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Tiger Roars Again: Golf's Greatest Comeback Is Complete
Tiger’s stunning comeback win at Augusta wasn’t just a golfer finding his way. It was about a 43-year-old man becoming the person he wanted to be—and all of us soaking in the glory.
https://www.si.com/golf/2019/04/15/tiger-woods-wins-masters-golf-greatest-comeback-green-jacket

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  • PZeroPZero Members Posts: 11,550 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @bladehunter said:
    Perfect picture.

    With Tiger you get these kinds of covers showing the celebration. With Spieth and Brooks we got pics of them teeing off on some random hole because their celebrations are weak. I've seen people happier making the cut than Brooks did winning the US Open.

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    @PZero said:

    @bladehunter said:
    Perfect picture.

    With Tiger you get these kinds of covers showing the celebration. With Spieth and Brooks we got pics of them teeing off on some random hole because their celebrations are weak. I've seen people happier making the cut than Brooks did winning the US Open.

    But I think the 2001 cover of Tiger Slam was pretty amazing. They had perfect camera angle behind 18th tee box going through that narrow gap in the trees. Gives pretty good perspective on how scary that tee shot would be for a typical amateur player.

    https://www.golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tigersicover11_0.jpg

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  • Titleist 670Titleist 670 Members Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @PZero said:

    @bladehunter said:
    Perfect picture.

    With Tiger you get these kinds of covers showing the celebration. With Spieth and Brooks we got pics of them teeing off on some random hole because their celebrations are weak. I've seen people happier making the cut than Brooks did winning the US Open.

    Didn't Spieth go ape when he won in Connecticut after holing out from the bunker?
    Brooks is a robot, and I think DJ dumped an eagle to win and barely reacted, but Spieth has a little fire in him.

  • PZeroPZero Members Posts: 11,550 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Apr 16, 2019 11:36pm #8

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @PZero said:

    @bladehunter said:
    Perfect picture.

    With Tiger you get these kinds of covers showing the celebration. With Spieth and Brooks we got pics of them teeing off on some random hole because their celebrations are weak. I've seen people happier making the cut than Brooks did winning the US Open.

    But I think the 2001 cover of Tiger Slam was pretty amazing. They had perfect camera angle behind 18th tee box going through that narrow gap in the trees. Gives pretty good perspective on how scary that tee shot would be for a typical amateur player.

    https://www.golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tigersicover11_0.jpg

    They do that shot for everyone.

    Here is Nicklaus in 1986

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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,137 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    You're right, the back injuries were 100% his intentional doing with zero coincidence whatsoever.

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,137 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    You're right, the back injuries were 100% his intentional doing with zero coincidence whatsoever.

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    Which downturn are you talking about? He was ranked #1 in the world when the back injuries started happening in late summer 2013. Won 5 times in 2013 (with a PLAYERS Championship) and 3 times in 2012. He had already come back from the adultery scandal that you are referring to. That was 2009 and by 2012-2013 he had become one of the best players on the planet again, the most consistent player on the planet according to the World Rankings system.

    Beginning in 1996 through 2007 he averaged 5 wins a year. Since 2008, he averaged 1.7 (ish) wins per year (not counting this year because it isn't over yet). The point of departure is rather telling, I think. He has been in a quagmire since 2008, with a bright spot in the early 2010's that went away just as quick as it came. He hadn't won a major in 11 years until this last weekend. In my book, that is an 11 year slump. A "comeback" that is over before it began, followed immediately with four winless years is not a comeback. Not going to argue if others have a different opinion.

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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,137 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @ray9898 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    So the question now is are you purposely lying or are you really just clueless about the topic?

    What is it you think I am lying about?

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  • hell_is_chromehell_is_chrome Members Posts: 994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    You're right, the back injuries were 100% his intentional doing with zero coincidence whatsoever.

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    Which downturn are you talking about? He was ranked #1 in the world when the back injuries started happening in late summer 2013. Won 5 times in 2013 (with a PLAYERS Championship) and 3 times in 2012. He had already come back from the adultery scandal that you are referring to. That was 2009 and by 2012-2013 he had become one of the best players on the planet again, the most consistent player on the planet according to the World Rankings system.

    Beginning in 1996 through 2007 he averaged 5 wins a year. Since 2008, he averaged 1.7 (ish) wins per year (not counting this year because it isn't over yet). The point of departure is rather telling, I think. He has been in a quagmire since 2008, with a bright spot in the early 2010's that went away just as quick as it came. He hadn't won a major in 11 years until this last weekend. In my book, that is an 11 year slump. A "comeback" that is over before it began, followed immediately with four winless years is not a comeback. Not going to argue if others have a different opinion.

    So you think the injuries that started in 2013 had zero to do with his golf performance from 2014 through 2017? I don't know what else to say to that. The dude was contending in majors in 2013. Won the so-called 5th major at the PLAYERS Championship. Won a WGC event by 7 shots in August that year and around that time is when the injuries started. Now if you want to blame Sean Foley's swing motion for Tiger's injuries, be my guest...although Justin Rose has worked with Foley a long time and never had this issue.

    Rosie has had back issues. So has Hunter Mahan. Two high profile Foley students. And I remember teachers on this website saying before it happened that Tiger would have back problems because of that swing.

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    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    You're right, the back injuries were 100% his intentional doing with zero coincidence whatsoever.

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    Which downturn are you talking about? He was ranked #1 in the world when the back injuries started happening in late summer 2013. Won 5 times in 2013 (with a PLAYERS Championship) and 3 times in 2012. He had already come back from the adultery scandal that you are referring to. That was 2009 and by 2012-2013 he had become one of the best players on the planet again, the most consistent player on the planet according to the World Rankings system.

    Beginning in 1996 through 2007 he averaged 5 wins a year. Since 2008, he averaged 1.7 (ish) wins per year (not counting this year because it isn't over yet). The point of departure is rather telling, I think. He has been in a quagmire since 2008, with a bright spot in the early 2010's that went away just as quick as it came. He hadn't won a major in 11 years until this last weekend. In my book, that is an 11 year slump. A "comeback" that is over before it began, followed immediately with four winless years is not a comeback. Not going to argue if others have a different opinion.

    So you think the injuries that started in 2013 had zero to do with his golf performance from 2014 through 2017? I don't know what else to say to that. The dude was contending in majors in 2013. Won the so-called 5th major at the PLAYERS Championship. Won a WGC event by 7 shots in August that year and around that time is when the injuries started. Now if you want to blame Sean Foley's swing motion for Tiger's injuries, be my guest...although Justin Rose has worked with Foley a long time and never had this issue.

    I wouldn't blame Foley. Tiger went to Foley and got a Foley swing, which didn't work for him like it did others. No harm, no foul. Just something that didn't work. I do think being injured played a part as well, although I doubt he was as hurt as the talking heads would have us think. I think some aspects of that were legitimate, but others I think had more to do with protecting the brand than an accurate portrayal of the truth. Nonetheless, his troubles (in my opinion) have stretched over an 11 year period, and not just the last few years. What kicked it off was his own fault. Not a popular opinion, perhaps, but if it carries no merit, I am sure others won't feel obliged to respond to it. :)

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    @hell_is_chrome said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @ray9898 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    So the question now is are you purposely lying or are you really just clueless about the topic?

    What is it you think I am lying about?

    From what I can see, all of it.

    I guess I don't understand what you are getting at, but that is okay.

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  • redfirebird08redfirebird08 Members Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited Apr 17, 2019 12:27am #23

    @hell_is_chrome said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    You're right, the back injuries were 100% his intentional doing with zero coincidence whatsoever.

    That is what people think started the downturn? How quickly the fandom forgets...

    Which downturn are you talking about? He was ranked #1 in the world when the back injuries started happening in late summer 2013. Won 5 times in 2013 (with a PLAYERS Championship) and 3 times in 2012. He had already come back from the adultery scandal that you are referring to. That was 2009 and by 2012-2013 he had become one of the best players on the planet again, the most consistent player on the planet according to the World Rankings system.

    Beginning in 1996 through 2007 he averaged 5 wins a year. Since 2008, he averaged 1.7 (ish) wins per year (not counting this year because it isn't over yet). The point of departure is rather telling, I think. He has been in a quagmire since 2008, with a bright spot in the early 2010's that went away just as quick as it came. He hadn't won a major in 11 years until this last weekend. In my book, that is an 11 year slump. A "comeback" that is over before it began, followed immediately with four winless years is not a comeback. Not going to argue if others have a different opinion.

    So you think the injuries that started in 2013 had zero to do with his golf performance from 2014 through 2017? I don't know what else to say to that. The dude was contending in majors in 2013. Won the so-called 5th major at the PLAYERS Championship. Won a WGC event by 7 shots in August that year and around that time is when the injuries started. Now if you want to blame Sean Foley's swing motion for Tiger's injuries, be my guest...although Justin Rose has worked with Foley a long time and never had this issue.

    Rosie has had back issues. So has Hunter Mahan. Two high profile Foley students. And I remember teachers on this website saying before it happened that Tiger would have back problems because of that swing.

    OK, so maybe Rose has not had it to the same extreme that Tiger has had it. I don't remember Rose needing fusion surgery as a Hail Mary last ditch effort following several failed back surgeries. In any event, I am glad Tiger has finally taken ownership of his golf swing instead of relying on instructors. He knows more about what his fragile body is capable of these days than any swing coach could ever tell him.

  • Pinging77Pinging77 NMMembers Posts: 191 ✭✭✭

    Certainly celebrate his amazing comeback from what appeared to be career ending physical problems (many of which were self inflicted from off course activities like Seal training).. I hope everyone doesn’t get carried away and pronounce him a outstanding person. Yes he is friendlier and more media savvy than he was in his prime. But nothing he will ever do can wipe away the fact that he endangered his wife and mother of his children every time he went on his frequent unprotected intercourse dalliances and returned home..

    Probably the greatest golfer of all time but no where near admirable off the course. Celebrate his fantastic achievement but don’t assign off the course the old golden child, all American family man BS the media was selling years ago to him prior to 2009..

  • redfirebird08redfirebird08 Members Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pinging77 said:
    Certainly celebrate his amazing comeback from what appeared to be career ending physical problems (many of which were self inflicted from off course activities like Seal training).. I hope everyone doesn’t get carried away and pronounce him a outstanding person. Yes he is friendlier and more media savvy than he was in his prime. But nothing he will ever do can wipe away the fact that he endangered his wife and mother of his children every time he went on his frequent unprotected intercourse dalliances and returned home..

    Probably the greatest golfer of all time but no where near admirable off the course. Celebrate his fantastic achievement but don’t assign off the course the old golden child, all American family man BS the media was selling years ago to him prior to 2009..

    Endangered the children too...possible STD's passed on to them if he picked up something from the mistresses and then gave it to the wife.

  • gioguy21gioguy21 NJMembers Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pinging77 said:
    Certainly celebrate his amazing comeback from what appeared to be career ending physical problems (many of which were self inflicted from off course activities like Seal training).. I hope everyone doesn’t get carried away and pronounce him a outstanding person. Yes he is friendlier and more media savvy than he was in his prime. But nothing he will ever do can wipe away the fact that he endangered his wife and mother of his children every time he went on his frequent unprotected intercourse dalliances and returned home..

    Probably the greatest golfer of all time but no where near admirable off the course. Celebrate his fantastic achievement but don’t assign off the course the old golden child, all American family man BS the media was selling years ago to him prior to 2009..

    i've explained it to people this way -- i don't have to like the person he is off the course; but between those lines, he's arguably the greatest golfer of all time. i give him the credit where credit is due for that -- b/c having played competitive golf and seeing some of the shots he's hit in his lifetime, in person - he deserves at least that.

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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 20,137 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @ray9898 said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:

    What is it you think I am lying about?

    No need in me retyping everything above. You were shown by several posters his exact record for those years which shows he continued to be successful up and to the point his physical injuries became apparent. You are trying to connect it to something else for what I can only assume is some personal agenda which you doubled down on by minimizing the severity of his back issues.

    I'm not sure what you think people have shown me?
    5 wins on average per year from 1996 till 2008. 1-2 wins per year since then. If I am missing anything, it perhaps could be that others think that one outlier year out of 11 is the same as saying "nuh-uh!"

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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct Members Posts: 27,294 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    I know. Enough with TWs "journey".

    Im more interested in Rochelle's strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk ; )

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    @bscinstnct said:

    @MadGolfer76 said:
    Come back from what?
    It isn't like life had it out for him. He made his own problems. Why are we giving people a pat on the head for doing what is expected of them anyway?

    I know. Enough with TWs "journey".

    Im more interested in Rochelle's strange, erotic journey from Milan to Minsk ; )

    The two topics probably connect at some point. ;)

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  • redfirebird08redfirebird08 Members Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @PZero said:

    @redfirebird08 said:

    @PZero said:

    @bladehunter said:
    Perfect picture.

    With Tiger you get these kinds of covers showing the celebration. With Spieth and Brooks we got pics of them teeing off on some random hole because their celebrations are weak. I've seen people happier making the cut than Brooks did winning the US Open.

    But I think the 2001 cover of Tiger Slam was pretty amazing. They had perfect camera angle behind 18th tee box going through that narrow gap in the trees. Gives pretty good perspective on how scary that tee shot would be for a typical amateur player.

    https://www.golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tigersicover11_0.jpg

    They do that shot for everyone.

    Here is Nicklaus in 1986

    That's an awesome photo from 1986. Thank you for posting it. :)

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