G410 irons...took the leap

[Little Ned]

> @tgoodspe1991 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @Landy said:

> > > > @Nessism said:

> > > > > @Landy said:

> > > > > Hello has anyone compared the Srixon z585 to the G410?

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> > > > The srixon's are much smaller. Like the i210, not the G410.

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> > > So the G410 is more forgiving?

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> > I'm going to say Yes. I've never hit a iron as easy to hit as the G410's. Take that for what it's worth since I've never hit the Srixons.

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> Do you have experience with G410 vs. 919 Hot Metal and/or Hot Metal Pro?

 

Came from the G's (and G2 before that) and played the 410's for a couple rounds ... They are great clubs. But I went with the 919 HM and don't regret it one bit. They are incredible clubs - better sounding, better feeling, and classier when in comes to looks. The good news is that you can't go wrong either way. Both the 410 and HM are winners, IMO. In fact, I’d say the HM are the best clubs I’ve ever had.

[MtlJeff]

 

[braincramp52]

> @MtlJeff said:

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Nice! I would imagine you hit those a mile. :) Did you get the SW too?

[MtlJeff]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @MtlJeff said:

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> Nice! I would imagine you hit those a mile. :) Did you get the SW too?

 

I did! Got 4iron through sand wedge

 

Well, they ARE strong lofted :)

[braincramp52]

> @MtlJeff said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @MtlJeff said:

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> > Nice! I would imagine you hit those a mile. :) Did you get the SW too?

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> I did! Got 4iron through sand wedge

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> Well, they ARE strong lofted :)

 

How do you like it? I'm thinking I want to get the SW and LW this winter.

[MtlJeff]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @MtlJeff said:

> > > @lawsonman said:

> > > > @MtlJeff said:

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> > > Nice! I would imagine you hit those a mile. :) Did you get the SW too?

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> > I did! Got 4iron through sand wedge

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> > Well, they ARE strong lofted :)

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> How do you like it? I'm thinking I want to get the SW and LW this winter.

 

I only use the SW for full or 3/4 swings, not for chipping or bunker play. So it works for what I want. But for touch shots and bunkers I still use my PM grind 60.

 

I'm not sure I'd want to use the lob wedge for delicate stuff

[North Butte]

> @"Little Ned" said:

> > @tgoodspe1991 said:

> > > @lawsonman said:

> > > > @Landy said:

> > > > > @Nessism said:

> > > > > > @Landy said:

> > > > > > Hello has anyone compared the Srixon z585 to the G410?

> > > > >

> > > > > The srixon's are much smaller. Like the i210, not the G410.

> > > >

> > > > So the G410 is more forgiving?

> > >

> > > I'm going to say Yes. I've never hit a iron as easy to hit as the G410's. Take that for what it's worth since I've never hit the Srixons.

> >

> > Do you have experience with G410 vs. 919 Hot Metal and/or Hot Metal Pro?

>

> Came from the G's (and G2 before that) and played the 410's for a couple rounds ... They are great clubs. But I went with the 919 HM and don't regret it one bit. They are incredible clubs - better sounding, better feeling, and classier when in comes to looks. The good news is that you can't go wrong either way. Both the 410 and HM are winners, IMO. In fact, I’d say the HM are the best clubs I’ve ever had.

 

The 900/919 Hot Metal and the G400/G410 are my joint-favorites of current or recent clubs...

 

I think the Hot Metals do an awful good job of having hot faces, high MOI and some help getting the ball in the air while still have (by my duffer standards) a nice, compact shape when it comes to chipping, playing bump and runs or hitting out of the rough.

 

I think the Ping G-series options are even better at hot face/high MOI/help getting it up but aren't quite as compact and manuverable. So I'm always on the fence about do I want that like 2% of forgiveness or do I want the more compact shape. At the moment it's 900 HM for me but if I saw a killer deal on some G410, who knows?

[Nessism]

> @"North Butte" said:

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> The 900/919 Hot Metal and the G400/G410 are my joint-favorites of current or recent clubs...

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> I think the Hot Metals do an awful good job of having hot faces, high MOI and some help getting the ball in the air while still have (by my duffer standards) a nice, compact shape when it comes to chipping, playing bump and runs or hitting out of the rough.

>

> I think the Ping G-series options are even better at hot face/high MOI/help getting it up but aren't quite as compact and manuverable. So I'm always on the fence about do I want that like 2% of forgiveness or do I want the more compact shape. At the moment it's 900 HM for me but if I saw a killer deal on some G410, who knows?

 

I agree that the HM's are great. The (black hole like) pull of the G's is irresistible though. I was a pretty major club hoe prior to getting my (now departed) 900 HM's, and that feeling is continuing with the 410's now. I love to just bang down hard on the backside of the ball and watch it shoot out low and spinny at the flag. People that say modern GI clubs don't spin enough just don't know how to strike the ball properly with a descending strike!

[braincramp52]

> @Nessism said:

> > @"North Butte" said:

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> > The 900/919 Hot Metal and the G400/G410 are my joint-favorites of current or recent clubs...

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> > I think the Hot Metals do an awful good job of having hot faces, high MOI and some help getting the ball in the air while still have (by my duffer standards) a nice, compact shape when it comes to chipping, playing bump and runs or hitting out of the rough.

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> > I think the Ping G-series options are even better at hot face/high MOI/help getting it up but aren't quite as compact and manuverable. So I'm always on the fence about do I want that like 2% of forgiveness or do I want the more compact shape. At the moment it's 900 HM for me but if I saw a killer deal on some G410, who knows?

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> I agree that the HM's are great. The (black hole like) pull of the G's is irresistible though. I was a pretty major club hoe prior to getting my (now departed) 900 HM's, and that feeling is continuing with the 410's now. I love to just bang down hard on the backside of the ball and watch it shoot out low and spinny at the flag. People that say modern GI clubs don't spin enough just don't know how to strike the ball properly with a descending strike!

 

Well said .The G410's spin is as good as any iron. I wasn't one who let the surface marks of the hydropearl finish bother me but for those that were the new 2.0 finish is excellent. Not sure what Ping did but it worked.

[Steelhead]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @Nessism said:

> > > @"North Butte" said:

> > >

> > > The 900/919 Hot Metal and the G400/G410 are my joint-favorites of current or recent clubs...

> > >

> > > I think the Hot Metals do an awful good job of having hot faces, high MOI and some help getting the ball in the air while still have (by my duffer standards) a nice, compact shape when it comes to chipping, playing bump and runs or hitting out of the rough.

> > >

> > > I think the Ping G-series options are even better at hot face/high MOI/help getting it up but aren't quite as compact and manuverable. So I'm always on the fence about do I want that like 2% of forgiveness or do I want the more compact shape. At the moment it's 900 HM for me but if I saw a killer deal on some G410, who knows?

> >

> > I agree that the HM's are great. The (black hole like) pull of the G's is irresistible though. I was a pretty major club hoe prior to getting my (now departed) 900 HM's, and that feeling is continuing with the 410's now. I love to just bang down hard on the backside of the ball and watch it shoot out low and spinny at the flag. People that say modern GI clubs don't spin enough just don't know how to strike the ball properly with a descending strike!

>

> Well said .The G410's spin is as good as any iron. I wasn't one who let the surface marks of the hydropearl finish bother me but for those that were the new 2.0 finish is excellent. Not sure what Ping did but it worked.

 

Very well said...I have played such great golf with these this summer. It will be hard for me to justify putting another iron in the bag. I play the 4 thru S and every club is money. Drop and stop mid irons. Spin is great with the 9 thru S. Even the finish has help up significantly better than the G400s.

[HackerD]

Surprised to see so many going to SW and LW in the 410’s.

[jeffrey r]

> @"HackerD " said:

> Surprised to see so many going to SW and LW in the 410’s.

Lob wedge I could never imagine in a G series iron, but I have done the SW on a couple of G sets. So confidence-inspiring and forgiving on full shots, but it definitely does give up something on touch and finesse shots. And on longer bunker shots where I might pull my SW instead of LW (greenside bunkers), I hit some clunkers with the G series SW.

 

Bottom line for me, on anything other than full shots, I seem to prefer a more traditional wedge, and that is the direction I generally end up going. YMMV. I can see why some would prefer the comfort and forgiveness of a G series SW and LW.

 

[MtlJeff]

> @"HackerD " said:

> Surprised to see so many going to SW and LW in the 410’s.

 

If you use it for full swings only it's fine. I'm more accurate with it than I was with my blade sand wedge. Wouldn't recommend short chips with these beasts though

[MtlJeff]

I'm really nuking these things though. I mean they are strong lofted so it's not entirely surprising, however I'm hitting them further than I thought I would

 

I hit a 5 iron today over a green which must have carried about 210, and hit a 4 iron off a tee about 230

 

I was maybe maxing out my apex pro 4 iron at 210

 

It was the first time I'd played these irons on firm ground and a 30+ celcius day. When struck pure they explode. It's a different feel than puring a forged iron, but hitting a pure 6 is like watching a jet take off in Top Gun. I just want to take my shirt off and play beach volleyball afterwards

[braincramp52]

> @MtlJeff said:

> I'm really nuking these things though. I mean they are strong lofted so it's not entirely surprising, however I'm hitting them further than I thought I would

>

> I hit a 5 iron today over a green which must have carried about 210, and hit a 4 iron off a tee about 230

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> I was maybe maxing out my apex pro 4 iron at 210

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> It was the first time I'd played these irons on firm ground and a 30+ celcius day. When struck pure they explode. It's a different feel than puring a forged iron, but hitting a pure 6 is like watching a jet take off in Top Gun. I just want to take my shirt off and play beach volleyball afterwards

 

I know what you mean Jeff. Heck, I'm an old fart and even with my swing the ball just explodes off the face. And yet I haven't had one shot that has been what I would call a flyer and got me in trouble.

[bogeyk]

Are you guys seeing a big difference in distance in shots where you button it and others where you have a slight miss hit? That has always been a concern about faster face irons. I had the problem with JPX 900 Hot Metal, but not the G15.

[braincramp52]

> @bogeyk said:

> Are you guys seeing a big difference in distance in shots where you button it and others where you have a slight miss hit? That has always been a concern about faster face irons. I had the problem with JPX 900 Hot Metal, but not the G15.

 

Not really. I hit a ball way it on the toe one night in league and it landed in the middle of the green. If I flush one it's at the back. I'm guessing 5 yards difference.

[jeffrey r]

As I view this thread as the current de facto G series iron thread, let me just say that I am loving the G400 irons. I was bouncing around irons a bit this season, but really enjoyed the Mizuno 919 HM irons. 919 HM’s are terrific irons, and my co-favorite GI irons with the G400’s. But I guess their performance left me open to try the other irons, so they were not a slam dunk. Also played Ping ie1 irons, which are really great irons, but obviously a little more challenging than the G series.

 

Anyway, got a good deal on a lightly used set of G400’s, sent them into Ping to change to blue dot, and have been playing excellent golf with them. Having owned every G series iron of recent memory, the G400’s are the best for me no question. The AWT 2.0 shaft works great for me, seeing as I love Nippon shafts.

 

To the recent question about flyers, I have not seen that with the G400’s. They have been very consistent in distances. When I absolutely flushed the 919 HMs, they could have a tendency to fly long.

 

Bottom line, I would imagine the leap to the G410 would be another solid leap, so I’ll keep my eye out for a set of those. But big thumbs up to the G400. 919 HMs have slightly better feel, but the G400s are performing better for me. YMMV.

[MtlJeff]

You're not going to get flyers or hotspots or any of that other nonsense. You may hit some balls further than others due to different contact however, as is the case with every iron.

[JMH1220]

I demoed these at the range. They are very good irons as I expected. I sure don’t like the longer shafts on irons these days. I would go back to the old standard.

[wfrogge1]

> @bogeyk said:

> Are you guys seeing a big difference in distance in shots where you button it and others where you have a slight miss hit? That has always been a concern about faster face irons. I had the problem with JPX 900 Hot Metal, but not the G15.

 

I think most OEMs have figured this one out. Not going to completely thread hijack but I am a lower handicap "testing" a set of 919 HMs and notice zero "hot shot" flyers or drop in distance with slight miss hits regardless of high/low/toe/heel of the club. Have heard other lower handicap players in my area ordering G410s with stronger shafts that match their game and they are having similar results.

[huckitchuckit]

If they are as good as their woods they will not disappoint.

[DONNYWOOD]

G410's 5-UW arriving tomorrow after a custom fit with Project X LZ 6.0...this thread is pumping me up to get out there and play!

[leo the lion]

I am going to have to bite the bullet. I love my G irons but I cannot resist any longer. My G irons are going to be hard to knock out of the bag. Forgiveness and distance have been outstanding. The only thing which I found was the height. Man, I've hit the ball super high on occasions but in each case they have covered the distance needed. No moon balls that go nowhere. Just higher and I attribute that to going down in shaft weight to the AWT's. Anyway, Ness, Jeff and you guys have twisted my arm. I'm going to get a fitting at one of the local Ping Fitting Centers in September and going to grab me a set of 410 irons 5-AW plus a 410 4 hybrid with the Tour 85 or 90 shaft. My Ping G 3 Hybrid with Tour 90 shaft is going nowhere. That stays. Its the 'trusty steed in the bag.

[leo the lion]

Although there are several sets of Ping Eye BECU's that are calling my name..............

[SDGolfRookie]

Any updates from folks who went from **IBlades** to **G410**?

 

I know they are completely different irons...but I played poorly with my IBlades yesterday and would be interested in some more forgiveness, lol!

[XeroState]

While I've never hit the iBlades before I will say that the G410's are the most forgiving irons I've ever hit (gamers, friends clubs, demo's, etc). Now I definitely don't hit every club out there, so it's definitely taken with a grain of salt.

 

Compared to my old Taylormade RSi1's it's not even close.

I had 1 off the toe, 2 off the heel and thinned a couple. All went in the "direction" they were suppose to, which is impressive enough to me. But what really got me is how close in distance they all were. Even with those misses, they either still hit the green or were just off of it.

[leo the lion]

> @"leo the lion" said:

> I am going to have to bite the bullet. I love my G irons but I cannot resist any longer. My G irons are going to be hard to knock out of the bag. Forgiveness and distance have been outstanding. The only thing which I found was the height. Man, I've hit the ball super high on occasions but in each case they have covered the distance needed. No moon balls that go nowhere. Just higher and I attribute that to going down in shaft weight to the AWT's. Anyway, Ness, Jeff and you guys have twisted my arm. I'm going to get a fitting at one of the local Ping Fitting Centers in September and going to grab me a set of 410 irons 5-AW plus a 410 4 hybrid with the Tour 85 or 90 shaft. My Ping G 3 Hybrid with Tour 90 shaft is going nowhere. That stays. Its the 'trusty steed in the bag.

 

After watching tonight's TXG video on YouTube the Ping Glide 3.0 wedges will also be going in the bag.

[braincramp52]

> @"leo the lion" said:

> > @"leo the lion" said:

> > I am going to have to bite the bullet. I love my G irons but I cannot resist any longer. My G irons are going to be hard to knock out of the bag. Forgiveness and distance have been outstanding. The only thing which I found was the height. Man, I've hit the ball super high on occasions but in each case they have covered the distance needed. No moon balls that go nowhere. Just higher and I attribute that to going down in shaft weight to the AWT's. Anyway, Ness, Jeff and you guys have twisted my arm. I'm going to get a fitting at one of the local Ping Fitting Centers in September and going to grab me a set of 410 irons 5-AW plus a 410 4 hybrid with the Tour 85 or 90 shaft. My Ping G 3 Hybrid with Tour 90 shaft is going nowhere. That stays. Its the 'trusty steed in the bag.

>

> After watching tonight's TXG video on YouTube the Ping Glide 3.0 wedges will also be going in the bag.

 

Everyone should watch that video. The test with water blew those guys away. 6000 rpm's more spin than the Vokeys is crazy.

[braincramp52]

Little update. Had a -2 last night in league. Lowest 9 holes EVER! Bogie free with 7 pars and two birds. And to think I just about didn't buy these things.