inserts installed along with the grips and labels. Hoping to get them back tomorrow and got hit the range

[Bece2117]

So finally had a chance to get out and hit these. Had two demo’s built, 9 iron with Modus 120 and 5 iron with C-Taper Lite (looking for extra lift on the long irons.)

 

Here’a my take...LOVE the 5 iron, sets up well behind the ball, nice confident look to it. The 9 iron to me felt a little on the chunky side, the big rounded toe may have been the issue for me.

 

Performance wise I will say that the C-Taper performed well for me in the 5 iron, gave me the ball flight I was looking for. The 9 iron with the Modus was ok, something about the size of the head bugged me, would just prefer that short iron to be a little more compact. I know I know, get the 639’s if I want compact.

 

Overall they were nice, not blown away but if you can get a set with your shaft for 30-40% less than the large OEM’s these surely aren’t going to perform 30-40% less than the big guys.

[Armour248]

> @LowDime said:

> I like the idea for sure. The price point for a 3-pw cb iron set with a shaft i play and my grip choice was close to 900 bucks though. So that is kinda tough for sure.

 

I have to assume the apples-to-apples comparison would be $1400 or so from most OEMs though right?

 

> @Bece2117 said:

> So finally had a chance to get out and hit these. Had two demo’s built, 9 iron with Modus 120 and 5 iron with C-Taper Lite (looking for extra lift on the long irons.)

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> Here’a my take...LOVE the 5 iron, sets up well behind the ball, nice confident look to it. The 9 iron to me felt a little on the chunky side, the big rounded toe may have been the issue for me.

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> Performance wise I will say that the C-Taper performed well for me in the 5 iron, gave me the ball flight I was looking for. The 9 iron with the Modus was ok, something about the size of the head bugged me, would just prefer that short iron to be a little more compact. I know I know, get the 639’s if I want compact.

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> Overall they were nice, not blown away but if you can get a set with your shaft for 30-40% less than the large OEM’s these surely aren’t going to perform 30-40% less than the big guys.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[Tim Sherwood]

If I could get them in the UK, I'd be all over those irons.