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I know that if any part of the ball is touching the green, you can mark it. Today I had a ball that appeared to be touching the green. My competitors agreed it clearly looked to be touching the green. I marked and picked it up and discovered a tuft of grass under it that could not be seen. This was a fringe anomaly, not following the defined cut line. After the ball was marked and lifted it became clear that there was no way it was touching grass cut to the green height.

 

What is the ruling?

 

This was match play.

 

If it was medal play would the ruling be different?

 

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**Rules Issues in Match Play**

_Deciding Issues by Agreement. During a round without a referee assigned to your match, you and your opponent

may agree how to decide a Rules issue.

The agreed outcome stands provided you and your opponent did not deliberately agree to ignore any Rule or penalty you both knew applied._

 

I read this that the second paragraph applies as you did not agree to ignore the rule before you picked up the ball. But others may disagree.

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> @Newby said:

> **Rules Issues in Match Play**

> _Deciding Issues by Agreement. During a round without a referee assigned to your match, you and your opponent

> may agree how to decide a Rules issue.

> The agreed outcome stands provided you and your opponent did not deliberately agree to ignore any Rule or penalty you both knew applied._

>

> I read this that the second paragraph applies as you did not agree to ignore the rule before you picked up the ball. But others may disagree.

 

Yup, unless the agreement is premeditated ignorance of a rule, agreements mostly overrule these types of situations in match play.

 

Still a penalty in stroke though. I’ve had this happen in a casual round, and don’t mark balls within 1 - 2 inches of the cut line because of it (I’ll sometimes risk it to clean a mud ball but that’s about it)

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While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

 

From the full definition of putting green:

The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

 

Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

 

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Very preceptive comments Sawgrass. I am not sure the answer, but I tend to agree it is a pretty grey area between part of the fringe or imperfection.

 

In the end it did not matter for the match I was in. It was a best ball event and my partner needed making the the same score I did.

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> @Sawgrass said:

> While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

>

> From the full definition of putting green:

> The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

>

> Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

>

 

Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

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> @rogolf said:

 

> Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

 

Hmm. Not sure if you're right or wrong, but this made me think of another scenario. Your ball comes to rest on top of a leaf on the putting green...can you lift it?

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> @jacob7071 said:

> > @rogolf said:

>

> > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

>

> Hmm. Not sure if you're right or wrong, but this made me think of another scenario. Your ball comes to rest on top of a leaf on the putting green...can you lift it?

 

Why guess, when it's there for all the world to see?

 

13.1 Actions Allowed or Required on Putting Greens

a. When Ball Is on Putting Green

A ball is on the putting green when any part of the ball:

Touches the putting green, or

Lies on or in anything (such as a loose impediment or an obstruction) and is inside the edge of the putting green.

 

https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rules-and-interpretations.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=13

 

Knowledge of the Rules is part of the applied skill set which a player must use to play competitive golf.

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> @"sui generis" said:

> > @jacob7071 said:

> > > @rogolf said:

> >

> > > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

> >

> > Hmm. Not sure if you're right or wrong, but this made me think of another scenario. Your ball comes to rest on top of a leaf on the putting green...can you lift it?

>

> Why guess, when it's there for all the world to see?

>

> 13.1 Actions Allowed or Required on Putting Greens

> a. When Ball Is on Putting Green

> A ball is on the putting green when any part of the ball:

> Touches the putting green, or

> Lies on or in anything (such as a loose impediment or an obstruction) and is inside the edge of the putting green.

>

> https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/rules-of-golf/rules-and-interpretations.html#!ruletype=fr&section=rule&rulenum=13

>

Ha. When you say it, I sound lazy. Thanks for the link.

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> @rogolf said:

> > @Sawgrass said:

> > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> >

> > From the full definition of putting green:

> > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> >

> > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> >

>

> Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

 

To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

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> @2bGood said:

> > @rogolf said:

> > > @Sawgrass said:

> > > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> > >

> > > From the full definition of putting green:

> > > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> > >

> > > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> > >

> >

> > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

>

> To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

 

The above question of yours puts the issue in dramatic focus, and is the basis of my permissive position on the issue.

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> @2bGood said:

> > @rogolf said:

> > > @Sawgrass said:

> > > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> > >

> > > From the full definition of putting green:

> > > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> > >

> > > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> > >

> >

> > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

>

> To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

 

No, because it is clearly within the perimeter of the green. Your ball/situation was not. The careful player wouldn't mark and lift when there is any doubt.

The perimeter of a cutting green can change from day to day depending on the precision of the person doing the mowing.

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> @rogolf said:

> > @2bGood said:

> > > @rogolf said:

> > > > @Sawgrass said:

> > > > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> > > >

> > > > From the full definition of putting green:

> > > > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> > > >

> > > > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

> >

> > To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

>

> No, because it is clearly within the perimeter of the green. Your ball/situation was not. The careful player wouldn't mark and lift when there is any doubt.

> The perimeter of a cutting green can change from day to day depending on the precision of the person doing the mowing.

 

Wasn’t this imperfection within the perimeter of the green? And didn’t this “careful player” remove any doubt by virtue of his opponent agreeing his ball was on the green?

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> @rogolf said:

> > @2bGood said:

> > > @rogolf said:

> > > > @Sawgrass said:

> > > > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> > > >

> > > > From the full definition of putting green:

> > > > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> > > >

> > > > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

> >

> > To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

>

> No, because it is clearly within the perimeter of the green. Your ball/situation was not. The careful player wouldn't mark and lift when there is any doubt.

> The perimeter of a cutting green can change from day to day depending on the precision of the person doing the mowing.

 

To be clear my ball was "clearly within the perimeter of the green". about 7/8 were within the perimeter. 2 people competing against me confirmed it. Then when lifted it was found a tuft of grass jutted out from the permitter and the ball was sitting on it. Best way I can describe it is that my ball was sitting on Florida with the fringe being a US map and the water being the green. Obviously not as long as Florida but the weird little jutting out form a clearly defined edge.

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> @2bGood said:

> > @rogolf said:

> > > @2bGood said:

> > > > @rogolf said:

> > > > > @Sawgrass said:

> > > > > While I agree with Newby that in match play two players may come to a (potentially) legitimate conclusion about the area of the course where a ball resides and have that agreement stand (much like calling a ref over in stroke play regarding the green/no green issue and abiding by his "green" ruling) I think there may be more to this.

> > > > >

> > > > > From the full definition of putting green:

> > > > > The edge of a putting green is defined by where it can be seen that the specially prepared area starts (such as where the grass has been distinctly cut to show the edge), unless the Committee defines the edge in a different way (such as by using a line or dots).

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, as I read the OP there was a small mowing anomaly directly under the ball, so small that it wasn't seen with the ball in place. And there was a well defined edge either side. The question then becomes, does the surface of the green technically follow the bit of unmowned grass and jog toward the interior of the green leaving a ball-shaped general area intrustion? Or is the unmowed grass simply an imperfection on the green? (The definition of a putting green does not include any mention of perfection in preparation.) In my mind's eye, this higher grass is still part of the green based on where the edge cut on either side of the anomaly shows it to be.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Imo, the ball needs to be touching the surface of the "specially-prepared" putting green and, in this case, it wasn't - result is an unfortunate one stroke penalty. When in doubt, don't mark and lift.

> > >

> > > To the point above, some times you find anomalies on the green. If this same tuft of grass was on the middle of the green, would your view change?

> >

> > No, because it is clearly within the perimeter of the green. Your ball/situation was not. The careful player wouldn't mark and lift when there is any doubt.

> > The perimeter of a cutting green can change from day to day depending on the precision of the person doing the mowing.

>

> To be clear my ball was "clearly within the perimeter of the green". about 7/8 were within the perimeter. 2 people competing against me confirmed it. Then when lifted it was found a tuft of grass jutted out from the permitter and the ball was sitting on it. Best way I can describe it is that my ball was sitting on Florida with the fringe being a US map and the water being the green. Obviously not as long as Florida but the weird little jutting out form a clearly defined edge.

 

Whatever. I've given my ruling and reasoning. And, imo, whether your opponents agreed or not isn't important to the ruling.

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In match play it is of course important to the ruling, if my competitors agree it was on the green. For medal play it is a much more interesting discussion.

 

I am tending to agree sawgrass on this one at this stage. A flip side example I have seen is when there is a dead patch that stretches from the green to the fringe. Grass height will not tell you where the green starts and ends so you have to rely on the established edge from outside that area.

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> @2bGood said:

> I know that if any part of the ball is touching the green, you can mark it. Today I had a ball that appeared to be touching the green. My competitors agreed it clearly looked to be touching the green. I marked and picked it up and discovered a tuft of grass under it that could not be seen. This was a fringe anomaly, not following the defined cut line. After the ball was marked and lifted it became clear that there was no way it was touching grass cut to the green height.

>

> What is the ruling?

>

> This was match play.

>

> If it was medal play would the ruling be different?

>

 

In match play, with a few exceptions, there's no need to consult your opponent before taking an action. Your opponent has a duty to him or herself to pay attention and object (ask for a ruling).

Knowledge of the Rules is part of the applied skill set which a player must use to play competitive golf.

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Interesting thread, thank you @2bGood. The remaining bone of contention in the discussion comes down to interpretation of what is the "specially prepared" surface and, specifically, does a fresh mower cut on a certain day re-define the edge of the green? I'm not aware of any specific guidance on this or whether it has arisen in a significant tournament context, but my inherent view is any clearly visible 'normal' fringe line defines the specially prepared surface, not whether the person on the mower sneezed and missed the correct line. My view is coloured by a practice that is not uncommon in these parts - the pre-competition mowing on a weekend (under time pressure to get the job done) just using straight parallel cut lines and do not run the mower around the fringe at all. Result is a saw-tooth cut line around the perimeter of the green so it would make no sense to re-interpret the dimensions of the green on this basis.

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> @antip said:

> Interesting thread, thank you @2bGood. The remaining bone of contention in the discussion comes down to interpretation of what is the "specially prepared" surface and, specifically, does a fresh mower cut on a certain day re-define the edge of the green? I'm not aware of any specific guidance on this or whether it has arisen in a significant tournament context, but my inherent view is any clearly visible 'normal' fringe line defines the specially prepared surface, not whether the person on the mower sneezed and missed the correct line. My view is coloured by a practice that is not uncommon in these parts - the pre-competition mowing on a weekend (under time pressure to get the job done) just using straight parallel cut lines and do not run the mower around the fringe at all. Result is a saw-tooth cut line around the perimeter of the green so it would make no sense to re-interpret the dimensions of the green on this basis.

 

Not doing a "clean-up cut" (final cut around the edge of the green) for a competition round should be totally unacceptable and only adds to player confusion. The Committee should do everything possible to make it easy for the competitors to play within the Rules.

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I’m with rogolf completely on this one.

 

Even in match play, with both of your opponents coming over and saying “That’s on the green” and the other says “that’s on the green” and then you say thanks, and lift it, and now KNOW it wasn’t on the green, you can’t agree to waive the penalty.

 

All 3 of you were just wrong. Which happens. But you have to apply the penalty. Didn’t change the outcome at all due to partners ball as said.

 

But when it’s close, don’t mark it. Just play it. Problem solved.

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> @antip said:

> Interesting thread, thank you @2bGood. The remaining bone of contention in the discussion comes down to interpretation of what is the "specially prepared" surface and, specifically, does a fresh mower cut on a certain day re-define the edge of the green? I'm not aware of any specific guidance on this or whether it has arisen in a significant tournament context, but my inherent view is any clearly visible 'normal' fringe line defines the specially prepared surface, not whether the person on the mower sneezed and missed the correct line. My view is coloured by a practice that is not uncommon in these parts - the pre-competition mowing on a weekend (under time pressure to get the job done) just using straight parallel cut lines and do not run the mower around the fringe at all. Result is a saw-tooth cut line around the perimeter of the green so it would make no sense to re-interpret the dimensions of the green on this basis.

 

Thanks, I try not to post clear cut (no pun intended) situations

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> @rogolf said:

> > @antip said:

> > Interesting thread, thank you @2bGood. The remaining bone of contention in the discussion comes down to interpretation of what is the "specially prepared" surface and, specifically, does a fresh mower cut on a certain day re-define the edge of the green? I'm not aware of any specific guidance on this or whether it has arisen in a significant tournament context, but my inherent view is any clearly visible 'normal' fringe line defines the specially prepared surface, not whether the person on the mower sneezed and missed the correct line. My view is coloured by a practice that is not uncommon in these parts - the pre-competition mowing on a weekend (under time pressure to get the job done) just using straight parallel cut lines and do not run the mower around the fringe at all. Result is a saw-tooth cut line around the perimeter of the green so it would make no sense to re-interpret the dimensions of the green on this basis.

>

> Not doing a "clean-up cut" (final cut around the edge of the green) for a competition round should be totally unacceptable and only adds to player confusion. The Committee should do everything possible to make it easy for the competitors to play within the Rules.

 

This was in a club match play event that could be played anytime in a 2 week period the course was not special prepared for tournament play.

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> @Augster said:

> I’m with rogolf completely on this one.

>

> Even in match play, with both of your opponents coming over and saying “That’s on the green” and the other says “that’s on the green” and then you say thanks, and lift it, and now KNOW it wasn’t on the green, you can’t agree to waive the penalty.

>

> All 3 of you were just wrong. Which happens. But you have to apply the penalty. Didn’t change the outcome at all due to partners ball as said.

>

> But when it’s close, don’t mark it. Just play it. Problem solved.

 

 

Problem is even after I lifted my competitors agreed I was on the green despite being on the 'anomaly'.

 

It did not matter as my partner made his putt, so the issue never went further than that as I was putting after him.

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IMO, this would be an excellent question to put to the USGA phone in service. Were I a US resident, I would be volunteering.

In the absence of such a ruling, intuitively, I can find no logic in 'empowering' any first year apprentice greenkeeper mowing the greens to redefine the edge of the greens with every turn of the controls.

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> @Augster said:

> I’m with rogolf completely on this one.

>

> Even in match play, with both of your opponents coming over and saying “That’s on the green” and the other says “that’s on the green” and then you say thanks, and lift it, and now KNOW it wasn’t on the green, you can’t agree to waive the penalty.

>

> All 3 of you were just wrong. Which happens. But you have to apply the penalty. Didn’t change the outcome at all due to partners ball as said.

>

> But when it’s close, don’t mark it. Just play it. Problem solved.

 

I don't know how you can say in your example that the players end up "knowing" the ball wasn't on the green. They absolutely did not "know" that, in fact, one of the player's confusion caused him to write this OP.

 

Beyond this, and my preceding belief that this ball (which I see as tangentially touching the inside of the "circle" of the green) is on the green, there is this to consider from 1.3b(2) regarding the accurate determination of the ball's location under the rules:

 

 

"So long as the player does what can be reasonably expected under the circumstances to make an accurate determination, the player’s reasonable judgment will be accepted even if, after the stroke is made, the determination is shown to be wrong by video evidence or other information."

 

 

In this case, not only the player but his opponent behaved in a reasonable way and came to a determination.

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Nice pull sawgrass. Very helpful in this instance.

 

I am actually kind of surprised that there is no specific ruling about this. My specific instance was just really weird the way the green was cut, but I have played plenty of Links courses where there is no height difference between the green cut and the fairway cut and you have to use you best judgement on where the green starts.

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> @Twism86 said:

> You all agreed it was mark-able to best of your knowledge. Go with that. Keep golf fun, dont be a rules grouch!

>

 

> @Twism86 said:

> You all agreed it was mark-able to best of your knowledge. Go with that. Keep golf fun, dont be a rules grouch!

>

 

Agreed. I think one should know with virtual certainty that a rule was broken in order to assess a penalty. Need to give the player the benefit of any doubt.

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      2024 Texas Children's Houston Open - Tuesday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Thorbjorn Olesen - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ben Silverman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jesse Droemer - SoTX PGA Section POY - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      David Lipsky - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Martin Trainer - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jacob Bridgeman - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Trace Crowe - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Jimmy Walker - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Daniel Berger - WITB(very mini) - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Chesson Hadley - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Callum McNeill - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Rhein Gibson - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Patrick Fishburn - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Peter Malnati - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Raul Pereda - WITB - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Gary Woodland WITB (New driver, iron shafts) – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Padraig Harrington WITB – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Tom Hoge's custom Cameron - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Piretti putters - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Ping putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Kevin Dougherty's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Bettinardi putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Cameron putter - 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Erik Barnes testing an all-black Axis1 putter – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
      Tony Finau's new driver shaft – 2024 Texas Children's Houston Open
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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