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upsups  156Members Posts: 156
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Just curious as to anyone’s preference regarding an insert in Cameron putters and what you like and don’t like.

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  • GolfdoctorGolfdoctor  1425Members Posts: 1,425
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    I didn't like the feel of the aluminum thin insert at all, it just didn't have that soft feel. Now, I do have to say I do like the New Phantom X putters with the thicker aluminum face, very soft. I think next year when Scotty comes out with the new blades, they will have a thicker aluminum face. A few years back Scotty made a all aluminum mallet called the Futura X with four weights, one in each corner. This putter was so soft feeling that people thought at first it was carbon steel. I have a Newport 2 Mid Slant Stainless Steel model which I really enjoy using, but I did like the feel of the New Phantom X better.

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  • deep18deep18  2028Members Posts: 2,028
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    I like his non insert putters better for the most part. I did like the first gen Red X with the GSS inserts however and of course anything with the TEi3.

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  • KaTooMKaTooM Woodway, Texas 1439Members Posts: 1,439
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    Never been a fan of the newer ones. However, absolutely love the TeI3 inserts.

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  • titleistforgedtitleistforged why try when you can buy SF Bay Area 206Members Posts: 206
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    I had a Studio Style with the GSS insert and just felt that the feel was poor. I know people on here herald it, but it wasn't for me. I then had the 2014 Newport, but sold it. The fully milled face is just much better imo. My current Scotty is the Duval, which also has no insert. It's just the way to go for me.

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  • MattMoMattMo  2385Members Posts: 2,385
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    Doesn’t an insert take away the solid feel of a milled putter? Isn’t the solid feel most of the draw!? I’ve always thought so, with the exception of the TeI3.

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  • DivinDaveDivinDave Longview Texas 580Members Posts: 580
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    I dont like the insert. The insert to me feels like the ball is a softer off the face and I cant tell how hard to hit the ball and have any consistency. The milled face are more my style and feel.

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  • jokerusnjokerusn nice shoes Northern NJ 4881ClubWRX Posts: 4,881
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    TeI3 insert - definitely yes! (Including button back)
    All other inserts - no.

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  • Drew9281Drew9281  7Members Posts: 7
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    Non- inserts just feel better. I have 10 Scotty’s all non inserts.

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  • oneaugustaoneaugusta  3087Members Posts: 3,087
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    Non Insert for sure, 100% milled, with the exception of the TEI3 insert, especially the 1st gen. ones are great feeling.

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  • dhartmann34dhartmann34  706Members Posts: 706
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    Not a fan of the inserts whatsoever. That's why I'll keep my Newport 2 Pro Platinum in my bag for another 20 years!

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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro AL 3330ClubWRX Posts: 3,330
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    The inserts are horrible. Even his tour pros won’t use them... except for the mallets because they don’t have an option in those.

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  • MalcontentMalcontent  10Members Posts: 10
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    The only Scotty insert I've liked is the Tel3 on my button back Newport. I wasn't that crazy about the GSS one in the Studio Style line, and I definitely don't like the current ones.

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  • Jack PearsallJack Pearsall  3458Members Posts: 3,458
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    The softest Cameron he’s owned was a studio design 2.5? The flow neck one. Lovely Carbon steel, very very light milling.
    But now he uses a Newport longneck tei3 for the quasi face balance and it’s better for lag putting for JP.

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  • JDW3JDW3  640Members Posts: 640
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    I prefer no insert. The fully milled face feels better to me.

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  • dags27dags27  894Members Posts: 894
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    Non insert, it feels solid to me and love feel. I tried the insert scotty and did not care for it.

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  • Jaygolf37Jaygolf37 All Go. No Quit.  686Members Posts: 686
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    I don’t mind being the odd one here. I love the insert in both my Fastback & my 5.5m. They are responsive, have good acoustics, and look good. Each to their own, however!

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  • joakimpekkarijoakimpekkari Barsebäck G&CC, Sweden 18Members Posts: 18
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    Love the feel of the insert in my Studio Style Newport 2. Seeing the outline from above helps me find the center of the face more consistently as well.

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  • towncryertowncryer  427Members Posts: 427
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    No inserts. Ever.
    I don't think Scotty has put out a production putter that has felt/sound GREAT since the first California line...light milling on stainless is perfect. Deep milling is muddy/muted. Inserts feel/sound dead to me.

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  • RogerinNewZealandRogerinNewZealand Maungakeikei Auckland New Zealand 2639Members Posts: 2,639
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    Non Insert old Scotty. Astounding the overall opinion here rejects the New. TEI3 will always be a much loved putter!

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  • scottc25scottc25  662Members Posts: 662
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    I'm a rare bird that likes the current insert. Hopefully that means cheaper prices on the BST forum too. Will be interested to see what they do next year.

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  • tsecortsecor Loading........  4490Members Posts: 4,490
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    ive had both and without the insert is a much more "real" feel which I think is important when putting . Not to say the insert is bad, but I think as you remain in the club making game for many years, you have to find "gimmicks" and pass them off as "technology" so you can keep selling units.....the insert is fine, but it feels a little "dead" to me. in fact I'm having trouble selling a mint 2016 Newport 2 for a decent price because of the insert

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  • NJGolfer0624NJGolfer0624  235Members Posts: 235
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    Without PLEASE!!!!
    Still like my 2014 Select Newport 2

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    On -, @towncryer said:

    No inserts. Ever.
    I don't think Scotty has put out a production putter that has felt/sound GREAT since the first California line...light milling on stainless is perfect. Deep milling is muddy/muted. Inserts feel/sound dead to me.

    The 2012/14 line has great feel.

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  • towncryertowncryer  427Members Posts: 427
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    On -, @NJGolfer0624 said:

    On -, @towncryer said:

    No inserts. Ever.
    I don't think Scotty has put out a production putter that has felt/sound GREAT since the first California line...light milling on stainless is perfect. Deep milling is muddy/muted. Inserts feel/sound dead to me.

    The 2012/14 line has great feel.

    I stand by it...muddy/muted sound and feel on deep milled putters. If you're into soft sound/feel, 2012/14 are awesome...and they're great looking putters, to boot! But, for me...I like the firmer responds from light milling on stainless or carbon.

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    Non-Insert~

    Though I’ve gotta bunch, including a few T’s/customs with both insert and w/out, this is my All-Timer, one of 99 produced.

    The feel is sublime

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  • Chip2winChip2win  28Members Posts: 28
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    I'm an insert hater too. However, it seems like that's all Scotty offers. Is it possible to buy a new scotty Newport 2 without the insert (without being a tour pro)?

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  • PreppySlapCutPreppySlapCut This is just babytown frolics...  6484Members Posts: 6,484
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    Mine has a deeper pocket and is almost fly-milled, so it has a nice click at impact. I like the feedback.

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  • ratdg1ratdg1 Columbus, OH 325Members Posts: 325
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    I've only tried the GSS inserts and the current Select models, but I can't tell any difference, tbh.
    What's weird is that the putters I like the least are the California honey dip. They feel too springy. Almost like a trampoline or something. Not sure why that'd be the case.

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  • tbrumbeloe13tbrumbeloe13 Georgia 711Members Posts: 711
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    I feel like I agree with most of the others on here. I'm not a huge fan of the inserts. I hit a couple today in the store for fun, and when I hit it in the middle, it felt very soft, almost too soft to where judging speed could be an issue. I've always preferred the milled face, just because the feel is more consistent all the way across the face.

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    On -, @Chip2win said:

    I'm an insert hater too. However, it seems like that's all Scotty offers. Is it possible to buy a new scotty Newport 2 without the insert (without being a tour pro)?

    Doesn't seem like it. Only options seem to be to find one on ebay or buy one from the SC Gallery for a ridiculous price. I really thought he would've put out some milled putters this last range, hopefully the next time around.

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