Kirkland Signature (Costco) golf balls (MERGED) (NO BST POSTS)

[Girevik]

> @Nessism said:

> FYI, just order online and avoid the chaos of the store.

I usually do, but the sale plus lack of shopping fees convinced me to stay. I'll probably be back, especially if the KP+ ever makes an appearance.

 

[jas904]

> @Stanks said:

> Get. Ready. The refresh button will be quite useful soon.

 

You're teasing us!

[Girevik]

> @jas904 said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > Get. Ready. The refresh button will be quite useful soon.

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> You're teasing us!

 

I think I smell troll.

[Stanks]

> @Girevik said:

> > @jas904 said:

> > > @Stanks said:

> > > Get. Ready. The refresh button will be quite useful soon.

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> > You're teasing us!

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> I think I smell troll.

 

Smelling things through the internet must be an adventure. Considering I still have some original Kirkland 4s, I’m not so sure.

[jpdx]

> @Swoff57 said:

> So, I was on the golf course today and got paired up with a high level Costco Staffer. He was a really nice guy and I noticed he was playing a ball I never seen before. So on the 10th green I asked what ball he was playing. He told me it was a kirkland Signature ball. He went on to tell me that Costco will start selling the ball this October.

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> The ball itself will be made in Korea and is a 4 piece urethane ball. The cost will be $29.99 for 24. Seems like a pretty good deal. The ball seemed to check up well for him and had good flight characteristics. He was a long hitter and was consistently around 285ish.

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> Anyone else hear anything about this?

 

OP needs to get out on the golf course again and try to get paired up with that same Costco staffer and get some more info.

[soregongolfer]

> @jpdx said:

> > @Swoff57 said:

> > So, I was on the golf course today and got paired up with a high level Costco Staffer. He was a really nice guy and I noticed he was playing a ball I never seen before. So on the 10th green I asked what ball he was playing. He told me it was a kirkland Signature ball. He went on to tell me that Costco will start selling the ball this October.

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> > The ball itself will be made in Korea and is a 4 piece urethane ball. The cost will be $29.99 for 24. Seems like a pretty good deal. The ball seemed to check up well for him and had good flight characteristics. He was a long hitter and was consistently around 285ish.

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> > Anyone else hear anything about this?

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> OP needs to get out on the golf course again and try to get paired up with that same Costco staffer and get some more info.

 

> @jpdx said:

> > @Swoff57 said:

> > So, I was on the golf course today and got paired up with a high level Costco Staffer. He was a really nice guy and I noticed he was playing a ball I never seen before. So on the 10th green I asked what ball he was playing. He told me it was a kirkland Signature ball. He went on to tell me that Costco will start selling the ball this October.

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> > The ball itself will be made in Korea and is a 4 piece urethane ball. The cost will be $29.99 for 24. Seems like a pretty good deal. The ball seemed to check up well for him and had good flight characteristics. He was a long hitter and was consistently around 285ish.

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> > Anyone else hear anything about this?

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> OP needs to get out on the golf course again and try to get paired up with that same Costco staffer and get some more info.

 

Uh huh. Camp out in the parking lot and join him.

[gioreeko]

> @Stanks said:

> > @Girevik said:

> > > @jas904 said:

> > > > @Stanks said:

> > > > Get. Ready. The refresh button will be quite useful soon.

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> > > You're teasing us!

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> > I think I smell troll.

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> Smelling things through the internet must be an adventure. Considering I still have some original Kirkland 4s, I’m not so sure.

 

I have a bunch of original 4 piece left too, but I'm also not spreading rumors.

[Stanks]

> @gioreeko said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > > @Girevik said:

> > > > @jas904 said:

> > > > > @Stanks said:

> > > > > Get. Ready. The refresh button will be quite useful soon.

> > > >

> > > > You're teasing us!

> > >

> > > I think I smell troll.

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> > Smelling things through the internet must be an adventure. Considering I still have some original Kirkland 4s, I’m not so sure.

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> I have a bunch of original 4 piece left too, but I'm also not spreading rumors.

 

Neither am I. Rumors are hearsay.

[OspreyCI]

Wish I could find a ball like the KSIG 4 piece. I am almost out.

[Stanks]

> @OspreyCI said:

> Wish I could find a ball like the KSIG 4 piece. I am almost out.

Snell MTB, chromesoft, volvik s4, vice pro plus, titleist prov1x, srixon z star, MIzuno RB, maxfli...

What does that mean? A ball like the KSIG 4 piece? They’re out there brother. Go and test

[Girevik]

> @Stanks said:

> > @OspreyCI said:

> > Wish I could find a ball like the KSIG 4 piece. I am almost out.

> Snell MTB, chromesoft, volvik s4, vice pro plus, titleist prov1x, srixon z star, MIzuno RB, maxfli...

> What does that mean? A ball like the KSIG 4 piece? They’re out there brother. Go and test

 

True, but how many of them come it at $15 / doz?

[Stanks]

> @Girevik said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > > @OspreyCI said:

> > > Wish I could find a ball like the KSIG 4 piece. I am almost out.

> > Snell MTB, chromesoft, volvik s4, vice pro plus, titleist prov1x, srixon z star, MIzuno RB, maxfli...

> > What does that mean? A ball like the KSIG 4 piece? They’re out there brother. Go and test

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> True, but how many of them come it at $15 / doz?

It just isn’t meant to be. The next offering that will come out is also at a very competitive price. I’ll say, the K4 is like the glock of the golf ball market. Does the same thing as all the other top level balls but, cheap price.

Previous generation balls are stupid

Cheap though. Give them a look.

[North Butte]

If there's any difference between the $20/dozen Srixon ball and the $15/dozen original K-Sig it's pretty minor (beyond the $5 price difference and the fact you can actually buy the Srixon).

[Girevik]

> @"North Butte" said:

> If there's any difference between the $20/dozen Srixon ball and the $15/dozen original K-Sig it's pretty minor (beyond the $5 price difference and the fact you can actually buy the Srixon).

 

The price was the whole point, at least initially. A premium ball at a low-end ball price.

I thought the Z-Stars were 30 - $40/ dozen. Have they dropped, is there a deal, or is that for previous generation?

[North Butte]

The deal may have expired but as of a couple weeks ago they were $20/dozen. Probably last year's model I'd imagine.

 

But the original K-Sig is of course older than "last year"!

[cristphoto]

> @"North Butte" said:

> The deal may have expired but as of a couple weeks ago they were $20/dozen. Probably last year's model I'd imagine.

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> But the original K-Sig is of course older than "last year"!

 

They were “buy one get one free” at $40 so effectively they were $20 a dozen.

 

 

[Girevik]

It's not about the age as much of the sustainability. The Great Hope is that the new 4 piece ball will be something that is regularly available, gives premium performance, and is in that $15 price range. I'm not interested in a $20 ball that will cost me $40 per to replace if I like them.

[DavePelz4]

> @"North Butte" said:

> The deal may have expired but as of a couple weeks ago they were $20/dozen. Probably last year's model I'd imagine.

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> But the original K-Sig is of course older than "last year"!

 

Oh NB...the KSig's are timeless. Kind of like the VSteel of golf balls. They only get better with age which I sure can't say for myself.

[Stanks]

We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

[DavePelz4]

> @Stanks said:

> We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

> I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

> But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

 

Intrigued...how is golf harmed by the ball? I'd go the other way and suggest that it proves a quality direct to market product can earn some share while also offering value.

[North Butte]

> @Girevik said:

> It's not about the age as much of the sustainability. The Great Hope is that the new 4 piece ball will be something that is regularly available, gives premium performance, and is in that $15 price range. I'm not interested in a $20 ball that will cost me $40 per to replace if I like them.

 

Srixon balls have been available for around $20/dozen for at least three different periods of time over the last several years. They are constantly running that sort of promotion, not at all a one-time thing.

 

Then again, I have bought Bridgestone B330 and Taylormade TP5 around that price point in the past. Not to mention the all-time deal of all deals TM Lethal PRACTICE back in the day. Unless you think that one ball is mighty special, it's no big trick to buy a few months worth of whatever is out there under $2/ball whenever you need to stock up.

 

Given that Costco offer the 3pc K-Sig at around that same price point, I'd imagine they consider that spot in their product lineup to be adequately addressed.

[North Butte]

> @DavePelz4 said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

> > I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

> > But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

>

> Intrigued...how is golf harmed by the ball? I'd go the other way and suggest that it proves a quality direct to market product can earn some share while also offering value.

 

Generally whenever someone talks about something being good or bad for "the game [of golf]" that's code for being good or bad for the speaker's own ability to make money at something golf-related.

[OakRockHacker]

> @cristphoto said:

> > @"North Butte" said:

> > The deal may have expired but as of a couple weeks ago they were $20/dozen. Probably last year's model I'd imagine.

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> > But the original K-Sig is of course older than "last year"!

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> They were “buy one get one free” at $40 so effectively they were $20 a dozen.

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> @Girevik said:

> It's not about the age as much of the sustainability. The Great Hope is that the new 4 piece ball will be something that is regularly available, gives premium performance, and is in that $15 price range. I'm not interested in a $20 ball that will cost me $40 per to replace if I like them.

 

And the sale was on the current generation. The BOGO seems to be a yearly deal around father's day/US Open, and combined with the $10/half dozen sale on "sample packs" in the winter, it's not too hard to have a consistent supply purchased at $20/dozen (or less with coupons). That being said it's still $20 vs $15 and you do have to stockpile at least a bit, depending on how quickly you go through balls.

 

I agree with your hope for a readily available 4-piece, even if just for the competition in the market and to make sure other manufacturers don't get too comfortable.

[Stanks]

> @DavePelz4 said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

> > I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

> > But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

>

> Intrigued...how is golf harmed by the ball? I'd go the other way and suggest that it proves a quality direct to market product can earn some share while also offering value.

 

Oh ya. There is positive and negative value indeed. By supporting Kirkland, we are supporting those big box stores and those giant retailers out there (even in online sales). Money going to Titleist, TM, Mizuno, callaway, etc. will undoubtedly benefit the golf industry more than say, if we supported Kirkland and Costco.

Plus sides: cheaper to play golf, introduces more people to the game, quality ball at great price, can drive down similar tour level balls to lower prices, ultimately can grow the game.

Negatives: supporting the giant while niche and specialist brands struggle, that money doesn’t go directly back into golf, quality can be inconsistent due to cheaper rate and manufacturing.

It’s the classic scenario. Keep visiting the small mom and pop shop in town or go to the new Target that is across the road.

[North Butte]

So not hurting "the game" so much as hurting certain types of retailers and golf course pro shops.

[Girevik]

> @"North Butte" said:

> Given that Costco offer the 3pc K-Sig at around that same price point, I'd imagine they consider that spot in their product lineup to be adequately addressed.

 

Except for that pesky 4 piece ball that persists on the conforming ball list.

 

 

[North Butte]

> @Girevik said:

> > @"North Butte" said:

> > Given that Costco offer the 3pc K-Sig at around that same price point, I'd imagine they consider that spot in their product lineup to be adequately addressed.

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> Except for that pesky 4 piece ball that persists on the conforming ball list.

 

Oh I wouldn't be surprised at all if they started selling that ball or some other "4pc" one. But it isn't going to be the original K-Sig and there's no particular reason to think it's better or worse than the current 3pc one, unless and until you've tried it.

 

I just don't think they will ever for any extended period have two different models of KIRKLAND Signature golf balls at the same time, not unless one or the other is just a limited-time deal like the original.

[DavePelz4]

> @Stanks said:

> > @DavePelz4 said:

> > > @Stanks said:

> > > We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

> > > I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

> > > But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

> >

> > Intrigued...how is golf harmed by the ball? I'd go the other way and suggest that it proves a quality direct to market product can earn some share while also offering value.

>

> Oh ya. There is positive and negative value indeed. By supporting Kirkland, we are supporting those big box stores and those giant retailers out there (even in online sales). Money going to Titleist, TM, Mizuno, callaway, etc. will undoubtedly benefit the golf industry more than say, if we supported Kirkland and Costco.

> Plus sides: cheaper to play golf, introduces more people to the game, quality ball at great price, can drive down similar tour level balls to lower prices, ultimately can grow the game.

> Negatives: supporting the giant while niche and specialist brands struggle, that money doesn’t go directly back into golf, quality can be inconsistent due to cheaper rate and manufacturing.

> It’s the classic scenario. Keep visiting the small mom and pop shop in town or go to the new Target that is across the road.

 

Interesting perspective for sure. In the last 3 months there have been or are for sale at Costco...Callaway balls/clubs/gloves/bags, Titleist gloves, Under Armour bags/polos, Nike spikes, Garmin GPS's, Caddy Tek push carts, Ogio bags and Apothic Red wine. Just checking to see if you're paying attention. Anyhoo...are selling all those products through Costco a good thing or bad?

[Stanks]

> @DavePelz4 said:

> > @Stanks said:

> > > @DavePelz4 said:

> > > > @Stanks said:

> > > > We do play an expensive game. Truth. We need to cut costs whenever possible. The ball included and for some, probably the most important to cut costs on.

> > > > I still think this ball in the short run is doing more harm to the game and industry than good but in the long, manufacturers are hopefully understanding that their tour ball needs to be cheaper.

> > > > But don’t worry for you penny pinchers. Patience. Or just go buy some AAAA rated golf balls that do the same thing at the K4s

> > >

> > > Intrigued...how is golf harmed by the ball? I'd go the other way and suggest that it proves a quality direct to market product can earn some share while also offering value.

> >

> > Oh ya. There is positive and negative value indeed. By supporting Kirkland, we are supporting those big box stores and those giant retailers out there (even in online sales). Money going to Titleist, TM, Mizuno, callaway, etc. will undoubtedly benefit the golf industry more than say, if we supported Kirkland and Costco.

> > Plus sides: cheaper to play golf, introduces more people to the game, quality ball at great price, can drive down similar tour level balls to lower prices, ultimately can grow the game.

> > Negatives: supporting the giant while niche and specialist brands struggle, that money doesn’t go directly back into golf, quality can be inconsistent due to cheaper rate and manufacturing.

> > It’s the classic scenario. Keep visiting the small mom and pop shop in town or go to the new Target that is across the road.

>

> Interesting perspective for sure. In the last 3 months there have been or are for sale at Costco...Callaway balls/clubs/gloves/bags, Titleist gloves, Under Armour bags/polos, Nike spikes, Garmin GPS's, Caddy Tek push carts, Ogio bags and Apothic Red wine. Just checking to see if you're paying attention. Anyhoo...are selling all those products through Costco a good thing or bad?

Yes great point. Costco is getting their fingers in the golf market. Bueno thing for sure. These are all brands that support the sport for sure. Costco / Kirkland will still need to buy the product from Callaway, Garmin, UA, Titleist, OGIO etc. and support those companies in their golf venture. Kirkland balls, kirkland gloves, they are the thing I am weary of. They are the products I am hopeful will help drive down tour ball prices from the main companies but, hope they won't put them under or bankrupt them, cha feel?

More availability for golf stuff from golf companies is never a bad thing. You say, "Kirkland", I think big box store with discount stuff all around. I don't think golf. I want to support golf through golf stores and companies.

[Girevik]

Calloway, Titleist, Foot Joy, etc. all have their products manufactured in a factory somewhere, buy the product, and resell it for a profit. Generally speaking, Kirkland products are make in these same factories with equal quality and sold at a far lower markup. I fail to see how that is anything but a win for the consumer. I'll shed few tears for Titleist if they don't get their massive markups they earned with name recognition.

 

I bought some of the Kirkland gloves and they are excellent, but you could also by a similar glove from MG for a similar price. Is that somehow better because they are a "golf company"?

 

I'm all for the free market; if someone wants to pay $40 for a dozen golf balls, then kudos to the big names to investing in the marketing to earn those returns. But I don't feel sorry for them if someone is willing to undercut them and take a lower profit per unit for the same quality item regardless of whether they are "big box" or not.