2019 Northern Trust @ Liberty National, NJ

[NoodleSalad]

> @"Darth Putter" said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > No tournament for the Euro Tour this week? How is that possible? It's August.

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> They didn't have one last week either.

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> I think this week used to be occupied by the Made in Denmark tournament that moved to May this year.

 

Yikes, the #2 tour in the world according to the Euros shutting down for 2 prime weeks in the summer. Did they run out of cash? Why isn't this a bigger story?

[tiderider]

> @NoodleSalad said:

> > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > No tournament for the Euro Tour this week? How is that possible? It's August.

> >

> > They didn't have one last week either.

> >

> > I think this week used to be occupied by the Made in Denmark tournament that moved to May this year.

>

> Yikes, the #2 tour in the world according to the Euros shutting down for 2 prime weeks in the summer. Did they run out of cash? Why isn't this a bigger story?

 

why is it a big deal? ... could be for a lot of reasons ... to give everyone a break ... to protect ryder cup competition some way ... because europe gives everyone a month of vacation ... they still have a lot of meat left on the schedule ... a 2-week break isn't that big of a deal, imo, esp with the american tour having its playoffs ...

[tiderider]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2019/08/07/brooks-koepka-rory-mcilroy-slow-play-unpunished-pga-tour/39925619/

 

 

[NoodleSalad]

> @tiderider said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > No tournament for the Euro Tour this week? How is that possible? It's August.

> > >

> > > They didn't have one last week either.

> > >

> > > I think this week used to be occupied by the Made in Denmark tournament that moved to May this year.

> >

> > Yikes, the #2 tour in the world according to the Euros shutting down for 2 prime weeks in the summer. Did they run out of cash? Why isn't this a bigger story?

>

> why is it a big deal? ... could be for a lot of reasons ... to give everyone a break ... to protect ryder cup competition some way ... because europe gives everyone a month of vacation ... they still have a lot of meat left on the schedule ... a 2-week break isn't that big of a deal, imo, esp with the american tour having its playoffs ...

 

That must be it, to give everyone a rest during 'oleedye time. It's NOT about the tour's cash position. Nope.

 

[aabcuue]

> @JD3 said:

> Seems like the shortknockers do well here. Iirc Webb Simpson won here, and before that am even shorter knocker (whose name I've forgotten). So I'm going with Zack Johnson.

 

Actually long and accurate do well here. Bomb and gouge doesn't work here. High, thick rough, mounding and tight holes don't lend to wildness of any length.

[aabcuue]

> @MattyO1984 said:

> Looked like Tiger was out for a practice round with DJ and Brooks...no chance that he does anything this week now, he will have done his back in trying to keep up with the young lads.

Looks like it already happened. TW cut back practice today as he was "too stiff".

Hopes he will loose up for thurs. Unfortunately, he has a 7:43a tee off 10th w/ JT Poston. Will see how Tw plays when reachs 12th.

10th is v hard starting hole esp. if wind is blowing. OB right for course boundary entire length. Wide creek crosses fairway short of driver. A lake on left short to 3/4 of hole makes for a tight fairway.

 

2nd shot is uphill to a diagonal lumpy green guarded by multiple bunkers short, left, right and back left. Hole gives up few birdies and par is a good score. Have seen way too many snowmen & higher scores.

[grm24]

> @JD3 said:

> Seems like the shortknockers do well here. Iirc Webb Simpson won here, and before that am even shorter knocker (whose name I've forgotten). So I'm going with Zack Johnson.

 

Previous two winners at Liberty National were Heath Slocum (2009) and Adam Scott (2013). Tiger finished runner up in both events. That won't happen this week.

[aabcuue]

> @MattyO1984 said:

> > @JD3 said:

> > > @MattyO1984 said:

> > > Looked like Tiger was out for a practice round with DJ and Brooks...no chance that he does anything this week now, he will have done his back in trying to keep up with the young lads.

> >

> > Yeah not getting my hopes up for him either. Other than US Open bethpage years ago he tends to flame out in NYC area; MC this year's PG bethpage, MC 06 open at winged foot, some others

> Stopped hitting tee shots today after the 7th. Sounds like the back is gone.

 

Actually he did a composite and skipped around.

Will find out how much time tommorrow TW spent in the gym and PT trailers in the pit getting stretched out.

They always work long hrs getting the players ready @start of week and everyday.

[aabcuue]

> @tiderider said:

> course isn't ranked all that high (tough being a course in new jersey rankings), but those views ...

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Scenery maybe nice but players hate the setup.

Top pic is the long 563yd par5 w/ narrow neck next to lake.

Middle is the 14th green w/ main view of lady liberty.

 

Bottom pic is 18th. Almost all hated the original setup, landing zone, lumpy shot setup and fairway narrowness.

 

After 2009 and 2013 most of 18th has been widened by 40% and flattened dramatically. However, a narrow part of green was extended right into the bay. Many players still give pc answers on course review and opinions.

[aabcuue]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> > @tiderider said:

> Not sure about the clubhouse. Looks more like what I'd expect from a clubhouse at one of the ET events in the Middle East.

 

Guess you don't think Fireman, owner and members got value for the $75+million spent bulding the clubhouse. Views inside are great. Front entrance is nice w/ waterfall w/ drive up circle of old style 1800s ny street blocks.

 

[aabcuue]

> @LICC said:

> > @JaNelson38 said:

> > For the people who say the FedExCup doesnt matter....just take a look at this field. Strength of field is the highest of any regular tour stop this year other than the Majors and the Players.

> > Without the $ being thrown at these guys for the FedExCup, you dont get a field like this in August in a regular PGA Tour event.

>

> Exactly. I don't understand how someone can get so excited to watch these same players play in May at Quail Hollow or Bedminster or Valhalla, but look at this tournament, or next week's at Medinah, and consider it meaningless and not bother and just say "the season is over".

Bedminster? Hasn't happened yet and won't until 2022 PGA.

All players play differently on any tournament sun back 9. Tension and stress increase but more in major and for the playoffs. Shots they do easily don't happen during the tournament, less so on Sunday and sunday back 9.

[aabcuue]

> @MooJersey said:

> Hmm thinking about going to this. Would probably just take the train into Jersey City.

There has always been a shuttle to the course from the train and light rail station.

 

[aabcuue]

> @legitimategolf said:

> > @MooJersey said:

> > Hmm thinking about going to this. Would probably just take the train into Jersey City.

>

> I'm also thinking about it. I can ride a bike and take a ferry from my home island directly to the 12th hole. No stupid parking, no shuttle busing. The trip sounds great. On the other hand who the **** wants to be surrounded by New Jersey area golf fans, in the armpit of summer.

 

Good luck getting on there unless your coming in via Port Liberte' entrance.

 

Don't you want to see our favorite GolfWRXer photog? Yes he's here saw him on Monday if you didn't see his pics yet.

 

Fyi, weather is only low 80s for rest of the week and w/e. Fwiw, will be on 12th th-sun until switching to other committee for post end and monday.

[aabcuue]

> @grm24 said:

> > @JD3 said:

> > Seems like the shortknockers do well here. Iirc Webb Simpson won here, and before that am even shorter knocker (whose name I've forgotten). So I'm going with Zack Johnson.

>

> Previous two winners at Liberty National were Heath Slocum (2009) and Adam Scott (2013). Tiger finished runner up in both events. That won't happen this week.

 

Especially since both times TW had a short putt to tie and make a playoffs. He missed 1st 2009 left by at least a ball and left 2nd 2013 short on 18th green.

[OldTomMorris]

> @aabcuue said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > @tiderider said:

> > Not sure about the clubhouse. Looks more like what I'd expect from a clubhouse at one of the ET events in the Middle East.

>

> Guess you don't think Fireman, owner and members got value for the $75+million spent bulding the clubhouse. Views inside are great. Front entrance is nice w/ waterfall w/ drive up circle of old style 1800s ny street blocks.

>

 

Waterfall, every clubhouse needs one.

[MattyO1984]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> > @aabcuue said:

> > > @OldTomMorris said:

> > > > @tiderider said:

> > > Not sure about the clubhouse. Looks more like what I'd expect from a clubhouse at one of the ET events in the Middle East.

> >

> > Guess you don't think Fireman, owner and members got value for the $75+million spent bulding the clubhouse. Views inside are great. Front entrance is nice w/ waterfall w/ drive up circle of old style 1800s ny street blocks.

> >

>

> Waterfall, every clubhouse needs one.

 

100%

 

Is your clubhouse even a clubhouse if it doesn't have a waterfall?!

[OldTomMorris]

Tiger hit the fairway with his opening tee ball. Currently no fans as the gates are shut till 10 local time due to recent rain.

[rukahs]

Tiger had a lot of speed on that tee shot.

[gioguy21]

oh tiger what is you doin....

[csperling3]

Those are some amazing views of the NYC skyline and the statue of liberty, incredible! Winner of this tourney should celebrate at Peter Lugers...

[JD3]

> @gioguy21 said:

> oh tiger what is you doin....

 

How did he double a 140 yard hole with no hazard or OB?

[gioguy21]

> @JD3 said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > oh tiger what is you doin....

>

> How did he double a 140 yard hole with no hazard or OB?

 

there is a hazard...behind the green. where he went. took a drop, didn't get it on the green, chipped it, putted it. boom, double.

[MountainGoat]

> @JD3 said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > oh tiger what is you doin....

>

> How did he double a 140 yard hole with no hazard or OB?

Same way he bogeyed 12 -- poor wedge control. Same distance, too.

 

 

[JD3]

> @MountainGoat said:

> > @JD3 said:

> > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > oh tiger what is you doin....

> >

> > How did he double a 140 yard hole with no hazard or OB?

> Same way he bogeyed 12 -- poor wedge control. Same distance, too.

>

>

 

Is the statue in play?

[Konklifer]

Tiger has post-Masters Danny Willett syndrome.

[MattyO1984]

> @Konklifer said:

> Tiger has post-Masters Danny Willett syndrome.

 

It’s looking more and more like Tiger did some kind of deal with the devil to win the one last Major and the flip side of the deal was that things were going to go back downhill (rapidly) again.

[pheenomz4774]

I don't like watching stiff, rusty Tiger. Makes me sad.

[MattyO1984]

> @pheenomz4774 said:

> I don't like watching stiff, rusty Tiger. Makes me sad.

 

Agreed!!

[OldTomMorris]

> @pheenomz4774 said:

> I don't like watching stiff, rusty Tiger. Makes me sad.

 

Playing like this it looks like he'll have another weekend off. Can't be much fun for Tiger himself.

[rukahs]

Yeah over the last few tournaments with Tiger in it has made me realize that there is golf after Tiger. Never thought i'd admit it after watching him for 20 years but he's not that fun to watch any more - he could just walk away from it all and I wouldn't even be mad because it's seems while he may still have the odd win (Masters was a huge exception on "the odd") it's clear he isn't beating Jack's record or getting better by playing so little in a season.

 

Rust is a b*tch and the new (older) Tiger doesn't play well unless he's well oiled and full of confidence and today shows he's got neither of those going for him.