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  • bbfifasbbfifas  501Members Posts: 501
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    @rxk9fan said:
    I went to the local demo day today just to hit all the new toys. Love doing it every chance I get :-). Hit a bunch of the newer irons from Srixon, Mizuno, Ping, and Callaway. Lots of great clubs but nothing I felt passionate about changing to. I really had not planned to try drivers, but had the time so hit the XXIO, Ping G410, M6, and Mizuno.
    The first Mizuno handed to me was shafted with the Tensei blue stiff 60.
    Mine should be here next Tuesday :-)

    Awesome. Taking mine out this afternoon for first real test ride. I have the Tensei White. Seems like the Tensei White and Blue are solid performers in this club. Did you try any other shafts?

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    Mizuno St190, 8.5*, Tensei White 70X shaft
    Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
    Taylormade V-Steel 5 wood, stock stiff
    Cobra F7 Hybrid 20* stiff Fuji Pro 75
    Cobra Forged Tec 5-PW, KBS C-taper lite stiff
    Cleveland CBX 50*, 115g DG
    place holder - currently 56* ATV wedge
    Vokey 58M
    Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34"
    Bridegstone Tour BX

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 869ClubWRX Posts: 869
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    I'm enjoying the Atmos TS Black with the 9.5º head

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    No more golf until Spring.

  • rxk9fanrxk9fan Midwest 854Members Posts: 854
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    @bbfifas said:

    @rxk9fan said:
    I went to the local demo day today just to hit all the new toys. Love doing it every chance I get :-). Hit a bunch of the newer irons from Srixon, Mizuno, Ping, and Callaway. Lots of great clubs but nothing I felt passionate about changing to. I really had not planned to try drivers, but had the time so hit the XXIO, Ping G410, M6, and Mizuno.
    The first Mizuno handed to me was shafted with the Tensei blue stiff 60.
    Mine should be here next Tuesday :-)

    Awesome. Taking mine out this afternoon for first real test ride. I have the Tensei White. Seems like the Tensei White and Blue are solid performers in this club. Did you try any other shafts?

    I honestly did not. The guys running the Mizuno table were fitters from a nearby town that have built me a couple of sets of irons and I have done a couple of Trackman sessions with them. I told them I was still playing a HZRDUS black 6.0 and they handed me this club. I hit a handful of balls and for me just crushed them. Then I tried 3 different brands before going back to the Mizuno guys. I asked to hit it again thinking it was a fluke few balls before. I hit one more and turned around to the fitter and he said "sold" as he laughed (It was perfect trajectory, right where I aimed, and bounced into the fence at the end of the range). I handed it back to him and placed the order. You hear the statement I am about to say around here a lot, but not from me....I could not have hit anything better than I hit this combo. I am 60 years old and my last Trackman session showed pretty average numbers that probably fit well with this pretty average shaft (driver ss average was 105). I have never been a big fan of the look of the Tensei series for some reason but this was the first driver I have ever hit that had a feel that was almost like hitting a forged blade pure. The ball just kind of melted into the face, or at least much more so than my M2(which I went back to after playing an M4 and PingG 400 last year).

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    Taylormade M5 driver with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff 
    Taylormade M4 tour 3 wood with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff
    Taylormade M4 tour 5 wood with Tensei Blue stiff
    Taylormade M6 Rescue 19 degree with Atmos orange stiff
    Taylormade P790 5i with Recoil 95 F4 shaft
    Taylormade P770 6i-AW with Recoil 95 F4 shafts
    Taylormade Hi Toe 54 and 58 with KBS
    Taylormade Spider X

    First single OEM I have played and love it
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4242ClubWRX Posts: 4,242
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    Tried my favorite Proforce V2 for a bit in the 190G head but put the Atmos black back in yesterday and was killing it. Going to stick with this combo now, but an I am impressed with the distance of this club. Z Stars felt amazing off the face. Still loving this driver even the the G400 tries to sneak it's way back in now and then, but I can not take the Mizzy out.

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    Taylormade M2 '17 PX HZRDUS yellow 6.0 76g
    Titleist 917f2 15* Diamana S+ 70s 
    Titleist 915h 21*  Rogue black 85s
    Ping S55 4-P KBS Tour S
    Titleist SM5 50/12, 56/10
    John Byron DH 34"

  • puresurfrpuresurfr  2041Members Posts: 2,041
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    just got in a st190 with Atmos TS Black and this driver is awesome !!!! it checks all the boxes,, great feel and sound, long and low spin and very accurate and super forgiving on low hits

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  • J13J13 Dad golf  15733Members Posts: 15,733
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    ST190 is a great head and just as long as anything else on the market. I've hit it on course, side by side with M series, Cally Flash, and TS for reference.

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    Callaway Epic Flash Triple Diamond 9* / Mitsubishi Tensei White 70TX
    Callaway EF 3+ w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    Srixon 745's 4-PW / Modus Tour 120 TX
    Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 / Modus 125
    Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Flow Neck 35.5" (counter weight removed)
    Srixon Zstar XV
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  • bbfifasbbfifas  501Members Posts: 501
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    Played my first 9 with the 190/Tensei White combo the other day at unfamiliar course. 20 mph wind so tough to judge, swing was not great all my strikes were low on the face but was very pleased with the straightness/distance of shots in the windy conditions and face strike location.

    Hit the range today in a dead headwind of 20 mph with gusts to 30. A little ridiculous.. I hit my 7 iron anywhere from 120-150 yards depending on the gusts. Driver performed really great into the wind a real surprise for me. Not much ballooning at all and kept line very well. For some reason I can't slice this club like I could with my previous drivers. That is a good thing for me. So far very stable feel, straight shots, not ballooning, minimal side movement and the feel is just spot on. Driver is not loud like my previous Ping G that was ear piercing.

    Playing Sunday on a familiar course and hoping for some good conditions to get a real comparison.

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    Mizuno St190, 8.5*, Tensei White 70X shaft
    Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
    Taylormade V-Steel 5 wood, stock stiff
    Cobra F7 Hybrid 20* stiff Fuji Pro 75
    Cobra Forged Tec 5-PW, KBS C-taper lite stiff
    Cleveland CBX 50*, 115g DG
    place holder - currently 56* ATV wedge
    Vokey 58M
    Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34"
    Bridegstone Tour BX

  • BlackM00NlightBlackM00Nlight Iowa 3648Members Posts: 3,648
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    Finally got my first round in with the Tensei White/ST-190G and wowza! I think I’m in love 💙

    First **** ever was 300 down the middle in front of random peeps. The driver is a monster. In my fitting, I was hitting fades. On the course I was getting straight or draws. And for someone who struggles with height on tee shots in the past, this head at 9* with an 80 gram x flex shaft was launching higher but not too high.

    Seriously think I’m in love. Sounds amazing too. Ugh

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    Mizuno ST-190G Tensei White 70X
    Mizuno ST-190TS 15* Tensei White 70X
    Mizuno CLK 19* 3 Hybrid Speeder Evo HB 95X
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC 4-P C-Taper 130X (plus 1/2" 3 up)
    Mizuno S18 50, 55, 60 C-Taper 130X soft stepped (plus 1/2" 3 up)
    Mizuno TP Mills #5
    Titleist Pro V1 X

  • rxk9fanrxk9fan Midwest 854Members Posts: 854
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    Long is relative to the player but for my abilities this driver is long and I love the feel!
    This one club brought the tips back into play for me. This shaft/head combo has given me a legit 20 yards which is a two club difference for me. I am better with my 7i than my 5i :-)

    Posted:
    Taylormade M5 driver with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff 
    Taylormade M4 tour 3 wood with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff
    Taylormade M4 tour 5 wood with Tensei Blue stiff
    Taylormade M6 Rescue 19 degree with Atmos orange stiff
    Taylormade P790 5i with Recoil 95 F4 shaft
    Taylormade P770 6i-AW with Recoil 95 F4 shafts
    Taylormade Hi Toe 54 and 58 with KBS
    Taylormade Spider X

    First single OEM I have played and love it
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4242ClubWRX Posts: 4,242
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    Took my G400 out this past round... I don't think it is any more forgiving than the ST190 and I get more roll out of the Mizuno. May be the first driver that pushes me to offload the Ping....

    Posted:
    Taylormade M2 '17 PX HZRDUS yellow 6.0 76g
    Titleist 917f2 15* Diamana S+ 70s 
    Titleist 915h 21*  Rogue black 85s
    Ping S55 4-P KBS Tour S
    Titleist SM5 50/12, 56/10
    John Byron DH 34"

  • rxk9fanrxk9fan Midwest 854Members Posts: 854
    Joined:  edited Apr 21, 2019 10:28am #192

    @Nixhex524 said:
    Took my G400 out this past round... I don't think it is any more forgiving than the ST190 and I get more roll out of the Mizuno. May be the first driver that pushes me to offload the Ping....

    I know what you mean. I tried to leave my M2 for the G400 and M3 last year only to come back to the M2. The 190ST caused the M2 to be taken out of the bag and sold. I am sure the 190ST will be replaced but it won't be replaced by anything currently available. First Mizuno driver I have liked even a little bit has become my favorite driver I have ever hit!

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    Taylormade M5 driver with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff 
    Taylormade M4 tour 3 wood with Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited stiff
    Taylormade M4 tour 5 wood with Tensei Blue stiff
    Taylormade M6 Rescue 19 degree with Atmos orange stiff
    Taylormade P790 5i with Recoil 95 F4 shaft
    Taylormade P770 6i-AW with Recoil 95 F4 shafts
    Taylormade Hi Toe 54 and 58 with KBS
    Taylormade Spider X

    First single OEM I have played and love it
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  • BlackM00NlightBlackM00Nlight Iowa 3648Members Posts: 3,648
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    I’ve had several Mizzy drivers through the years: TZoid Blue Rage, MP 600, JPX 900, ST180HL briefly, now ST190G.

    Held on to the MP600 the longest, but the Blue Rage Forged feeling was phenomenal back in the day. This ST-190G is going to smoke them all I’m afraid.

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    Mizuno ST-190G Tensei White 70X
    Mizuno ST-190TS 15* Tensei White 70X
    Mizuno CLK 19* 3 Hybrid Speeder Evo HB 95X
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC 4-P C-Taper 130X (plus 1/2" 3 up)
    Mizuno S18 50, 55, 60 C-Taper 130X soft stepped (plus 1/2" 3 up)
    Mizuno TP Mills #5
    Titleist Pro V1 X

  • MD-958MD-958  15Members Posts: 15
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    The reviews on the ST 190 seem to be overwhelmingly positive. I am going to demo one of these soon, maybe it will kick the Epic Flash SZ out of the bag!

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    Ping G410 9* - Tensei Orange 60 S
    Callaway Epic Flash 15* - Tensei AV Blue 70 S
    Ping G410 19* - Tensei Blue 80 S
    Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 4-Gw - KBS C Taper Lite S
    Callaway MD4 Chrome 54* and 58* - Dynamic Gold Tour Issue 115
    Too Many Putters to List!
    Vessel Lite Black Camo
    Titleist Pro V1x

  • aquapigaquapig  261Members Posts: 261
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    This driver has become my favorite club in my bag.

    Still loving it after about 15 rounds.

    Now I’m curious about the 3 wood.

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  • reider69reider69  615Members Posts: 615
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    I was fitted for my ST190 with the KK70X tipped an inch. I am trying to use more hands in my swing and less body and felt a lighter shaft may help reduce tension in swing. I purchased an Aldila Rogue IO 60x to experiment with and really like the lighter feel. I hit 2 of the longest drives of the season with the new lighter shaft. Looks like the KK70x is going to hit the BST!

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    Mizuno ST190 - Kuro Kage Silver Tini 70X
    Cobra BioCell+ - Matrix Ozik Red Tie 6Q3 X
    Cobra BioCell 3-4 Hybrid - Aldila Rogue Black 85 X
    Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 4-G, KBS C Taper Lite X
    Ping Glide Stealth 2.0 - 54 and 58 - Modus 105X
    Callaway Xforged - 64 degrees
    Lajosi DD201 Proto
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  • icandyicandy  231Members Posts: 231
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    Had a fitting last week and the after trying everything out there ST190 with VA Slay Shaft ended up outperforming everything. I usually play a 10.5 driver too, but the 9.5 and Slay combo was giving me optimal height and low spin number fitter was after.

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    Mizuno ST 190 9.5 VA Slay 65 S
    Titleist TS2 18 Accra FX200F M4
    Titleist 816H1 VA Slay 85 S
    Mizuno MP20 H-MB 4i - PW KBS $-Taper S
    Mizuno T7 52, 56, 60 - Nippon Modus 3 Wedge 115
    Areso E30S Putter
  • bbfifasbbfifas  501Members Posts: 501
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    @bbfifas said:
    Played my first 9 with the 190/Tensei White combo the other day at unfamiliar course. 20 mph wind so tough to judge, swing was not great all my strikes were low on the face but was very pleased with the straightness/distance of shots in the windy conditions and face strike location.

    Hit the range today in a dead headwind of 20 mph with gusts to 30. A little ridiculous.. I hit my 7 iron anywhere from 120-150 yards depending on the gusts. Driver performed really great into the wind a real surprise for me. Not much ballooning at all and kept line very well. For some reason I can't slice this club like I could with my previous drivers. That is a good thing for me. So far very stable feel, straight shots, not ballooning, minimal side movement and the feel is just spot on. Driver is not loud like my previous Ping G that was ear piercing.

    Playing Sunday on a familiar course and hoping for some good conditions to get a real comparison.

    OK played my usual course yesterday. Confirmed best driver for me over the years, getting fit is for real. Even on the range warming up I hit the back bushes a few times, something I have not down in a long long time. But beyond that this club feels amazing and performance is just there. I only missed 2 fairways! And that was towards end of the round when I got over confident and swung out of my shoes. Early on in the round I was hitting the club low on the face again (my typical miss as I stand up) but even with that the ball was flying straight and out to around 230ish. Very playable and good distance considering the miss hit compared to my previous drivers. I hit 3 drives that were in spots on the course I have not been in over 10 years with a legit ~20 yard gain for me on the course on these well struck shots. So I would say: great ball speeds all over the face and even very low on the face, forgiveness is high, the sound and feel is perfect, ball wants to go straight I have not had any large hooks or large slices, and the looks of the club is subjective but very nice look at set up and confidence inspiring.

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    Mizuno St190, 8.5*, Tensei White 70X shaft
    Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
    Taylormade V-Steel 5 wood, stock stiff
    Cobra F7 Hybrid 20* stiff Fuji Pro 75
    Cobra Forged Tec 5-PW, KBS C-taper lite stiff
    Cleveland CBX 50*, 115g DG
    place holder - currently 56* ATV wedge
    Vokey 58M
    Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34"
    Bridegstone Tour BX

  • staysober for golfstaysober for golf Low carb guy  1048Members Posts: 1,048
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    Thank you, very use full. i did not know that setting #7 actually increased the lie angle to 59.5*.

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    7.5* M3 440,  CK PR S. (44.75")
    15 * 915 FD, NKv S. (42.75")
    19* Epic Stock S. (40.5")
    4i Epic & 5i  Epic Stock S. 
    X2H Pro 6-PW, Stock S. 
    56* X forged, Stock S.
    Odys wide b/w 
  • conorgolf22conorgolf22 Millstadt,IL 589Members Posts: 589
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    What shaft are you guys seeing the most success with?

    Specifically looking for feedback on the Tensei Orange

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    Post edited by conorgolf22 on
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driver: Callaway Rogue 13.5* Aldila Rogue Elite Blue[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Fairway: Ping G400 17* Aldila 2KXV Orange[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21* Aldila Tour Green[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Driving Iron: PXG 0311X 4 iron Steelfiber i95[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Irons: New Level 902 Forged 5-PW KBS TGI 80[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wedges: Vokey SM6 52* New Level M-Type 58* and 62*[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Putter: Scotty Cameron X7M[/font]
    [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Ball:Vice Pro Plus/font]
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524  4242ClubWRX Posts: 4,242
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    Liking mine with the Atmos black 6 TS, but very interested in trying the Tensei blue.

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    Taylormade M2 '17 PX HZRDUS yellow 6.0 76g
    Titleist 917f2 15* Diamana S+ 70s 
    Titleist 915h 21*  Rogue black 85s
    Ping S55 4-P KBS Tour S
    Titleist SM5 50/12, 56/10
    John Byron DH 34"

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  • Cruisin1966Cruisin1966 Calgary, AB 869ClubWRX Posts: 869
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    @Nixhex524 said:
    Liking mine with the Atmos black 6 TS. . . .

    Ditto

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    No more golf until Spring.

  • jg1166jg1166  362Members Posts: 362
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    Just put the ST 190 I got built into play and so far I am extremely impressed. I put an UST "The Attas" 6 Stiff shaft in it and the ball flight and shape are great. It is only 2 rounds in so I will give an fuller review after a few more rounds

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  • LCGALBERTALCGALBERTA  101Members Posts: 101
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    I haven't bagged a driver since 2015, but I finally purchased a ST190 this past weekend...WOW I LOVE IT!!!
    Pros:
    1. Great look from address
    2. Great feel and sound

    Cons:
    1. Can't think of any lol

    I think we will see more of the ST190 on tour this year, for sure.

    Posted:
    Mizuno ST190 Driver 9.5*
    Taylormade 2016 M2 3 wood 15*
    Taylormade 2016 M1 Hybrid 18*
    Taylormade PSI Forged 4-PW
    Taylormade TP EF blk 52*
    Taylormade TP EF blk 56*
    Taylormade TP EF blk 60*
    Odyssey White Hot RX #2
    Callaway Chrome Soft
  • icandyicandy  231Members Posts: 231
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    @LCGALBERTA said:
    I haven't bagged a driver since 2015, but I finally purchased a ST190 this past weekend...WOW I LOVE IT!!!
    Pros:
    1. Great look from address
    2. Great feel and sound

    Cons:
    1. Can't think of any lol

    I think we will see more of the ST190 on tour this year, for sure.

    Awesome, can't wait for mine to arrive, any day now.

    Posted:
    Mizuno ST 190 9.5 VA Slay 65 S
    Titleist TS2 18 Accra FX200F M4
    Titleist 816H1 VA Slay 85 S
    Mizuno MP20 H-MB 4i - PW KBS $-Taper S
    Mizuno T7 52, 56, 60 - Nippon Modus 3 Wedge 115
    Areso E30S Putter
  • teedub21teedub21  116Members Posts: 116
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    Mine with Tensei Blue 60g has pushed my Ping G400 to the BST. Great driver!

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  • NDGolfer13NDGolfer13  1413Members Posts: 1,413
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    I started out with the Atmos TS 6x but put a Diamana x17 70x in it and its even better. I dont think its a lot longer but the dispersion is fantastic. Really good. I just picked up a 190G to try as well. Should be even lower spin.

    Posted:
    M5 Kiyoshi Purple
    TM M4 16.5 VA Composites Drago 75
    Epon AF901 19*/22*
    Mizuno 919 Forged or MCFliHi 5, MP69 6-P
    Scratch 1018 53/58
    Xenon Flowneck

    FOR NOW...........
    All Clubs subject to change relative to my last bad round of golf......
  • andyville99andyville99  490Members Posts: 490
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    With the stock shaft for the ST190 being the Atmos 5 (~55g), has anybody checked what the swingweight is at standard length with that shaft? I'm a little surprised Mizuno has gone with such a light shaft as the standard offering - chasing the swing speed/distance prize I guess! Anyway, just curious what the sw is with the stock shaft and what it might be with a ~65g shaft like the Atmos 6 or Tensei blue? I contacted Mizuno to see if they offer heavier weights to install in the head, and they said they don't - they said you'd need to apply lead tape to get the weight up. I like to play my driver at 44.5" and D-5 sw, so if it starts at let's say, D-2 at 45", then that's going to take a lot of lead tape! (not to mention the change to the cosmetics of a pretty good-looking driver!). Interestingly, Mizuno doesn't show the sw for the ST190 on their website - it just says Swingweight N/A... Any info you can share would be appreciated!

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  • bbfifasbbfifas  501Members Posts: 501
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    @andyville99 said:
    With the stock shaft for the ST190 being the Atmos 5 (~55g), has anybody checked what the swingweight is at standard length with that shaft? I'm a little surprised Mizuno has gone with such a light shaft as the standard offering - chasing the swing speed/distance prize I guess! Anyway, just curious what the sw is with the stock shaft and what it might be with a ~65g shaft like the Atmos 6 or Tensei blue? I contacted Mizuno to see if they offer heavier weights to install in the head, and they said they don't - they said you'd need to apply lead tape to get the weight up. I like to play my driver at 44.5" and D-5 sw, so if it starts at let's say, D-2 at 45", then that's going to take a lot of lead tape! (not to mention the change to the cosmetics of a pretty good-looking driver!). Interestingly, Mizuno doesn't show the sw for the ST190 on their website - it just says Swingweight N/A... Any info you can share would be appreciated!

    Theres a thread on this forum where someone has taken out the weight and changed them out. Check it out.

    Posted:
    Mizuno St190, 8.5*, Tensei White 70X shaft
    Cobra FLY Z+ 3 wood, orange, aldila tour blue stiff, 14.5*
    Taylormade V-Steel 5 wood, stock stiff
    Cobra F7 Hybrid 20* stiff Fuji Pro 75
    Cobra Forged Tec 5-PW, KBS C-taper lite stiff
    Cleveland CBX 50*, 115g DG
    place holder - currently 56* ATV wedge
    Vokey 58M
    Scotty Select Newport, 73* lie, 1* loft, 34"
    Bridegstone Tour BX

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  • OknowsOknows  1177Members Posts: 1,177
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    Hit the ST190 yesterday. Surprisingly forgiving, but the sound and feel are amazing. Longer than my 400 max and I haven't really tuned it in yet. Might need to add some weight to the head, but we'll see. Definitely going to get an extended look.

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    Ping G410 Plus 9* w/ Diamana W 70x
    Ping G 3 wood @ 16.5 w/ Tour 80
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC w/ Nippon Modus 120
    Ping Glide 2.0 54* w/ DG s400
    Ping Glide 2.0 58* w/ DG s400
    SC Circa 62 #3
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