Anti hook hybrid.

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  • GolfjackGolfjack All about the rotation Members  1564WRX Points: 469Posts: 1,564 Platinum Tees
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    Hm... just find one that's not a GI hybrid (those usually have faces more closed), and also one with possible adjustable weights that you can make fade bias. Whenever a hook happens it's just me getting too handsy and flipping it, overmanipulating the clubface. Set them down at address and see if for your lie angle the face is closed or not.

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    On -, @Zach Heusser said:

    Let me know if you find one . In 20 years I’ve found one, Kasco K2k lol

    Legendary 😉

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    Kasco K2K 33 - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
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    On -, @knackers said:

    same boat as you, my swing has an inherent default hook. Have to work with a closed stance for driver/woods, fade it when ob on left etc. Why a hybrid though ? have you tried a 3utility or a 5w sometimes those are less likely to hook than a hybrid, see what feels the best.

    I have a 3 utility that is in the bag but it betrayed me in a member guest and I was blocking it I was going to experiment with a 4 hybrid to see if I get a more constant shot even if its always a draw.

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  • KonkliferKonklifer Thinkin' of a master plan... Members  8043WRX Points: 625Posts: 8,043 Titanium Tees
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    As many others have mentioned, the G410 is it. I have a 19* set -1 degree strong and flat. I hit straight bullets off the tee and it is a beauty out of any lie.

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  • WestCoastSeminoleWestCoastSeminole Aspiring "Cocktail Tour" Player San Francisco, CAMembers  174WRX Points: 54Posts: 174 Fairways
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    I hooked every hybrid I hit for years. About four years ago, I was fitted for and purchased a 19* Titleist 816H2 hybrid right as that line was debuting. The fitter's solution for the hook problem was simple: 1. Adjust the adjustable hosel to the flattest setting and 2. Use a shorter shaft (the fitter ordered a standard length shaft for a 21* rather than the 19* I was getting). The second point, in my opinion, is the key because the shorter shaft results in an effectively "flatter" lie. I believe you can take any hybrid and make it anti-hook by cutting it down a half-inch or an inch from standard, provided it doesn't make the shaft too stiff.

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    On -, @mallrat said:


    Taylormade GAPR Lo. I couldn't hit that thing high enough to hook or slice. It was 25 yards of carry right down the middle, every time.

    25 yards of carry is plain awesome. Everyone should have that club in their bag.

    I can't seem to knock it out of the bag, no matter how hard I try.

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  • Nixhex524Nixhex524 ClubWRX  4759WRX Points: 520Handicap: 4Posts: 4,759 ClubWRX
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    Anyone finding that the TM m1/3 hybrids with the weight all the way at the toe helps much? I like my 915hd but if I get a little flat on my swing plane, that thing is going left. I'm working on it but looking for a little anti-left as well. I have an 816 h1 that has been mostly anti left but it's a bomber and doesn't quite fit the gaps. Any feedback on the 21* M1/3 series?

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    Taylormade M2 '17 10.5*
    Titleist 917f2 16.5* 
    Titleist 915h 21* 
    Bridgestone J15 CB 4-P
    Titleist Vokey SM5 50, SM7 56
    Odyssey Toulon Palm Beach 34"
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    G25, never could hit one left. I haven't tried any of the new ones but I would assume they're similar.

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    Ping G 17.5 Rombax P95x
    Ping i500 3/4 PX LZ 6.5
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  • Bobb3rdownBobb3rdown Bothell, WAMembers  763WRX Points: 210Posts: 763 Golden Tee
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    I find my titleist 816h2 19 and Adams pro minis 20, 23 to be flatter. The titleist I have in c1, 1 degree flat and down 1 degree in loft. The Adam's are both glued hosels. Only time I hook anything is when I make a bad swing. I've never felt a hybrid to be draw biased. But the flatter lie has given me a better position at address which helps with confidence.

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    Callaway Rouge Sub Zero 15
    Cobra F6 Baffler 18.5
    Adams Pro Mini 23
    Bridgestone Tour B X-CB 5-pw 
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  • mwink822mwink822 Members  2699WRX Points: 157Posts: 2,699 Titanium Tees
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    A couple older options, Adams Pro A12 and Titleist PT 585H are good neutral hybrids. I played an Adams Pro A12 for a good while and only moved away from it because it didn't gap quite right in the top of my bag. My experience with the PT 585H is limited to having swung a few demo clubs, but it was always a very solid point and shoot type of club. I also had good luck with the Titleist 915 hybrids, but moved away from them in favor of long irons which I can flight lower with a lot more ease than a hybrid.

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    Titleist TS4 8.5* Diamana D+ LTD 70 X
    Titleist 917F2 18* (turned down to 17.25*) Diamana S+ 80X
    4 - 718 Titleist AP3 Project X 6.0
    4-P 718 Titleist AP2 Project X 6.0
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  • orangeologyorangeology Category II Hoarder NY NJMembers  761WRX Points: 161Handicap: 14Posts: 761 Golden Tee
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    don't really think there's any 'anti-hook' hybrid, IMO. however, after changing the shaft to steel—i have X100 for my hybrid—it diminished drastically. part of me thinks it's those graphite shafts making hybrid shots 1. ballooning & 2. hooking. although not backed by any reliable science. and maybe the swing? we tend to 'scoop' other than 'broom' when hitting in the 'hybrid occasions', right?

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    **Driver
    Callaway XR16 Pro TC 9º + Fujikura Six Tour Spec X

    Woods/Hybrids
    Callaway Rogue TC 14.7º + Fujikura Pro Tour Spec TI 6X
    Adams Super LS Speedline TI 14º + Aldila RIP'd NV 7 TX
    Royal Collection 505V BBD Hybrid #2 18º + NS PRO 950W X

    Irons
    TM TP UDI #2 18º + DG TI X100
    Nike VFP 4 + HZRDUS HC Black 95 6.5
    Nike VFP 5 + DG TI X100
    Nike VP Forged Blades 6–P + DG TI X100

    Nike VR Pro II Blades + DG TI X100 3-P

    Wedges
    Scratch 8620 47º 50º 56º DG S300 / Scratch STI 60º + DG TI S400

    Putters
    Scotty CLN, Edel The Brick

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  • jgpljgpl Members  734WRX Points: 96Posts: 734 Golden Tee
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    I still have a 910H 17deg with a steel PX6.5 shaft in the bag - low, stinger bullets all day and un-hookable
    Everyone laughs when they see it, but it a brute
    I also had a SLDR 19 deg with TP 93g Fuji shaft and this was also un-hookable, really underrated hybrid if you are strong
    G410 hybrid........mine lasted 1 round, even with an x-flex tense white it was hook, after hook, after hook....

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  • sergizmosergizmo Members  2763WRX Points: 158Posts: 2,763 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @Bobb3rdown said:

    I find my titleist 816h2 19 and Adams pro minis 20, 23 to be flatter. The titleist I have in c1, 1 degree flat and down 1 degree in loft. The Adam's are both glued hosels. Only time I hook anything is when I make a bad swing. I've never felt a hybrid to be draw biased. But the flatter lie has given me a better position at address which helps with confidence.

    2nd the Adams Pro Minis. I have a 20* and it takes a lousy swing to get a hook. As someone with a draw bias, it took a while for me to find a playable hybrid.
    The wear of the black finish on the leading edge of mine is even, which indicates a reasonably flat lie angle.

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  • NessismNessism To measure is to know... Members  19530WRX Points: 1,612Posts: 19,530 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @orangeology said:

    don't really think there's any 'anti-hook' hybrid, IMO. however, after changing the shaft to steel—i have X100 for my hybrid—it diminished drastically. part of me thinks it's those graphite shafts making hybrid shots 1. ballooning & 2. hooking. although not backed by any reliable science. and maybe the swing? we tend to 'scoop' other than 'broom' when hitting in the 'hybrid occasions', right?

    Reliable science with regard to golf clubs? Um, NO. I can tell you though that I ditched my TEE Pro U hybrid head and slammed a Cobra F7 head on the same shaft and it transformed the club completely. Gone is the tendency to hook with every shot replaced with straight and high bombs.

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    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 5 wood w/Aldila Rogue Black 70S
    Cobra (Lexi blue) F7 Hybrid w/Aldila Kuro Kage 80S
    Ping G410 irons w/Recoil 95S
    Ping Glide 55/60 wedges w/Recoil 110S
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  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered  4286WRX Points: 379Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    The best anti-hook hybrid is a 5-wood. 🙂

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  • ChemistChemist Members  13WRX Points: 18Handicap: 4Posts: 13 Bunkers
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    Taylormade Rescue Mid TP, Titleist 585h, Adams Pro Black 9031, Nike Covert.
    All of the above I've found give me the least problems towards the left side of the course.
    And yes, agree with the other posts about swing issues and how you use these clubs, I also found that its best to hit a bit down on them like an iron.

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  • jmkortingjmkorting East LansingMembers  63WRX Points: 28Handicap: 23Posts: 63 Bunkers
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    Although I don't have the issue of a hook I am more prone to slice the ball I do find that the G410 hybrids are awesome. The adjust ability of them (standard, lofted up or down, or flattened) is what I think makes them great for either a slicer or one who hooks the ball.
    I have mine lofted up as I found that suites my swing the best. The flat neutral setting will flatten the lie by 3* and the flat +1 or -1 will flatten the lie by 2* (this is per Ping customer service). Mine are lofted up as mentioned for my swing and also for my loft gapping between each club. I also have mine shortened to the length of their iron replacement. I find this helps me hit them the yardage that i need them to go.

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    Driver - Rogue Draw 9* / Kuro Kage Black Dual core TiNi 50S
    Hybrid(s) - Callaway Super Hybrid 17* (set at 16) / KBS Prototype 65R
    Callaway Super Hybrid 20
    (set @ 20) / KBS Prototype 65R
    Callaway Super Hybrid 23
    (set @ 24) / KBS Prototype 75R
    Taylormade RBZ 28
    / Paderson Kinetixx TS-H
    G410 6H (set @ 31.5) / Paderson KINETIXX TS-I
    Pindemeadow 8H (36
    ) & 9H (40) / Paderson KINETIXX TS-I
    Wedges - Cleveland CBX 2 46
    / TT DG 115
    Cleveland Smart Sole 4.0 G wedge (50) / TT DG TI S400 @ 35.5"
    Cleveland Smart Sole 4.0 S wedge (58
    ) / TT DG TI S400 @ 35"
    Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 C wedge / TT DG TI S400 @ 34"
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    On -, @matchavez said:

    The best anti-hook hybrid is a 5-wood. 🙂

    I think a 5 wood would not be good for the gaping I'n looking for. I'd probably have t get a 7 wood lol

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    On -, @golfinguru11 said:

    Callaway apex has the highest toe and most open face of any I’ve seen since the original idea pro.

    And a hook machine.

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    On -, @jbandalo said:

    Callaway Apex in my experience, is as hook prone as they come.

    Spot on!

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    I bought a 23 degree adams idea pro online for like $45 to experiment with.

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    On -, @Nixhex524 said:

    Anyone finding that the TM m1/3 hybrids with the weight all the way at the toe helps much? I like my 915hd but if I get a little flat on my swing plane, that thing is going left. I'm working on it but looking for a little anti-left as well. I have an 816 h1 that has been mostly anti left but it's a bomber and doesn't quite fit the gaps. Any feedback on the 21* M1/3 series?

    I have the M3 19* hybrid. I put an x-flex shaft in it and can't hook it with the weight in the neutral setting. I do have it clicked down .75*, which I believe puts the lie angle flatter and face more open. With weight in the toe, easy to hit a fade. I'd recommend one, solid hybrids.

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    On -, @MTgolf said:

    On -, @Nixhex524 said:

    Anyone finding that the TM m1/3 hybrids with the weight all the way at the toe helps much? I like my 915hd but if I get a little flat on my swing plane, that thing is going left. I'm working on it but looking for a little anti-left as well. I have an 816 h1 that has been mostly anti left but it's a bomber and doesn't quite fit the gaps. Any feedback on the 21* M1/3 series?

    I have the M3 19* hybrid. I put an x-flex shaft in it and can't hook it with the weight in the neutral setting. I do have it clicked down .75*, which I believe puts the lie angle flatter and face more open. With weight in the toe, easy to hit a fade. I'd recommend one, solid hybrids.

    Thanks! I saw the M3 in person yesterday, really like the look of it, and I like the idea of an X in there. Played my 913h 21 with an X flex and it was hard to hook, too. I found a J40 21* in the used bin for dirt cheap so I'm going to give that a go and if that doesn't work, I am going to give the TM a try.

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    Taylormade M2 '17 10.5*
    Titleist 917f2 16.5* 
    Titleist 915h 21* 
    Bridgestone J15 CB 4-P
    Titleist Vokey SM5 50, SM7 56
    Odyssey Toulon Palm Beach 34"
    Srixon Z85 stand bag
  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 MaineMembers  20334WRX Points: 903Posts: 20,334 Titanium Tees
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    Mizuno CLK for me, 2017 model. Go back a little further and find some MP-650 hybrids. I challenge anyone to hook those.

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    On -, @dpb5031 said:

    On -, @mogc60 said:

    Flatten it to not hook it? Hmmmm. That works yes but are you really getting square contact that way? Isn’t the idea to have it sole out rather flush through impact? I don’t get the issue with hybrids and hooks. It’s not the heads it’s the shafts. Too light and too long for the swing you’re trying to make. Anyone fighting a hook with a hybrid, I would suggest a shorter shaft, possibly up to an inch and a heavier shaft. That way you can make a more iron type swing with the ball in the right position and have the lie angle proper rather than a bandaid.

    Yea, but most hybrids are made for higher caps to avoid a slice. As such the lie angles are generally upright. If you're a guy like me who plays his irons nearly 3 flat, most hybrids will be way too upright and will promote draws/hooks

    I have an Adams Pro 20 that is 2 degrees flat. Was thinking about selling it since it doesn't get used, but maybe need to keep in case I start over drawing.....

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    On -, @SubaruWRX said:

    On -, @Kingcat990 said:

    See how practically every hybrid was mentioned?

    I just have to ask OP, when you hit your hybrid, do you hit down on the ball like you would an iron? Or do you sweep at the ball like you would with a fairway?

    Bingo. Fix the swing.

    Hybrids don’t go left, swings make them go left.

    That’s a false statement.

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    I pick 14 of the following:
    Ping G400
    Callaway Epic Flash 3w 
    Ping G410 5 and 7 wood
    Callaway Apex 23*
    Ping G 4-U
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
    Grips NDMC +4
    Odyssey Pro #1 black
    Hoofer
    ProV1x-mostly
    ECCO Biom Hybrid 3
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  • Big BenBig Ben Members  9350WRX Points: 518Handicap: 5Posts: 9,350 Titanium Tees
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    I have a super clean tour issue Adams 22* bent flat on the tour van just sitting in the basement. If anyone wants it send me a PM. I PROMISE this sucker is way anti-hook all day long. It was one of the last models prior to the Borg assimilating them. BB

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
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    I never got along with hybrids, they were always prone to go left and never got the height I needed. I must have tried a dozen and still have at least a 1/2 a dozen in the basement over the years. Until I demoed the Ping G410 set in the flat lie setting. Ball trajectory is straight and high and it cuts through the rough like a sickle.

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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers  4176WRX Points: 252Handicap: 10.5Posts: 4,176 Titanium Tees
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    I know they won’t get much traction on here but the Tour Edge HL3 hybrids. I draw or hook every hybrid I try. The only one I couldn’t turn over with my stock swing was the HL3. They are dirt cheap and distance wise was as long as anything I’ve tried.

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    Callaway Epic Flash 12*

    Callaway Epic Flash Heavenwood

    Exotics Xrail  4h | 5h

    Cobra  T-Rail 6-SW

    Cleveland CBX 60* 

    Callaway Sure Out 64*

    Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4 Platinum

    Titleist ProV1x Yellow

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    I gave up after 20 years and switched to all fairway woods. I am playing 3HL/5HL/7HL M4's.

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