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  • kgeisler13kgeisler13 ClubWRX  402WRX Points: 69Handicap: 6Posts: 402 ClubWRX
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    On -, @Pete O'Tube said:

    Nice array of different makes and marks of clubs there!
    Kinda makes you think that hooking a hybrid is down to your setup, not the club maybe??

    Probably but we all have a "miss" right? I miss left so I want a hybrid that minimizes that miss and also not all of us have time to practice as much as others. I would love to be able to hit the range 3 or 4 times a week and groove my swing but I'm just happy to play at least 9 holes twice a week.

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    Callaway apex has the highest toe and most open face of any I’ve seen since the original idea pro.

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    Titleist 818 H1 can be very fade biased if weight and lie angles are set correctly. This is one of the reasons I purchased the 3 and 4-hybrid version.

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    Sounds like the Apex is my cup of tea. I still have my old adams might bust it out. I was not a fan of the Titleist 818 I use to have.

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  • coreyhrcoreyhr Lafferty, Daniel Members  619WRX Points: 277Handicap: +2.9Posts: 619 Golden Tee
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    If you want a cheaper, older option... Callaway XR Pro. Most anti-left hybrid I've ever had, and I've tried a whole lot of them. Doesn't point left at address like a lot of hybrids either.

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    I found the Mizuno CLK to be very anti-left for me. The flatter lie angle seems to do the trick. Of course, take this with a grain of salt as my entire bag is Mizuno.

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    On -, @BiggErn said:

    I have an F7 and it’s not a hook monster. I used driver logic (lofting up closes face angle and down opens it) and bought the version that I could loft down to get what I wanted out of it.

    I feel extremely stupid. After I went from 22 down to 19 I have found the F7 to be a great hybrid, I never connected the dots for why I couldn't hit the higher loft without yelling fore left.

    F7 lofted right is amazing.

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    I have the `19 and 22 G410's and agree that in the Flat setting, very hard to hook -- not saying I have not, but would consider those shots more of a "pull"

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    On -, @kgeisler13 said:

    On -, @Pete O'Tube said:

    Nice array of different makes and marks of clubs there!
    Kinda makes you think that hooking a hybrid is down to your setup, not the club maybe??

    Probably but we all have a "miss" right? I miss left so I want a hybrid that minimizes that miss and also not all of us have time to practice as much as others. I would love to be able to hit the range 3 or 4 times a week and groove my swing but I'm just happy to play at least 9 holes twice a week.

    Fair comment, best of luck finding a hybrid you like.

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  • BYKBYK Cardinals NationMembers  2164WRX Points: 330Posts: 2,164 Platinum Tees
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    Original Apex and X2hot pro both worked well for me in limiting left

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  • EaglesGolf99EaglesGolf99 Foxboro, MAMembers  2740WRX Points: 227Handicap: +0.8Posts: 2,740 Titanium Tees
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    Apex Hybrid (v. 2016)

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  • wkuo3wkuo3 RELEASE Members  4370WRX Points: 386Posts: 4,370 Titanium Tees
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    Either find someone who is willing to bend your favorite hybrid to proper lie angle or find a hybrid which had adjustable hotel feature.
    Hybrids had larger head hence the effect of a upright lie could be magnified ( aka hook machine ).
    Your can proof that by observing how your hybrid is interact with the turf ( mat). I'd bet 9 out of 10 your hybrid contact heavy on the he'll side of the sole. As most of the hy bird have upright lie angle.

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  • BiggErnBiggErn Members  2859WRX Points: 742Posts: 2,859 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @wkuo3 said:

    Either find someone who is willing to bend your favorite hybrid to proper lie angle or find a hybrid which had adjustable hotel feature.
    Hybrids had larger head hence the effect of a upright lie could be magnified ( aka hook machine ).
    Your can proof that by observing how your hybrid is interact with the turf ( mat). I'd bet 9 out of 10 your hybrid contact heavy on the he'll side of the sole. As most of the hy bird have upright lie angle.

    Lie angle affects direction far less on lower lofted clubs than it does higher lofted clubs. Lie angle may need adjusting but if you’re hitting 20+ yards off line it isn’t the lie angle.

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    On -, @BiggErn said:

    On -, @wkuo3 said:

    Either find someone who is willing to bend your favorite hybrid to proper lie angle or find a hybrid which had adjustable hotel feature.
    Hybrids had larger head hence the effect of a upright lie could be magnified ( aka hook machine ).
    Your can proof that by observing how your hybrid is interact with the turf ( mat). I'd bet 9 out of 10 your hybrid contact heavy on the he'll side of the sole. As most of the hy bird have upright lie angle.

    Lie angle affects direction far less on lower lofted clubs than it does higher lofted clubs. Lie angle may need adjusting but if you’re hitting 20+ yards off line it isn’t the lie angle.

    Are you positively certain on that ? Not from what I had seen. Low lofted club can contribute to clice , not hook. Heel pad caught on contact first will shut the club face in a hurry. Don;t try to confuse people here.

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    I went with the Ping G410 but it was not the hybrid as much as getting properly fitted for the right shaft (VA Composites Slay 7s)

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  • mogc60mogc60 Members  1018WRX Points: 492Posts: 1,018 Platinum Tees
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    Flatten it to not hook it? Hmmmm. That works yes but are you really getting square contact that way? Isn’t the idea to have it sole out rather flush through impact? I don’t get the issue with hybrids and hooks. It’s not the heads it’s the shafts. Too light and too long for the swing you’re trying to make. Anyone fighting a hook with a hybrid, I would suggest a shorter shaft, possibly up to an inch and a heavier shaft. That way you can make a more iron type swing with the ball in the right position and have the lie angle proper rather than a bandaid.

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    Callaway Big Bertha 2019. My 4i hybrid just goes straight. :)

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    Fairway woods: Callaway Epic Flash 5 and 7 wood
    Hybrids: Callaway Big Bertha 4i and 5i
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    same boat as you, my swing has an inherent default hook. Have to work with a closed stance for driver/woods, fade it when ob on left etc. Why a hybrid though ? have you tried a 3utility or a 5w sometimes those are less likely to hook than a hybrid, see what feels the best.

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  • phil75070phil75070 North Texas - 32m North of DallasMembers  2002WRX Points: 155Handicap: 4.6Posts: 2,002 Platinum Tees
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    The Callaway '19 Apex hybrid. Everyone who has hit it agrees it is neutral to fade biased.

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    Driver: Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 (-1/D)

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    5W: Callaway Epic Flash 18° (+1/N)

    Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha 4H (-1/N)

    Irons: Callaway Apex '19 5-AW

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    On -, @mogc60 said:

    Flatten it to not hook it? Hmmmm. That works yes but are you really getting square contact that way? Isn’t the idea to have it sole out rather flush through impact? I don’t get the issue with hybrids and hooks. It’s not the heads it’s the shafts. Too light and too long for the swing you’re trying to make. Anyone fighting a hook with a hybrid, I would suggest a shorter shaft, possibly up to an inch and a heavier shaft. That way you can make a more iron type swing with the ball in the right position and have the lie angle proper rather than a bandaid.

    Yea, but most hybrids are made for higher caps to avoid a slice. As such the lie angles are generally upright. If you're a guy like me who plays his irons nearly 3 flat, most hybrids will be way too upright and will promote draws/hooks

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    First hybrid (resue) I had was a TM RBZ, went great, just 40-50 yard hook every time, went back to a 5 wood and in the last year or so have tried again with a Callaway Big Bertha 17 degree, lofted down from 19, I think it's a 2016 model and more recently a Mizuno CLK 16 degree lofted down to 14, these 2 don't hook for me, apart from when you simply make a poor swing, they for the most part go straight or fade.

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    Agree with all the people that referenced the lie angle. Really pay attention to that and the flatter the better if you want to protect against the hook. I have Titleist 818 h1 and h2 and actually found the h1 is better against left miss, both set flat and lofted down(open face angle). OG Cally Apex was great as well, currently messing around around with 2019 apex hybrid and it seems extremely neutral or a slight fade bias. Obviously shaft choice matters as well, but so far I am liking new apex hybrid due to being able to hit high draw without fear of over cooking it.

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    On -, @dpb5031 said:

    On -, @mogc60 said:

    Flatten it to not hook it? Hmmmm. That works yes but are you really getting square contact that way? Isn’t the idea to have it sole out rather flush through impact? I don’t get the issue with hybrids and hooks. It’s not the heads it’s the shafts. Too light and too long for the swing you’re trying to make. Anyone fighting a hook with a hybrid, I would suggest a shorter shaft, possibly up to an inch and a heavier shaft. That way you can make a more iron type swing with the ball in the right position and have the lie angle proper rather than a bandaid.

    Yea, but most hybrids are made for higher caps to avoid a slice. As such the lie angles are generally upright. If you're a guy like me who plays his irons nearly 3 flat, most hybrids will be way too upright and will promote draws/hooks

    At 3* flat, yes your options get pretty slim to have it sit right. Just referring to intentionally having it be TOO flat to reduce a hook. Sounds like an intentional mishit to me. You’re raising 3/4 of the sole

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    PING Anser 3h and 4h have been in my bag for a long time and are clubs that I never even think of changing. Other clubs are always on their toes 😆

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    The only anti hook hybrid I have found is a 5 wood

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    On -, @Bensdad said:

    I found the Mizuno CLK to be very anti-left for me. The flatter lie angle seems to do the trick. Of course, take this with a grain of salt as my entire bag is Mizuno.

    +1

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    I'm a righty and my hybrids go right, as in slice city. Hence the Chronic Slicer handle lol. I did fix the driver though, well 85% of the time.

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    Let me know if you find one . In 20 years I’ve found one, Kasco K2k lol

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  • Oz MaxOz Max Members  292WRX Points: 153Handicap: 80'sPosts: 292 Greens
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    Another vote for the Apex hybrid, got a 2017 model and it's a lot harder to hook than my Mizzy jpx EZ (too upright)

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