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How do the arms work after transition

 TIM929 ·  
TIM929TIM929 Los Angeles 1105Members Posts: 1,105
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Hi Everyone,

my left shoulder get's really high before and at impact and I don't think the below is how the arms are suppose to look at impact.
Is my right arm suppose to unfold more at impact? Am I lacking arm action in the down swing?

Here is my swing:

Just trying to see what I'm thinking is correct.
Thanks in advance.

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  • TMoakley1547TMoakley1547  171Members Posts: 171
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    All I see is a shut clubface at the top of your swing. That may be contributing to the way your arms look at impact. You have to be opening it up somehow.

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  • Nard_SNard_S  3621Members Posts: 3,621
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    Well, left shoulder is part of it. Too high at top and never gets away from head. Need to work it down more in back swing and peel it away from head while keeping it low.

    You know I used to watch a lot of baseball but don't much these days. But last night was watching and pitchers get lead shoulder high and it hit same point with trail throw shoulder. Golf is the opposite, Get lead low and trail hits same low thru rotation. OTT is natural instinct, going lead high also has an ingrained instinct. So there's probably more issues that a knowledgable Pro can point out but I can say this work on shoulder plane back and thru.

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  • chigolfer1chigolfer1  1214Members Posts: 1,214
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    @Nard_S said:
    Well, left shoulder is part of it. Too high at top and never gets away from head. Need to work it down more in back swing and peel it away from head while keeping it low.

    You know I used to watch a lot of baseball but don't much these days. But last night was watching and pitchers get lead shoulder high and it hit same point with trail throw shoulder. Golf is the opposite, Get lead low and trail hits same low thru rotation. OTT is natural instinct, going lead high also has an ingrained instinct. So there's probably more issues that a knowledgable Pro can point out but I can say this work on shoulder plane back and thru.

    In what sense is his left shoulder too high at the top of backswing?

    I will say I've never seen someone's right leg straighten so quickly in a backswing. No idea if that's really an issue here or not so I'll wait for the experts to opine.

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  • Fairways_and_GreensFairways_and_Greens Washington State 831Members Posts: 831
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    What's your ball flight like and where is the miss?

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    @TMoakley1547 said:
    All I see is a shut clubface at the top of your swing. That may be contributing to the way your arms look at impact. You have to be opening it up somehow.

    By pivoting through the shot.

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  • ferrispgmferrispgm  1992Members Posts: 1,992
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    The amount your right arm unfolds is dependent on a lot on body measurements. Looks like you need your rear/right shoulder to work more out and around your body. When it works as vertically as yours it forces your hands to do a lot to square the face and also to try and shallow the club. I'm guessing at some point you worked hard at swinging to right field to hit a draw?????

    Also...unless i'm seeing things....your lower body turn is complete almost before you start your arms/shoulders in the backswing. That is going to make a mess out of your transition sequence. Your arms, hands, shoulders should start a little before your lower body as they have much longer to go.

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  • Nard_SNard_S  3621Members Posts: 3,621
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    @chigolfer1 said:

    @Nard_S said:
    Well, left shoulder is part of it. Too high at top and never gets away from head. Need to work it down more in back swing and peel it away from head while keeping it low.

    You know I used to watch a lot of baseball but don't much these days. But last night was watching and pitchers get lead shoulder high and it hit same point with trail throw shoulder. Golf is the opposite, Get lead low and trail hits same low thru rotation. OTT is natural instinct, going lead high also has an ingrained instinct. So there's probably more issues that a knowledgable Pro can point out but I can say this work on shoulder plane back and thru.

    In what sense is his left shoulder too high at the top of backswing?

    I will say I've never seen someone's right leg straighten so quickly in a backswing. No idea if that's really an issue here or not so I'll wait for the experts to opine.

    High in relation to right. Off plane a bit not tragic but makes it harder to go low and keep low coming back. He can live with it but I'm seeing head welded to shoulder in transition and trail shoulder crashing. Have to address left side to allow right shoulder to do proper thing. Been there and at times still am.

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  • MonteScheinblumMonteScheinblum Rebellion Golf Southern California 18574Members Posts: 18,574
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    Your left knee comes out early. It’s supposed to happen as a result of the hips rotating. Yours comes out actively and throws everything off the rest of the backswing.

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    @Fairways_and_Greens said:
    What's your ball flight like and where is the miss?

    High draw and misses are hooks.

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  • TIM929TIM929 Los Angeles 1105Members Posts: 1,105
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    @ferrispgm said:
    The amount your right arm unfolds is dependent on a lot on body measurements. Looks like you need your rear/right shoulder to work more out and around your body. When it works as vertically as yours it forces your hands to do a lot to square the face and also to try and shallow the club. I'm guessing at some point you worked hard at swinging to right field to hit a draw?????

    Also...unless i'm seeing things....your lower body turn is complete almost before you start your arms/shoulders in the backswing. That is going to make a mess out of your transition sequence. Your arms, hands, shoulders should start a little before your lower body as they have much longer to go.

    I never swung to right field but I did have to work hard on adding flexion hard to my wrist to stop the hook and produce a draw.

    Thanks for the heads up on sequence, it really helped.

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  • TIM929TIM929 Los Angeles 1105Members Posts: 1,105
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    @MonteScheinblum said:
    Your left knee comes out early. It’s supposed to happen as a result of the hips rotating. Yours comes out actively and throws everything off the rest of the backswing.

    Thank you so much Monte, the above really helped free up my swing + bump, dump, turn (I only get to dump and the ball is gone) = Solid swing feel/ contact.

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    Titleist SM7 60.12D                        DG S400                           Tour Velvet plus4 1 wraps
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  • TIM929TIM929 Los Angeles 1105Members Posts: 1,105
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    Was at the range work today after all the help from this discussion and I was getting some solid contact.

    Thank you so much everyone. Heck yeah.

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    Titleist TS3 19*    Hybrid                 HZRDUS SMOKE 6.0       Tour Velvet std 
    Titleist 716 TMB  4-P                      DG S300                          Tour Velvet Align 2 wraps  
    Titleist SM7 52.12F (bent to 49.10) DG S400                         Tour Velvet plus4 1 wraps
    Titleist SM7 56.10S                         DG S400                          Tour Velvet plus4 1 wraps
    Titleist SM7 60.12D                        DG S400                           Tour Velvet plus4 1 wraps
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