US Open Local Qualifier Scores

[tgard227]

I've always wondered about how some people enter into the US Open local qualifier in good conscious. I was checking out the local qualifying scores at some sites around me and there were multiple scores of 90 or worse including one score of 100. I think I checked about 5 qualifiers out of curiosity after looking at my local one and the one in St. Louis. I understand that we all have bad rounds or that life happens but some of these scored are just ouch bad. I just don't understand why someone would want to subject themselves to that kind of misery. Has anyone played in a local qualifying event and been paired with someone that you know/strongly suspected was fudging some scores to artificially keep their handicap low?

[b.helts]

Not every qualifier I’ve played in, but enough that it is no surprise and we almost come to expect it.

It would be an interesting case study to figure out The who’s and they why’s.

[Steele47]

Probably a good way to play a course you would not ordinarily have access to.

[hahanice]

Man in the arena.

 

Stuff happens. If you shouldn't be there, maybe don't do it. But if you have the game, to back away for fear of embarrassment is so much worse.

[golfandfishing]

If you think there are serious pretenders here, go check out a PAT sometime. There are guys that have never broke 90 trying to put together 2 rounds of 77 to pass.

At least the USGA will send “the letter” if you blow up.

[gioguy21]

i shot 83 with a 45 front just last week. only to shoot 74 (0.6 differential) 2 days later.

 

blame a starting double and triple...and it's hard to work back from -- btw, PSA: DO NOT GET TO THE COURSE WITH ONLY 20 MINS TO WARMUP BEFORE YOUR US OPEN QUALIFIER ROUND. smh.

[Oliver Klozoff]

I made sectionals a few years ago (shot 68) despite playing with a guy that shot 106. Of course the pros stuck with me blowing out 75s at Sectionals probably weren't too happy either.

 

The USGA no longer sends letters. They say they do if you are 10 over the course rating. But they actually don't anymore. So there's no reason for these people not to lie to try it one fun time.

 

I've given up on the Open and Am. The Am is dominated by college kids moreso than ever. And the Open is so stressful due to the long rounds. 6 hours x 2 rounds = 12 hour day.

[dalehead]

"Artificially keep their handicaps low"? You mean people actually do this?

[bladehunter]

It’s hard to say. I’ve examined state am rounds and you constantly see 89-71 or 85-66 type things. I think I even saw a 98-74.

 

Sure. Some hacks will enter. But. Sometimes it’s just a guy who implodes while on display. Can happen to anyone.

 

I personally don’t get the big deal. Sure. I like to draft off a great player as much as anyone. But you’re deficient yourself if you blame your 77 on a guy shooting 85 plus. You do you and you’ll be fine. Those rounds aren’t fast paced anyway.

[gioguy21]

with regards to pacing -- we teed off promptly at 8:40, and we were off the course by 1:05pm

[Hattie Pants]

Mid am qualifier our 3rd WD'ed and my partner and I were on the clock more than a hole behind by #7. My partner was at 42 through 6.

[golfortennis]

> @"Hattie Pants" said:

> Mid am qualifier our 3rd WD'ed and my partner and I were on the clock more than a hole behind by #7. My partner was at 42 through 6.

 

Wow. That would be tough to take. Did they give you guys any courtesy because of it?

[cardoustie]

The good old mid-am qualifiers. I've had some doozy partners.

Walking in after 6. Picking up a 12" putt on 1 etc etc

[TUGolfer06]

Miserable day for qualifying at the Country Club of Scranton. 42 degrees with a steady rain for May 13th is brutal. Play was suspended around 12:30 ET and will resume at 9 am tomorrow. In 2017 the CC of S had the highest scoring average in country for local qualifying. With the absurdly soft conditions that will likely not be the case this year. Although, only 1 player was under par when play was suspended. 13 guys already WD and we had 3 no shows.

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[Hattie Pants]

> @Bluefan75 said:

> > @"Hattie Pants" said:

> > Mid am qualifier our 3rd WD'ed and my partner and I were on the clock more than a hole behind by #7. My partner was at 42 through 6.

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> Wow. That would be tough to take. Did they give you guys any courtesy because of it?

 

No, speed up or DQ. We sped up, he finished with a smooth 105 and I shot 77. Wish it would've gone better but thems the breaks. That was my first go round in USGA event so you get paired with who knows what. In the 5 events since there's been nothing like it, but every time you see someone post something 3 digits.

[Hattie Pants]

> @cardoustie said:

> The good old mid-am qualifiers. I've had some doozy partners.

> Walking in after 6. Picking up a 12" putt on 1 etc etc

Hahaha love the picking up a "gimme"

[MidwestGolfBum]

> @bladehunter said:

> It’s hard to say. I’ve examined state am rounds and you constantly see 89-71 or 85-66 type things. I think I even saw a 98-74.

>

> Sure. Some hacks will enter. But. Sometimes it’s just a guy who implodes while on display. Can happen to anyone.

>

> I personally don’t get the big deal. Sure. I like to draft off a great player as much as anyone. But you’re deficient yourself if you blame your 77 on a guy shooting 85 plus. You do you and you’ll be fine. Those rounds aren’t fast paced anyway.

 

I've been that person before. Shot 86-68 in a state mid-am. Sure, not a USGA event, but still tournament golf. It happens sometimes, you just move past it.

 

You get some bad breaks that have scores go up quickly, you start pressing when you think you have to and those breaks compound, etc.

 

I have seen plenty of guys who are legit +2 to 3ish caps blow up when it comes to a pace that is much slower than they are used to. It's really not a big deal, they are the ones who have to live with the score, not me.

[cardoustie]

> @MidwestGolfBum said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > It’s hard to say. I’ve examined state am rounds and you constantly see 89-71 or 85-66 type things. I think I even saw a 98-74.

> >

> > Sure. Some hacks will enter. But. Sometimes it’s just a guy who implodes while on display. Can happen to anyone.

> >

> > I personally don’t get the big deal. Sure. I like to draft off a great player as much as anyone. But you’re deficient yourself if you blame your 77 on a guy shooting 85 plus. You do you and you’ll be fine. Those rounds aren’t fast paced anyway.

>

> I've been that person before. Shot 86-68 in a state mid-am. Sure, not a USGA event, but still tournament golf. It happens sometimes, you just move past it.

>

> You get some bad breaks that have scores go up quickly, you start pressing when you think you have to and those breaks compound, etc.

>

> I have seen plenty of guys who are legit +2 to 3ish caps blow up when it comes to a pace that is much slower than they are used to. It's really not a big deal, they are the ones who have to live with the score, not me.

 

tournament golf is hard. Put me down for some really good provincial and national rounds ... and some awful ones as well. I don't have my 24 year old golf nerves any more

[ctsgolf]

> @TUGolfer06 said:

> Miserable day for qualifying at the Country Club of Scranton. 42 degrees with a steady rain for May 13th is brutal. Play was suspended around 12:30 ET and will resume at 9 am tomorrow. In 2017 the CC of S had the highest scoring average in country for local qualifying. With the absurdly soft conditions that will likely not be the case this year. Although, only 1 player was under par when play was suspended. 13 guys already WD and we had 3 no shows.

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Ouch. Practically the whole east coast was getting slammed with rain yesterday.

[caniac6]

Don't you have to have a certain handicap just to enter qualifiers?

[kekoa]

Or you can be like that 16 yr old who set the course record with 61 at Oak Creek. I've looked up his past tournament scores and they are as follows: 77/73; 67/69; 82/78. I guess it can go both ways.

[TUGolfer06]

Got a phone call from the 2018 SEC Player of the Year's father berating the USGA about their handling of today's qualifying given the difficult course conditions. This is the stuff that drives me crazy. The qualifying system is not about being fair from the start. It's designed to simply meet a quota in order to keep the "Open" in the United States Open. Went on and on about how it was unfair to his son and his "advanced ability". What dad failed to explain why his son, who made it to the semifinals of the US Am last year, decided to quit after 9 holes while others had to the will and determination to finish until play was suspended. What a whiny loser...lol.

 

Tomorrow is going to be interesting since the weather is going to be similar to today.

[freeze16172002]

I think alot play it for the experience and sometimes it is held at courses you wouldnt get to play otherwise, so you play just for the course

[Obee]

> @MidwestGolfBum said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > It’s hard to say. I’ve examined state am rounds and you constantly see 89-71 or 85-66 type things. I think I even saw a 98-74.

> >

> > Sure. Some hacks will enter. But. Sometimes it’s just a guy who implodes while on display. Can happen to anyone.

> >

> > I personally don’t get the big deal. Sure. I like to draft off a great player as much as anyone. But you’re deficient yourself if you blame your 77 on a guy shooting 85 plus. You do you and you’ll be fine. Those rounds aren’t fast paced anyway.

>

> I've been that person before. Shot 86-68 in a state mid-am. Sure, not a USGA event, but still tournament golf. It happens sometimes, you just move past it.

>

> You get some bad breaks that have scores go up quickly, you start pressing when you think you have to and those breaks compound, etc.

>

> I have seen plenty of guys who are legit +2 to 3ish caps blow up when it comes to a pace that is much slower than they are used to. It's really not a big deal, they are the ones who have to live with the score, not me.

 

Pretty much every legitimate tournament player has shot a round in the mid-80's at one time or another. The 94's and 101's are entirely different, though, bud. LOL

[2putttom]

> @caniac6 said:

> Don't you have to have a certain handicap just to enter qualifiers?

 

you'd think so, but some don't travel well.

[jll62]

A guy at my site shot 107 (+35) yesterday. As I like to say, "The USGA thanks you for your donation."

[gioguy21]

> @jll62 said:

> A guy at my site shot 107 (+35) yesterday. As I like to say, "The USGA thanks you for your donation."

 

what'd you shoot?

[jll62]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @jll62 said:

> > A guy at my site shot 107 (+35) yesterday. As I like to say, "The USGA thanks you for your donation."

>

> what'd you shoot?

 

72 (E), missed by 3. Considering I only hit 8 greens, I was quite pleased to post what I did. LOL

[gioguy21]

> @jll62 said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @jll62 said:

> > > A guy at my site shot 107 (+35) yesterday. As I like to say, "The USGA thanks you for your donation."

> >

> > what'd you shoot?

>

> 72 (E), missed by 3. Considering I only hit 8 greens, I was quite pleased to post what I did. LOL

 

solid!!

[Hack Daddy]

> @jll62 said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @jll62 said:

> > > A guy at my site shot 107 (+35) yesterday. As I like to say, "The USGA thanks you for your donation."

> >

> > what'd you shoot?

>

> 72 (E), missed by 3. Considering I only hit 8 greens, I was quite pleased to post what I did. LOL

 

Lol, appreciate a dude that can always look at the positive.