Zurich Classic of New Orleans

[flushem]

Roster:

https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/zurich-classic-of-new-orleans/field.html

 

The odds to come.

[Darth Putter]

The host course is TPC Louisiana in Avondale. A Pete Dye design that plays to 7425 yards and a par of 72.

The Fed Ex Points are the same as normal, but the points are an average of each position. The first place team gets average of the first place and second place points of 500 and 300 or 400 each.

The purse is $7,500,000 the winning team will each get the average of the combined total of the first and second place checks.

80 teams of two will get to the low 35 teams and ties for the weekend.

The teams will play better ball on Thursday and Saturday.

The teams will play alternate shot on Friday and Sunday.

There are no OWGR points awarded this week.

Both winners DO get a two year exemption and a spot in the Tournament of Champions, TPC and PGA Championship.

They DO NOT get a spot in The Masters.

 

 

There WILL NOT be a quiz on this later

[Christosterone]

I’ve played that course a few times....

Pre-Katrina and post Katrina with a gazillion less trees...

 

I like it both times....has very unique coffin sized bunkers with huge humps...

Very easy to avoid but really cool looking....

 

Super fun course and I don’t think it was more than $130 (if memory serves)

I actually preferred the Nicklaus course they used to play it on but the TPC is very cool and super affordable...

 

-Chris

[flushem]

Zurich Classic

 

J Day/A Scott 7/1

T Fleetwood/S Garcia 8/1

P Cantlay/P Reed 12/1

R Palmer/J Rahm 16/1

B Horschel/S Piercy 18/1

J.B. Holmes/B Watson 18/1

T Finau/K Stanley 18/1

G McDowell/H Stenson 20/1

L Oosthuizen/C Schwartzel 25/1

S Brown/K Kisner 30/1

A Ancer/J Vegas 30/1

[cdnglf]

Shilgy to complain about team events counting as an official win in 3,2,1...

?

[flushem]

L Glover/C Reavie 30/1

S Horsfield/I Poulter 40/1

C Hoffman/N Watney 40/1

B Koepka/C Koepka 40/1

A Baddeley/A Hadwin 40/1

P Harrington/S Lowry 40/1

B Grace/J Harding 40/1

J Kokrak/C Stroud 40/1

J Blixt/Cameron Smith 40/1

J Dufner/P Perez 50/1

D Frittelli/J Niemann 50/1

S Burns/C Champ 50/1

R Knox/B Stuard 50/1

T Mullinax/S Stallings 60/1

B Harman/P Kizzire 60/1

M Jones/J.J. Spaun 60/1

L Donald/B Steele 60/1

C Conners/M Hughes 60/1

S Im/W Kim 60/1

B Gay/R Sabbatini 60/1

K Streelman/V Taylor 80/1

B Garnett/C Hadley 80/1

M Laird/N Taylor 80/1

S Bae/S W Kim 80/1

S Kang/D Lee 80/1

M Kim/C.T. Pan 80/1

[Shilgy]

> @cdnglf said:

> Shilgy to complain about team events counting as an official win in 3,2,1...

> ?

 

Sure I'll bite. Do I think they should count? Nope. Should the tour at least be consistent and count World Cups won by Couples and Love, Duval and Woods and others? Yep.

 

Seems odd to get an "official"win but no ranking points. Might as well go whole hog if your going to call it a win.

 

:)

[KrazyTrain18]

Not sure I can enjoy golf coverage after the Masters ability to see every shot from every player ;)

[2putttom]

Hmmmmm :/

[Darth Putter]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @cdnglf said:

> > Shilgy to complain about team events counting as an official win in 3,2,1...

> > ?

>

> Sure I'll bite. Do I think they should count? Nope. Should the tour at least be consistent and count World Cups won by Couples and Love, Duval and Woods and others? Yep.

>

> Seems odd to get an "official"win but no ranking points. Might as well go whole hog if your going to call it a win.

>

> :)

 

Sam Snead could use 4 more wins.

Couples and Love get 4 more too.

Jack and Arnie would benefit the most with 6 more PGA Tour wins.

 

 

[tiderider]

shilgy's right! ... shouldn't be a win, and i don't agree with the decision to give PGA, TPC & T of C ... just don't think a team event warrants PGA Championship status, or the other two ... maybe a 1 year exemption? ... or some type of extra-status role for the rest of the year or the next year ... most of the teams are PGA pros, so the 'status' question doesn't really affect them ... brooks' brother doesn't deserve tour status if he can't get there on his own ... and qualifying for the other tournaments should be individual, not team ... but, i do like the format ... not much else the tournament could've done to get some names in there and hold onto its place on the tour ...

[cdnglf]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @cdnglf said:

> > Shilgy to complain about team events counting as an official win in 3,2,1...

> > ?

>

> Sure I'll bite. Do I think they should count? Nope. Should the tour at least be consistent and count World Cups won by Couples and Love, Duval and Woods and others? Yep.

>

> Seems odd to get an "official"win but no ranking points. Might as well go whole hog if your going to call it a win.

>

> :)

 

Not sure there is a perfect answer. It would be very weird to count it as an official event, give out official prize money, Fedex points, and exemptions, but not count it as a win.

 

I agree that it feels like the winners of the old WGC team event get shortchanged, but they aren't the only ones. For a while, the Tour had a crazy rule that the China WGC only counted as a PGA Tour win if the winner was a current PGA Tour member. Retroactively changing the list of official wins is too confusing - I know they did it for the Open Championship, but it seemed it took years for everyone to get on the same page.

 

Also, there's already a lot of variation in what counts as a win anyway. Is winning a team event really less of an accomplishment than beating ~30 guys at Kapalua, or winning an opposite field event?

 

[Golfjack]

I'm just sad we are not seeing a MoliWood rehash. Guess Molinari is still primarily a Euro Tour player or needs a break after the Masters and not playing well at RBC.

Brooks is looking to carry his brother to the PGA. Whether it's fair or not, it's a really cool thing to do for your brother. If it was me I'd do it too. Sometimes they just need a break.

[bspn]

So does each player get to pick their partner irrespective of whether that partner has status? It seems crazy to me that a guy like Chase Koepka could backdoor his way onto the PGA Tour because his brother has a hot week ...

[grm24]

> @bspn said:

> So does each player get to pick their partner irrespective of whether that partner has status? It seems crazy to me that a guy like Chase Koepka could backdoor his way onto the PGA Tour because his brother has a hot week ...

Yes players get to pick their partner. Chase Koepka is playing on a sponsors exemption. The same as 2017.

[Darth Putter]

> @bspn said:

> So does each player get to pick their partner irrespective of whether that partner has status? It seems crazy to me that a guy like Chase Koepka could backdoor his way onto the PGA Tour because his brother has a hot week ...

 

from PGA Tour.com...

 

 

FIELD: The starting field will consist of 80 teams (160 players). Each of the top available players from the PGA TOUR Priority Rankings who commits to the tournament will choose his partner, who in turn must have PGA TOUR status unless he is chosen as a tournament sponsor exemption.

 

Chase Koepka is in on a sponsor's exemption. And yes I imagine one given to him so they could get Brooks Koepka to show up.

[bspn]

Fair enough I guess as the sponsor is writing the check, but I don't think a non-exempt player should be given 2 year exempt status for a win as it's very different to an individual victory.

[grm24]

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> > @Shilgy said:

> > > @cdnglf said:

> > > Shilgy to complain about team events counting as an official win in 3,2,1...

> > > ?

> >

> > Sure I'll bite. Do I think they should count? Nope. Should the tour at least be consistent and count World Cups won by Couples and Love, Duval and Woods and others? Yep.

> >

> > Seems odd to get an "official"win but no ranking points. Might as well go whole hog if your going to call it a win.

> >

> > :)

>

> Sam Snead could use 4 more wins.

> Couples and Love get 4 more too.

> Jack and Arnie would benefit the most with 6 more PGA Tour wins.

>

>

What's interesting and often over looked is that Jack and Arnie have two team wins counted in their offical win totals from their pairing in the National Team Championship in 1970 & 1971 that was an official event on the PGA Tour during that time. The won it in 1966 as well but it was not an official event. The PGA Tour also had a team event at the old Walt Disney event from 1974-81 that counted as an official win for each player.

 

As for the Canada Cup/World Cup of Golf it was never considered an official PGA Tour event. The wins should not count as official. There is no reason for it to be an official PGA Tour event. Not sure how it could have ever been considered an official tour event since the PGA/PGA Tour never ran the event with with most years only two PGA Tour players were in the event.

[Darth Putter]

One of the more controversial teams withdrew on Monday, Steve Stricker and Jerry Kelly. The Senior Tour is also playing a team event this week, The Legends of Golf. Having a Senior Tour team play on the regular tour the same week raised a few eyebrows.

[grm24]

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> One of the more controversial teams withdrew on Monday, Steve Stricker and Jerry Kelly. The Senior Tour is also playing a team event this week, The Legends of Golf. Having a Senior Tour team play on the regular tour the same week raised a few eyebrows.

Why would it raise a few eyebrows? Stricker/Kelly played this event the last two years. The fact that this year it's opposite the team event on The Champions Tour shouldn't matter. Especially since Stricker is fully exempt on the PGA Tour this year and Kelly has partial status under category 35. Stricker, VJ and other senior tour players regularly play PGA Tour events that have a CT event the same week.

 

ETA: Stricker/Kelly withdrew to Stricker having an illness.

[grm24]

> @bspn said:

> Fair enough I guess as the sponsor is writing the check, but I don't think a non-exempt player should be given 2 year exempt status for a win as it's very different to an individual victory.

 

I can see your argument but other players in this event the last two years that are/were not PGA Tour players at the time were given sponsor exemptions into the event. This year Dru Love got an exemption to the event. Paired with his dad. Ryan Ruffels did as well the last two years (paired with Kyle Stanley & Jason Day). It's not just Chase Koepka.

[cdnglf]

> @grm24 said:

 

> As for the Canada Cup/World Cup of Golf it was never considered an official PGA Tour event. The wins should not count as official. There is no reason for it to be an official PGA Tour event. Not sure how it could have ever been considered an official tour event since the PGA/PGA Tour never ran the event with with most years only two PGA Tour players were in the event.

 

For a few years, it was a WGC. The other WGC's count as both a European and a PGA Tour win.

 

Except the China WGC, which in its first year as a WGC didn't count as PGA Tour win (sorry, Phil). Then it did count as a PGA Tour win, but only if the winner was a PGA Tour member (sorry, Kaymer and Molinari). Then it finally did count as a PGA Tour win, regardless of the winner's status.

 

None of this stuff is tidy.

[dropkicked]

> @flushem said:

> L Glover/C Reavie 30/1

> S Horsfield/I Poulter 40/1

> C Hoffman/N Watney 40/1

> B Koepka/C Koepka 40/1

> A Baddeley/A Hadwin 40/1

> P Harrington/S Lowry 40/1

> B Grace/J Harding 40/1

> J Kokrak/C Stroud 40/1

> J Blixt/Cameron Smith 40/1

> J Dufner/P Perez 50/1

> D Frittelli/J Niemann 50/1

> S Burns/C Champ 50/1

> R Knox/B Stuard 50/1

> T Mullinax/S Stallings 60/1

> B Harman/P Kizzire 60/1

> M Jones/J.J. Spaun 60/1

> L Donald/B Steele 60/1

> C Conners/M Hughes 60/1

> S Im/W Kim 60/1

> B ****/R Sabbatini 60/1

> K Streelman/V Taylor 80/1

> B Garnett/C Hadley 80/1

> M Laird/N Taylor 80/1

> S Bae/S W Kim 80/1

> S Kang/D Lee 80/1

> M Kim/C.T. Pan 80/1

 

I took Conners/Hughes, Duval/Furyk, Oosthuizen/Schwartzel... Dark horses ftw! LFG!

[gioguy21]

> @dropkicked said:

> > @flushem said:

> > L Glover/C Reavie 30/1

> > S Horsfield/I Poulter 40/1

> > C Hoffman/N Watney 40/1

> > B Koepka/C Koepka 40/1

> > A Baddeley/A Hadwin 40/1

> > P Harrington/S Lowry 40/1

> > B Grace/J Harding 40/1

> > J Kokrak/C Stroud 40/1

> > J Blixt/Cameron Smith 40/1

> > J Dufner/P Perez 50/1

> > D Frittelli/J Niemann 50/1

> > S Burns/C Champ 50/1

> > R Knox/B Stuard 50/1

> > T Mullinax/S Stallings 60/1

> > B Harman/P Kizzire 60/1

> > M Jones/J.J. Spaun 60/1

> > L Donald/B Steele 60/1

> > C Conners/M Hughes 60/1

> > S Im/W Kim 60/1

> > B ****/R Sabbatini 60/1

> > K Streelman/V Taylor 80/1

> > B Garnett/C Hadley 80/1

> > M Laird/N Taylor 80/1

> > S Bae/S W Kim 80/1

> > S Kang/D Lee 80/1

> > M Kim/C.T. Pan 80/1

>

> I took Conners/Hughes, Duval/Furyk, Oosthuizen/Schwartzel... Dark horses ftw! LFG!

 

the oosty/schwartz group is gonna be lit -- and by lit i mean like the fireplace these two guys are sitting in-front of in red robes reading books -- do they even talk? lol

[dropkicked]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @dropkicked said:

> > > @flushem said:

> > > L Glover/C Reavie 30/1

> > > S Horsfield/I Poulter 40/1

> > > C Hoffman/N Watney 40/1

> > > B Koepka/C Koepka 40/1

> > > A Baddeley/A Hadwin 40/1

> > > P Harrington/S Lowry 40/1

> > > B Grace/J Harding 40/1

> > > J Kokrak/C Stroud 40/1

> > > J Blixt/Cameron Smith 40/1

> > > J Dufner/P Perez 50/1

> > > D Frittelli/J Niemann 50/1

> > > S Burns/C Champ 50/1

> > > R Knox/B Stuard 50/1

> > > T Mullinax/S Stallings 60/1

> > > B Harman/P Kizzire 60/1

> > > M Jones/J.J. Spaun 60/1

> > > L Donald/B Steele 60/1

> > > C Conners/M Hughes 60/1

> > > S Im/W Kim 60/1

> > > B ****/R Sabbatini 60/1

> > > K Streelman/V Taylor 80/1

> > > B Garnett/C Hadley 80/1

> > > M Laird/N Taylor 80/1

> > > S Bae/S W Kim 80/1

> > > S Kang/D Lee 80/1

> > > M Kim/C.T. Pan 80/1

> >

> > I took Conners/Hughes, Duval/Furyk, Oosthuizen/Schwartzel... Dark horses ftw! LFG!

>

> the oosty/schwartz group is gonna be lit -- and by lit i mean like the fireplace these two guys are sitting in-front of in red robes reading books -- do they even talk? lol

 

LOL! I'm hoping silence is their weapon.. :)

[third-times-a-charm]

Ancer's caddy is out there rippin' cigs on the course.

[2putttom]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> Ancer's caddy is out there rippin' cigs on the course.

 

cig's and coca cola

[MilkyButterCuts]

Good to see Duval out there.

[MilkyButterCuts]

Here's the weekly weather delay.

[tiderider]

does adam scott want to be an umpire?