Looking for slightly more forgiving "player irons"

[Z1ggy16]

Hate that term but it is what it is. Currently in some cb/mb combo's and while I love the feel and just the thought of gaming Miura's... They are pretty unforgiving on my miss, which is a little toey. I still want something classic looking but with just a little more forgiveness and something with fairly traditional lofts so I'm not sacrificing spin. Soft feel is a huge bonus.

 

Short list are p750, p760, Apex pro (2014 and 2019), AP2 & maybe 919F or iBlade. I've tested MP-18SC and Z785 and wasn't a huge fan purely because of feel but I did get pretty good results from Z785. Also, am Lefty so that eliminates clubs like 919 Tour, etc. Not opposed to slightly older sets.

[SwooshLT]

Lefty in same boat.....have iblade now and they are high performers just not buttery forged.....I'm entertaining mp54/53 but open to others as well

[Z1ggy16]

I've played 54's. Definitely soft, tough to find any is really nice shape still, at least when I looked last.

[fpyle3]

I play a set of Miura CBs, but have a set of 716 AP2s in a backup bag that are definitely more forgiving. The newest AP2s may be even better, and certainly look better. As a lefty, you may be able to find a deal on something like that? I've owned the Mizzy MP54s and while they felt pretty good and were relatively forgiving, they launched higher than I expected and played a little shorter than I had hoped.

[Whit1969]

I have played JPX 900 Forged, and 716-718 AP2s in the past year and the 718s are still in the bag. For me they were not as long as the JPX 900, but were a tad more forgiving. JPX 900 Forged are strong lofted 3-7 iron. They were also less spinning than the 716 AP2 and have a better leading edge. Honestly I don't think you could go wrong with either of these three sets.

[MelloYello]

716 CB has been great for me.

 

According to Titleist, the 716 CBs are as forgiving as the 714 AP2. Toe-strikes on my 716 CBs are shockingly forgiving versus the MBs I had previously.

[Z1ggy16]

> @fpyle3 said:

> I play a set of Miura CBs, but have a set of 716 AP2s in a backup bag that are definitely more forgiving. The newest AP2s may be even better, and certainly look better. As a lefty, you may be able to find a deal on something like that? I've owned the Mizzy MP54s and while they felt pretty good and were relatively forgiving, they launched higher than I expected and played a little shorter than I had hoped.

 

Yeah I hit the 919 Forged and they were almost too long. Hitting the 7i with too low of spin and I would carry a few in the mid 170's, which then ultimately causes a weird gap either between 8 and 9i, or possible even 9i to wedge. I suspect something a little more forgiving might lower my spin a tad and I don't mind adjusting lofts or even switching balls to compensate. I just don't want a 7i spinning at 5,000 (unless it launches to the moon.. but then those are tough to play down wind).

[braincramp52]

I'm really loving my Mizuno MP59's.

[lookylookitzadam]

I just moved from mp18sc's to z785s. The 785s are night and day difference in forgiveness over the mp18sc. I even find the z785 long irons easier to hit compared to the mp18 mmc irons I had in 4i & 5i

[bcsquare]

I would suggest the 718 AP2 and Apex Pro 19's given your criteria. I've found both to be very forgiving for a player's CB. 716 and 718 CB's are another great choice.

 

I'm curious why the MP-18SC didn't work out. The MP-18MMC is quite good and has a bit firmer feel.

[Maverick17]

Mizuno MP-57’s seem to fit your bill perfectly

[Mahamilto]

T-MB 3-6, AP2 7-W... or some combination there of...

 

Thank me later.

[Z1ggy16]

> @bcsquare said:

> I would suggest the 718 AP2 and Apex Pro 19's given your criteria. I've found both to be very forgiving for a player's CB. 716 and 718 CB's are another great choice.

>

> I'm curious why the MP-18SC didn't work out. The MP-18MMC is quite good and has a bit firmer feel.

 

I can't give you a really good reason as to why... something was just "off" about them. Hit them side by side with 919 Forged and just felt like the forged was better all around. Similar size and feel but the forged was giving better end results. Same shaft, too.

 

I did demo p760 and AP19. Loved both. Nervous about the added speed from those irons, might need to give AP2 a shot.

[theothertwo]

Miura CB 57 is what I have now.

[cardoustie]

I went from Mizuno blades ... to Miura tournament blades .... to Ping S series (every one from s58 to s57 to s56 to s55)

The Ping s55 in your answer. I have a set of these and I mix in Rapture or Rapture J long irons

The Miura and Mizuno's were awesome on perfect shots. But the PING s55 with the tungsten toe weight is soooo easy on toe misses (which is my miss)

Myself and others here tried the iblade's and went right back to s55. YMMV

[cardoustie]

t-mb's also good. I have a set of those as well. Only negative is they are not fantastic on slightly thin misses (like the s55's are)

[Nixhex524]

S55s are great and very player looking.... The Srixon 7x5 series might also be worth a look, but my current J15 cb have been the most forgiving iron while still having that player look. Blade length is a touch longer than my 745s, but the top line is thinner, which I love. They have been phenomenal irons so far, good enough I put the S55s up for sale. Currently own those 3 and have enjoyed playing all of them from a feel and forgiveness standpoint.

[jbole267]

Srixon 745 is my current, amazing.

Will be making shift to 785 eventually, which I think you would like with more use.

[Z1ggy16]

> @cardoustie said:

> t-mb's also good. I have a set of those as well. Only negative is they are not fantastic on slightly thin misses (like the s55's are)

Also TMB are $$$$. I'm trying to keep it relatively close to the value of my Miura's I think for this very moment. So.. Anything like $650 or so is okay. Maybe would toss a few bucks more at something in really nice shape.

 

 

> @Nixhex524 said:

> S55s are great and very player looking.... The Srixon 7x5 series might also be worth a look, but my current J15 cb have been the most forgiving iron while still having that player look. Blade length is a touch longer than my 745s, but the top line is thinner, which I love. They have been phenomenal irons so far, good enough I put the S55s up for sale. Currently own those 3 and have enjoyed playing all of them from a feel and forgiveness standpoint.

 

J15CB almost impossible to find in LH. 0 sets on eBay.

[BogeyLJA]

785 and Apex pro 19' are both fantastic. Currently debating between the two!

[gdb99]

Look at the Maltby Play-ability Chart, and look for something with a higher C dimension.

[cardoustie]

J15 so pretty. I looooove my mb's but my other sets are easier, the Bridgestones remind me of my old Miura's

[Z1ggy16]

> @gdb99 said:

> Look at the Maltby Play-ability Chart, and look for something with a higher C dimension.

 

Yeah I did look at that actually. My Miura are listed and it's C dim is 1.084... pretty heel biased. What's a number to be around? 1.2 to 1.3?

[puttingmatt]

May want to consider Callaway X Forged.

Easy to play CB, nice soft Forged feel, very consistant distance, and left hand availability.

[KevCannon]

I will second the Cally X Forged, now i am definitely biased as i game those currently. I tested 18’ AP2, had played 16’ apex pro, MP 18sc and Mmc, twk finalists werw x forged and mp18 sc, x forged just felt better and softer.

[Fairways_and_Greens]

> @puttingmatt said:

> May want to consider Callaway X Forged.

> Easy to play CB, nice soft Forged feel, very consistant distance, and left hand availability.

 

Yeah, but they aren't going to be softer than the Srixons. And the Srixons probably have a little more help with the tungsten slug for his toe miss.

[tsecor]

what will your set make up be? > @Z1ggy16 said:

> Hate that term but it is what it is. Currently in some cb/mb combo's and while I love the feel and just the thought of gaming Miura's... They are pretty unforgiving on my miss, which is a little toey. I still want something classic looking but with just a little more forgiveness and something with fairly traditional lofts so I'm not sacrificing spin. Soft feel is a huge bonus.

>

> Short list are p750, p760, Apex pro (2014 and 2019), AP2 & maybe 919F or iBlade. I've tested MP-18SC and Z785 and wasn't a huge fan purely because of feel but I did get pretty good results from Z785. Also, am Lefty so that eliminates clubs like 919 Tour, etc. Not opposed to slightly older sets.

 

 

[tsecor]

I play the 712 CB's and they have never disappointed. Look like a blade, plays like a SGI. I love them > @MelloYello said:

> 716 CB has been great for me.

>

> According to Titleist, the 716 CBs are as forgiving as the 714 AP2. Toe-strikes on my 716 CBs are shockingly forgiving versus the MBs I had previously.

 

 

[Z1ggy16]

> @tsecor said:

> what will your set make up be? > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > Hate that term but it is what it is. Currently in some cb/mb combo's and while I love the feel and just the thought of gaming Miura's... They are pretty unforgiving on my miss, which is a little toey. I still want something classic looking but with just a little more forgiveness and something with fairly traditional lofts so I'm not sacrificing spin. Soft feel is a huge bonus.

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> > Short list are p750, p760, Apex pro (2014 and 2019), AP2 & maybe 919F or iBlade. I've tested MP-18SC and Z785 and wasn't a huge fan purely because of feel but I did get pretty good results from Z785. Also, am Lefty so that eliminates clubs like 919 Tour, etc. Not opposed to slightly older sets.

>

>

 

I'll probably keep my P790 4i since it's nice off the tee and still lands fairly soft off the deck, so 5-PW on whatever my next set is.

 

At this point I'm kiiiind of leaning S55 or Apex Pro '14 because there are sets out there for only like $350. Little beat up looking some, but nothing crazy. Unless I found a really good deal on something like AP19 or AP2 for $650 or less, I'd rather try to make an even swap or make some $$ out of this change.

[C_rad]

Keep reading the comments. If only i could go back in time and buy the s55 that were on sale at golftown. They were my dream irons and i never pull the triger