Ping's new G410 LST driver

[3wood]

> @Ryan5508 said:

> Now I just need some free time for a proper comparison.

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> Ventus does feel great. Very smooth but stiff. Looks great in person.

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Lmk if the kk doesn’t make the cut

[Ryan5508]

Its surprisingly the lowest spinning shaft of the 4 for me in my limited testing.

The atmos is the lowest launching.

The atmos makes the KK feel soft.

Ventus feels the most powerful but still stiff/stable

Even flow is the softest feeling one of the group.

The KK felt much better in the Gmax head.

 

I have been working the last 6 days and only get out for a few mins after work to hit a few shots before bed. Hoping Friday I can get outside with them if its not raining like every other day here has.

[Ryan5508]

I should add so far I have seen about a 600 RPM spin reduction from the Max head to the LST with the KK XD shaft

 

Edit-fell back in line where I would expect at only 150rpm less today.

[Ryan5508]

Hitting a little better today but still indoor testing only. Last few times I tried I just wasn't feeling it after working all day.

 

Here were tonight's results -

 

[3wood]

> @Ryan5508 said:

> Hitting a little better today but still indoor testing only. Last few times I tried I just wasn't feeling it after working all day.

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> Here were tonight's results -

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What’s your swing speed?

[3_Jack_Par]

> @Ryan5508 said:

> Hitting a little better today but still indoor testing only. Last few times I tried I just wasn't feeling it after working all day.

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> Here were tonight's results -

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Seems like you’d be better off with the 410 Plus. Spin under 2000 is probably not optimal for those ball speeds. From what I understand, the LST is supposed to be around 400 RPM less than the Plus, and that seems like it would be about perfect for you. Then you can sell your head to someone desperately wanting the LST right away. Everybody wins!

 

[Ryan5508]

Don't think the 410 would change anything for me. Most hits with even the Gmax had me sitting around 2000 RPM average spin. Currently I just can't seem to stop hitting twoards the high toe area. I have always been a low spin with almost all drivers.

 

The two times I have managed to play outside I would have to say that the lst seemed more consistent and controlled vs the max.

 

I was trying to get a friend to buy a 410 + so I could compare. Since all my shafts were swapped over to the 410 adapter.

[J13]

> @Ryan5508 said:

> Don't think the 410 would change anything for me. Most hits with even the Gmax had me sitting around 2000 RPM average spin. Currently I just can't seem to stop hitting twoards the high toe area. I have always been a low spin with almost all drivers.

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> The two times I have managed to play outside I would have to say that the lst seemed more consistent and controlled vs the max.

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> I was trying to get a friend to buy a 410 + so I could compare. Since all my shafts were swapped over to the 410 adapter.

 

Plus would give you better spin numbers but have you tried increasing the loft? Or playing your driver 1/2" longer?

[Ryan5508]

I have not lofted up from the stock 9 degree yet

[Ryan5508]

> @3wood said:

> > @Ryan5508 said:

> > Hitting a little better today but still indoor testing only. Last few times I tried I just wasn't feeling it after working all day.

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> > Here were tonight's results -

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> What’s your swing speed?

 

The garmin g80 used to say 110-112 mph before the update screwed up the readings

[PorkChopExpress]

> @gambit said:

> > @desaille said:

> > G410 LST is the best yet.

> > Less pointy toe like the former g400 lst, I've gone through 7 of these heads in a love hate relationship & trying every new driver out there thinking it's better than the g400 lst.

> > The new G410 LST shape is better and sounds great, even without hotmelt. My TD might be a bit longer on some hits but I have no clue where the TD is going. The G410 LST was a simple drop in and go (g400 lst will be up on BST soon)

> > Testing a PO 60tx and Diamana DF 60TX

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> Can you let us know how those two shafts compared in that head? I have the PO in the G400 LST, but want to try the DF too.

PO 60tx all day long. Can swing it all day long, just can't go after it (probably a good thing)

The DF has a tendency to go left (a hard left). Probably the weighting on the DF but even tweaking, it just doesn't feel the same. Could probably tip the DF even more but the setup would border being short.

Been testing against my TD, still don't know where the TD goes even though its straight straight.

 

 

[Rpete33]

Can’t wait to give this driver a go, mine should arrive early next this week, gonna test between Kura Kage XD and Tensei pro orange

[Ryan5508]

I have been able to get out with both the ventus and the evenflow twice now. The evenflow has been slightly longer overall but likes to overfade for me. I have had some really nice long drives with it.

 

The ventus on the other hand is shorter overall but really has minimal left or right to it unless you really go after it or try to make the ball turn. It's not the most lively feeling shaft but it is the most consistent.

 

Currently I am averaging 10 yards less with the LST vs the max with the KK XD. Though I do have about 110 rounds with the max through last year. The lst seems to stay in play better so far. I am still not sure if extra spin would be helpful but would still like to try out a 410 plus this year. The flat lie setting has been great for me.

[thewral]

Liking the 410 LST but not the sound. Sounds similar to the Epic Flash SZ even with 4g of hotmelt in it. The Plus sounds better, and my hotmelted 400 LST sounds the best out of the lot. Anyone else noticing this?

[Ryan5508]

I would disagree with you. I had the flash as well and it was like a hitting a metal trash can lid. Lst does not sound anything like that.

[jcg132]

Really loving the 410 plus with Tensei pro white 60 TX (10.5 head at flat -1 setting). Little hot melt in there. Sounds great, super forgiving. After some swing changes I have been searching hard for a forgiving driver that will allow me to play both my old cut and now my stock draw off the tee - this is it. Tempted by the 410 LST but I’ve learned the hard way that if you go super low spin sometimes the draws can just fall out of the sky.

[G-Bone]

> @Ryan5508 said:

> I would disagree with you. I had the flash as well and it was like a hitting a metal trash can lid. Lst does not sound anything like that.

 

I strongly agree. Epic Flash SB is the feel and sounds so bad. Makes me sad because original Epic SB was on of the GOATs.

 

I have been extremely happy with sound and feel of 410 LST.

 

When hit flush in the sweet spot it has a soft pop unlike any driver I’ve experienced. Love it!

 

 

[thewral]

Must just be me then... I agree it’s not as bad as the Flash SZ but it is getting there.

[GoTime]

Anyone not digging their 410? Thinking about looking for one to try out - currently play F9

[dpb5031]

Finally got the new Ping 410 tip installed on my GD Tour AD IZ 6x. I had previously been playing it in a 9 degree Max, now it's in my new 9 degree 410 LST. 400 Max is the easiest/most forgiving driver I've ever used, but it spins a little high for me at around 2800-3k rpms.

 

I have not been on Trackman, but flight appears optimal and the ball is taking off with the launch and trajectory I like to see. I can actually see visually that the ball is spinning less and I was getting some nice roll out. No problem turning it over for slight draws or squeezing out a bullet fade. Mine appears to sit very square in the standard loft but flat setting. I'm pretty sure this one is going to be a winner. I'll report back if I get a chance to verify spin numbers in Trackman.

[Deuce78]

> @Spongeb0b said:

> Anyone not digging their 410? Thinking about looking for one to try out - currently play F9

No complaints here, gave mine the tour treatment and it sounds great, not quite as good as my m5, but it looks to be performing nicely. I prefer the look over last years g400 LST. I did not like the look of dragonfly on top. I haven't played the 410 much, but it was performing consistently and penetrating on the range so far.

 

[GoTime]

> @Deuce78 said:

> > @Spongeb0b said:

> > Anyone not digging their 410? Thinking about looking for one to try out - currently play F9

> No complaints here, gave mine the tour treatment and it sounds great, not quite as good as my m5, but it looks to be performing nicely. I prefer the look over last years g400 LST. I did not like the look of dragonfly on top. I haven't played the 410 much, but it was performing consistently and penetrating on the range so far.

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M5 faster ball speed or what?

[sofla]

so when are these going to be in stores?

[cz13X4]

> @sofla said:

> so when are these going to be in stores?

 

There was one in my local store and after a long ride my custom pre order arrives today.

[awtryau89]

> @sofla said:

> so when are these going to be in stores?

 

My PGASS in Atlanta had 6-8 on their racks with Tensei and Evenflow shafts.

 

[ei19]

I spoke with Ping today and mine was being worked on and should ship tomorrow. 10.5 degree with a Tensei Orange.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Spent time tonight with the 9* on GC Quad, and I can say that this is going to be great for a certain type of player.

1. Feel is definitely like an old school baseball bat, very solid and you know when you mint it

2. Anyone who struggles with high launch, high spin, and OTT pulls or hooks, you are going to love it

3. Ball speed was very very strong, it only took me about 10 swings to pass 168BS which is silly my average

[Deuce78]

> @Spongeb0b said:

> > @Deuce78 said:

> > > @Spongeb0b said:

> > > Anyone not digging their 410? Thinking about looking for one to try out - currently play F9

> > No complaints here, gave mine the tour treatment and it sounds great, not quite as good as my m5, but it looks to be performing nicely. I prefer the look over last years g400 LST. I did not like the look of dragonfly on top. I haven't played the 410 much, but it was performing consistently and penetrating on the range so far.

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> M5 faster ball speed or what?

 

Not sure on BS. Drivers are pretty close now these days, so it's about looks feel sound and accuracy. The m5 has in my opinion better looks sound and feel, but the LST is not far behind. M5 is working well for me, but I need to test the LST on course. Hopeing the LST will be just as accurate and longer.

[jcg132]

Interesting results on the other sites CG test when you compare the 410 plus vs the LST. I was surprised how fade biased the Plus is in fade setting. Otherwise both are fairly close, if anything it made me want to stick with the plus.

[BearQ]

How’s it perform on low center strikes. I’m die hard Ltd pro cause it saves my low face strikes due to its legendary Neutral cog