How good will Matthew Wolff be?

[snizzle]

> @"John K." said:

> Can't believe Wolff didn't qualify for The Open....

> https://www.golfdigest.com/story/british-open-2019-why-matthew-wolff-is-not-in-the-field-at-royal-portrush-and-no-it-doesnt-seem-fair

 

I could see both Wolff and Morakawa doing really well at the Open too despite their age. Kind of a shame that the 3M wasn't part of the Open qualifying.

[GoGoErky]

> @snizzle said:

> > @GoGoErky said:

> > > @GolfChannel said:

> > > Looking like Hovland will have to go to KFC finals to get his card. Insane he gets zero points for his performances at Augusta, Bayhill, and the US Open.

> >

> > Can’t earn points if you aren’t a pro. Iirc he was a junior this year so he still had a chance of going back to school. How do you award points to an am that may not turn pro

>

> I think they could keep track of *potential* points similar to how they track non member points? It would require a little more bookkeeping by the tour though.

> Hovland is playing so well I don't think it should be a major hurdle to get his card thru the KF Finals if he has to go that route. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a top 3 at the Wyndham Championship to earn his card that way too..

 

They do keep track of them for pros. As anamatuer you can’t earn money so you can’t earn points.

[pinhigh27]

Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

 

 

[Jack Pearsall]

This makes him think of Garry Woodland back when he was coming up...

[MK7Golf21]

 

> @pinhigh27 said:

> Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

>

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not sure about am's getting points but I know once Wolff won and was pga member, he got the points from his previous pga starts as well for 2019. He only made the cut in one of them, waste management, so was only like a couple extra points.

[GoGoErky]

> @pinhigh27 said:

> Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

>

>

Because they are ams and don’t have any claim to potential membership at the time. They can’t go back and retroactively get the money for the spot they finished in and thus can’t claim the points either.

 

If they won as an amateur they dont get pga membership and the exemptions that come with it.

 

[Darth Putter]

The PGA membership rules are there to protect the current membership, not advance the cause of potential future members.

[Krt22]

He will get his chance soon enough. People gripe when certain players get exemptions, and they will gripe when they don't.

[KRAMER1997]

He'll win a major before Rickie.

[grm24]

> @Redjeep83 said:

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> > @pinhigh27 said:

> > Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

> >

> >

> not sure about am's getting points but I know once Wolff won and was pga member, he got the points from his previous pga starts as well for 2019. He only made the cut in one of them, waste management, so was only like a couple extra points.

 

Wolff received zero points from the WMO as he was an amateur. Wolff currently has 517 FEC points. 500 from his 3M win, 15 from the John Deere and 2 from The Travelers.

[grm24]

> @GoGoErky said:

> **If they won as an amateur they dont get pga membership and the exemptions that come with it.**

>

Yes they do. Scott Verplank and Phil Mickelson both received the two year exemption that came from winning a PGA Tour event as an amateur.

 

[MK7Golf21]

> @grm24 said:

> > @Redjeep83 said:

> >

> > > @pinhigh27 said:

> > > Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

> > >

> > >

> > not sure about am's getting points but I know once Wolff won and was pga member, he got the points from his previous pga starts as well for 2019. He only made the cut in one of them, waste management, so was only like a couple extra points.

>

> Wolff received zero points from the WMO as he was an amateur. Wolff currently has 517 FEC points. 500 from his 3M win, 15 from the John Deere and 2 from The Travelers.

 

Oh ok, yea I knew he got a couple somwhere

 

 

[jdl]

> @pinhigh27 said:

> Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

>

>

 

If you want the rewards that come with being a professional golfer, then you need to ....... become a professional golfer. Gaining access to top tournaments due to accomplishments as an amateur and then try to claim pro benefits? Yeah, that's not going to fly.

[Golfjack]

> @jdl said:

> > @pinhigh27 said:

> > Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

> >

> >

>

> If you want the rewards that come with being a professional golfer, then you need to ....... become a professional golfer. Gaining access to top tournaments due to accomplishments as an amateur and then try to claim pro benefits? Yeah, that's not going to fly.

 

Yeah I don't get why people keep wanting amateurs to get pro perks. There's a reason why turning pro is a big decision. If amateurs can just keep getting perks why would they turn pro? Just like Wolff et al, they got some tournament exemptions to gain points because they were top amateurs (they did turn pro, thus exemptions). Their tournaments as amateurs don't count. They didn't get paid, because they were amateurs, and don't get points because of that. Money is the literal differentiator between am and pro. Not sure why @pinhigh27 doesn't get that. Some girl got in trouble for being in a Nike ad even though she didn't even get paid. Rules go both ways.

[mjen43]

Amateurism is an antiquated concept that needs to die. It benefits nobody but the people profiting off the free labor.

[pinhigh27]

> @jdl said:

> > @pinhigh27 said:

> > Not sure why amateur can't get points. Some of these college kids play in multiple tournaments a year. If they have a few strong finishes, why shouldn't they be playoff eligible? Not sure why or how money is involved.

> >

> >

>

> If you want the rewards that come with being a professional golfer, then you need to ....... become a professional golfer. Gaining access to top tournaments due to accomplishments as an amateur and then try to claim pro benefits? Yeah, that's not going to fly.

 

meh not logically consistent with concept of pro status being fluid and people regaining am status.

 

I'm fine with the concept of " if you want pro benefits then turn pro" except that once pro you should have to stay pro. reinstatement should not be a thing IMO. it should be a calculated decision if its worth it to turn pro, lose the ability to play in am events, etc.

[mocokid]

anyone see the Como show last nite with GG, I was impressed by Wolff, seems to know his swing. Some footwork.