Ping's new G410 LST driver

[Crooksc17]

> @Hedgehog said:

> > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > I have the Tour 65X 45" and the Evenflow Black 6.0 Handcrafted tipped 0,5" and playing around 44,75". Evenflow Black still feels a bit whippy, but it likes to go straight when I mishit it off the toe, and a really good hit is maybe a bit longer than Tour shaft. But I have to say the Tour 65X is legit a good shaft, it likes to fade on me a bit more then the Evenflow.

> > > >

> > > > Where have you guys ordered weights? Would love a setup of 2 weights in neutral and draw, my factory weight is 14gr, friend has the same head and he had a 12gr weight.

> > >

> > > Golf works has the weights. But they are all pretty heavy. If you wanted a 2 weight setup the SW is going to be pretty high

> >

> > I have the 12g weight in the fade spot and 10g in draw. With a playing length of 44” the SW is about D7. I bought a 5.5g weight off eBay that will replace the 12g weight to get the SW back to a D4-5 level. Hopefully will have the weight later this week

>

> Got a link to the eBay item?

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273904320880

 

Bought stuff from this seller before so I trust them.

[matchavez]

Maybe I’m wrong, but if you backweight the crap out of an LST, aren’t you just making it a spinny head? I mean, I could see where you might go with a couple of 4g on the outsides instead of an 8…

[johnnypro]

> @johnnypro said:

> Picked mine up yesterday.

> 10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"

> Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.

> Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?

> We'll see. That's a tall order.

 

Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.

I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.

I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

 

 

[johnnybogey]

Can someone explain what the flat setting does? I understand when using irons and going to a flatter lie and its affect but I not so sure with driver.

Thanks

[Oknows]

Curious if there is a lot of forgiveness/stability benefit from separating the weight with two weights. Currently have a 16g in the draw setting. Thinking about splitting that across the back if there is a benefit outside of swing weight. Thanks.

[Oilman83]

This driver is great! It beat out everything else on the monitors then translated. SS speed 105, fitted into Tensei Orange stiff, 9*. Spin rate avg. 2100-2200 rpm, 11-12* launch. Great stick!!!

[bladehunter]

Anybody have any comparisons , spin wise, from G410lst to m6? I may be getting one to test soon and just curious.

[osubuckeyes691]

I have a 410 LST with 65 TZ6 and a M5 TZ5. 410 blows it away. Longer. More consistent flight. Easier to draw IMO. I don't have actual numbers but I do have a GC2. If I don't sell my M5 by next week I'll get you some.

 

> @bladehunter said:

> Anybody have any comparisons , spin wise, from G410lst to m6? I may be getting one to test soon and just curious.

 

 

[Oilman83]

I just came from an M5 and it spun around 2600 rpm with a VA Composites Drago shaft. I’m noticing 3 mph higher ball speed with the 410 lst. Plus I noticed some really weird ball flights with the “Twist Face” technology.

[buckeyefl]

For the better players that have an LST do you feel it plays close to stated loft or did they pull the higher loft than stated trick?

[Laznasty]

I have an LST 10.5° head if anyone is interested

[Trying4Better]

> @johnnypro said:

> > @johnnypro said:

> > Picked mine up yesterday.

> > 10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"

> > Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.

> > Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?

> > We'll see. That's a tall order.

>

> Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.

> I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.

> I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

>

>

 

Maybe this just means you needed the TS3 :smiley:

 

I am a high spin and 115mph ss player, who recently made the switch off of TaylorMade woods into Titleist. I found the cog to be the best in the business. I can dial in the Titleist so much more than anything else on the market. I also loved that they have an 8.5deg head, which makes the world of a difference for me from 9 deg. I hit the Ping and found it to be too spinny even in the LST version. Wasn't sold on their "adjustability." I found the movements in the Titleist to have the exact affect you think they would, where Ping and TaylorMade left me gaining in one area and losing in another. I guess to each their own, but my TS3 is a beast that is long and straight. Not trying to sway you back into Titleist, just sharing my experience.

 

[johnnypro]

> @Trying4Better said:

> > @johnnypro said:

> > > @johnnypro said:

> > > Picked mine up yesterday.

> > > 10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"

> > > Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.

> > > Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?

> > > We'll see. That's a tall order.

> >

> > Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.

> > I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.

> > I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

> >

> >

>

> Maybe this just means you needed the TS3 :smiley:

>

> I am a high spin and 115mph ss player, who recently made the switch off of TaylorMade woods into Titleist. I found the cog to be the best in the business. I can dial in the Titleist so much more than anything else on the market. I also loved that they have an 8.5deg head, which makes the world of a difference for me from 9 deg. I hit the Ping and found it to be too spinny even in the LST version. Wasn't sold on their "adjustability." I found the movements in the Titleist to have the exact affect you think they would, where Ping and TaylorMade left me gaining in one area and losing in another. I guess to each their own, but my TS3 is a beast that is long and straight. Not trying to sway you back into Titleist, just sharing my experience.

>

Funny you mention the TS3. I had one. Not for me. TS2 a much better fit FOR ME.

That's why I'm not selling it. If and when the G410 LST honeymoon comes to an end, it's nice to have a fall-back driver.

 

 

[Trying4Better]

> @johnnypro said:

> > @Trying4Better said:

> > > @johnnypro said:

> > > > @johnnypro said:

> > > > Picked mine up yesterday.

> > > > 10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"

> > > > Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.

> > > > Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?

> > > > We'll see. That's a tall order.

> > >

> > > Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.

> > > I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.

> > > I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Maybe this just means you needed the TS3 :smiley:

> >

> > I am a high spin and 115mph ss player, who recently made the switch off of TaylorMade woods into Titleist. I found the cog to be the best in the business. I can dial in the Titleist so much more than anything else on the market. I also loved that they have an 8.5deg head, which makes the world of a difference for me from 9 deg. I hit the Ping and found it to be too spinny even in the LST version. Wasn't sold on their "adjustability." I found the movements in the Titleist to have the exact affect you think they would, where Ping and TaylorMade left me gaining in one area and losing in another. I guess to each their own, but my TS3 is a beast that is long and straight. Not trying to sway you back into Titleist, just sharing my experience.

> >

> Funny you mention the TS3. I had one. Not for me. TS2 a much better fit FOR ME.

> That's why I'm not selling it. If and when the G410 LST honeymoon comes to an end, it's nice to have a fall-back driver.

>

>

 

What did you like better about the TS2? I found it to spin up a bit much - for me.

[johnnypro]

> @Trying4Better said:

> > @johnnypro said:

> > > @Trying4Better said:

> > > > @johnnypro said:

> > > > > @johnnypro said:

> > > > > Picked mine up yesterday.

> > > > > 10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"

> > > > > Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.

> > > > > Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?

> > > > > We'll see. That's a tall order.

> > > >

> > > > Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.

> > > > I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.

> > > > I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Maybe this just means you needed the TS3 :smiley:

> > >

> > > I am a high spin and 115mph ss player, who recently made the switch off of TaylorMade woods into Titleist. I found the cog to be the best in the business. I can dial in the Titleist so much more than anything else on the market. I also loved that they have an 8.5deg head, which makes the world of a difference for me from 9 deg. I hit the Ping and found it to be too spinny even in the LST version. Wasn't sold on their "adjustability." I found the movements in the Titleist to have the exact affect you think they would, where Ping and TaylorMade left me gaining in one area and losing in another. I guess to each their own, but my TS3 is a beast that is long and straight. Not trying to sway you back into Titleist, just sharing my experience.

> > >

> > Funny you mention the TS3. I had one. Not for me. TS2 a much better fit FOR ME.

> > That's why I'm not selling it. If and when the G410 LST honeymoon comes to an end, it's nice to have a fall-back driver.

> >

> >

>

> What did you like better about the TS2? I found it to spin up a bit much - for me.

Spin, schmin.....it's just way easier to hit.

Much more forgiving!

 

 

[denvergolf]

> @buckeyefl said:

> For the better players that have an LST do you feel it plays close to stated loft or did they pull the higher loft than stated trick?

 

I hit the regular 9* 410 lower than an Epic Flash triple diamond 9* - fwiw

[buckeyefl]

> @denvergolf said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > For the better players that have an LST do you feel it plays close to stated loft or did they pull the higher loft than stated trick?

>

> I hit the regular 9* 410 lower than an Epic Flash triple diamond 9* - fwiw

 

That helps. Thanks.

[juggernaut0629]

> @Crooksc17 said:

> > @Hedgehog said:

> > > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > > I have the Tour 65X 45" and the Evenflow Black 6.0 Handcrafted tipped 0,5" and playing around 44,75". Evenflow Black still feels a bit whippy, but it likes to go straight when I mishit it off the toe, and a really good hit is maybe a bit longer than Tour shaft. But I have to say the Tour 65X is legit a good shaft, it likes to fade on me a bit more then the Evenflow.

> > > > >

> > > > > Where have you guys ordered weights? Would love a setup of 2 weights in neutral and draw, my factory weight is 14gr, friend has the same head and he had a 12gr weight.

> > > >

> > > > Golf works has the weights. But they are all pretty heavy. If you wanted a 2 weight setup the SW is going to be pretty high

> > >

> > > I have the 12g weight in the fade spot and 10g in draw. With a playing length of 44” the SW is about D7. I bought a 5.5g weight off eBay that will replace the 12g weight to get the SW back to a D4-5 level. Hopefully will have the weight later this week

> >

> > Got a link to the eBay item?

>

> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273904320880

>

> Bought stuff from this seller before so I trust them.

 

I have bought from this seller as well in the past. I bought replacement 410 weights him recently as well. They are in FL, I'm in NY. Bought these thinking they'd here 3-4 days from FL. NOPE.....tracking shows that the package left FL then went to CA. Just left CA to go to NY. I've shipped plenty to and from CA....it will be 5 days before I see this package. I just don't understand how USPS works anymore. To get a package from FL to NY it has to go to CA first? Or maybe it has to do with seller? Idk. I didn't have this issue last time I dealt with the seller.

[t4t3r]

> @juggernaut0629 said:

> > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > > > I have the Tour 65X 45" and the Evenflow Black 6.0 Handcrafted tipped 0,5" and playing around 44,75". Evenflow Black still feels a bit whippy, but it likes to go straight when I mishit it off the toe, and a really good hit is maybe a bit longer than Tour shaft. But I have to say the Tour 65X is legit a good shaft, it likes to fade on me a bit more then the Evenflow.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where have you guys ordered weights? Would love a setup of 2 weights in neutral and draw, my factory weight is 14gr, friend has the same head and he had a 12gr weight.

> > > > >

> > > > > Golf works has the weights. But they are all pretty heavy. If you wanted a 2 weight setup the SW is going to be pretty high

> > > >

> > > > I have the 12g weight in the fade spot and 10g in draw. With a playing length of 44” the SW is about D7. I bought a 5.5g weight off eBay that will replace the 12g weight to get the SW back to a D4-5 level. Hopefully will have the weight later this week

> > >

> > > Got a link to the eBay item?

> >

> > https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273904320880

> >

> > Bought stuff from this seller before so I trust them.

>

> I have bought from this seller as well in the past. I bought replacement 410 weights him recently as well. They are in FL, I'm in NY. Bought these thinking they'd here 3-4 days from FL. NOPE.....tracking shows that the package left FL then went to CA. Just left CA to go to NY. I've shipped plenty to and from CA....it will be 5 days before I see this package. I just don't understand how USPS works anymore. To get a package from FL to NY it has to go to CA first? Or maybe it has to do with seller? Idk. I didn't have this issue last time I dealt with the seller.

 

I’ve bought many adapters from this seller and never had that issue. Always ships within a day or so and reaches me in the DC area as fast as First Class can go. Sounds like some sort of mid-sort by USPS. We all know how reliable they are. :)

[Pleasedwith3putts]

> @t4t3r said:

> > @juggernaut0629 said:

> > > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > > @Crooksc17 said:

> > > > > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > > > > @Hedgehog said:

> > > > > > > I have the Tour 65X 45" and the Evenflow Black 6.0 Handcrafted tipped 0,5" and playing around 44,75". Evenflow Black still feels a bit whippy, but it likes to go straight when I mishit it off the toe, and a really good hit is maybe a bit longer than Tour shaft. But I have to say the Tour 65X is legit a good shaft, it likes to fade on me a bit more then the Evenflow.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Where have you guys ordered weights? Would love a setup of 2 weights in neutral and draw, my factory weight is 14gr, friend has the same head and he had a 12gr weight.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Golf works has the weights. But they are all pretty heavy. If you wanted a 2 weight setup the SW is going to be pretty high

> > > > >

> > > > > I have the 12g weight in the fade spot and 10g in draw. With a playing length of 44” the SW is about D7. I bought a 5.5g weight off eBay that will replace the 12g weight to get the SW back to a D4-5 level. Hopefully will have the weight later this week

> > > >

> > > > Got a link to the eBay item?

> > >

> > > https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273904320880

> > >

> > > Bought stuff from this seller before so I trust them.

> >

> > I have bought from this seller as well in the past. I bought replacement 410 weights him recently as well. They are in FL, I'm in NY. Bought these thinking they'd here 3-4 days from FL. NOPE.....tracking shows that the package left FL then went to CA. Just left CA to go to NY. I've shipped plenty to and from CA....it will be 5 days before I see this package. I just don't understand how USPS works anymore. To get a package from FL to NY it has to go to CA first? Or maybe it has to do with seller? Idk. I didn't have this issue last time I dealt with the seller.

>

> I’ve bought many adapters from this seller and never had that issue. Always ships within a day or so and reaches me in the DC area as fast as First Class can go. Sounds like some sort of mid-sort by USPS. We all know how reliable they are. :)

I've not only bought from him numerous times, I actually met the guy while I was in Fort Lauderdale on a trip as it was quicker than hoping the post would turn up on time. No hesitation in buying from him.

 

[cardoustie]

I never thought of two weights. Current driver running E0 so this could a good solution. Have extra 410 tips to try on some of my other aftermarket shafts as well. Thinking Aldila NL 60x and Blueboard 53x to start

FWIW .... My club delayed and now due here in 2 weeks. Total bummer

 

[Deuce78]

I'd be careful with some of the aftermarket tips, I got some 410 off Ebay and they clearly did not reach the top and bottom of the adjustment windows like the OEM ping ones do that come with the club.

[juggernaut0629]

Tracking shows its out for delivery. Shocking but extremely weird that the package went from FL to CA then to NY. I don't think it's the seller, as stated I didn't have any issues dealing with him before. I don't understand USPS thinking, but on the outside. & from the outside it doesn't seem make sense.

[Kev-Golfnut61]

> @buckeyefl said:

> For the better players that have an LST do you feel it plays close to stated loft or did they pull the higher loft than stated trick?

 

I have the 10.5 and feel like it plays that or just a bit lower. That may be because of the low spin. Love mine.

[sbjinx]

> @denvergolf said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > For the better players that have an LST do you feel it plays close to stated loft or did they pull the higher loft than stated trick?

>

> I hit the regular 9* 410 lower than an Epic Flash triple diamond 9* - fwiw

 

How does the TD compare to the 410. I hit my buddies 410 today and based on one swing I was pretty impressed.

 

 

[medici]

Are these available as an upcharge through ping?

> @endy said:

> > @drvrwdge said:

> > Initial impressions for me with the LST are just absolutely WOW!! I made a shaft change as well but the LST with the new rogue silver 130 60TX Seems to be giving me higher launch and visibly less spin than my 410+ Fuji Evo IV 661 combo. Will test on course tomorrow but it looked to be carrying about 10 yards farther and just wants to go straight or fall right a little.

>

> I’m torn right now between the Rogue Silver 130 MSI 70TX and AD VR 7X. They both seem like they are made for the G410 Head !!

 

[3_Jack_Par]

I’ve been playing around with some different settings, and the 130 MSI Rogue Silver 70TX with the weight in the neutral position with the adapter in the flat -1* setting (9* head) seems to be the most playable. I had been using it with the weight in the Draw setting, but found that tended to go left on me (I generally play a fade). I’m really loving this head/shaft combo, though. The 3 wood is even better than the driver.

[Kale_m]

I have a quick range session and 1 round on my g410+ and the Fuji pro 2.0 TS 6x. Need a good range session to get it tuned in. Potential though

[t4t3r]

> @"3 Jack Par" said:

> I’ve been playing around with some different settings, and the 130 MSI Rogue Silver 70TX with the weight in the neutral position with the adapter in the flat -1* setting (9* head) seems to be the most playable. I had been using it with the weight in the Draw setting, but found that tended to go left on me (I generally play a fade). I’m really loving this head/shaft combo, though. The 3 wood is even better than the driver.

 

LST 3W or the regular head?

[3_Jack_Par]

> @t4t3r said:

> > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > I’ve been playing around with some different settings, and the 130 MSI Rogue Silver 70TX with the weight in the neutral position with the adapter in the flat -1* setting (9* head) seems to be the most playable. I had been using it with the weight in the Draw setting, but found that tended to go left on me (I generally play a fade). I’m really loving this head/shaft combo, though. The 3 wood is even better than the driver.

>

> LST 3W or the regular head?

 

LST—it instantly kicked out my M2 Tour, which I had liked quite a bit