Ping Hydropearl finish REALLY works

[Night train]

[Night train]

I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

[Phil Major]

I noticed that it spins and carry more than SM7 on dry & wet condition. I will test it to see if it will kick my Glide Forged 54* out of my bag since my wedge isn't sharp after 100+ hits but still love my 54*.

[Celebros]

> @"Night train" said:

> I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

 

You've piqued my interest, but I can't watch an 18+ minute video at work. Did they actually find 6000 more RPM simply due to the finish?

 

 

[Night train]

Vokey dropped over 5000 RPM of spin when the ball and club were misted with water............the Ping dropped about 300 RPM. It was a fascinating test!

[gioguy21]

> @Celebros said:

> > @"Night train" said:

> > I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

>

> You've piqued my interest, but I can't watch an 18+ minute video at work. Did they actually find 6000 more RPM simply due to the finish?

>

>

 

it's not that they got MORE RPMs...it's just that when they had both wedges dry, they were both around 11,500-12,000 RPMs...however when wet - the Ping only lost about 300 RPMs, while the vokey lost almost 5000-6000 RPMs

[Celebros]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @Celebros said:

> > > @"Night train" said:

> > > I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

> >

> > You've piqued my interest, but I can't watch an 18+ minute video at work. Did they actually find 6000 more RPM simply due to the finish?

> >

> >

>

> it's not that they got MORE RPMs...it's just that when they had both wedges dry, they were both around 11,500-12,000 RPMs...however when wet - the Ping only lost about 300 RPMs, while the vokey lost almost 5000-6000 RPMs

 

Interesting.

 

I play in the early morning with wet grass/ball a lot and have never experienced nearly half of my spin disappear on the course simply due to wet conditions. I play Cobra KING wedges (one reguar, one Pur model) for what its worth. Previously played Cleveland wedges and also never say any of this with them. Do people normally wet their wedges prior to swinging though? I usually take my practice swing, then wipe off the moisture/grass clippings prior to hitting.

[gioguy21]

> @Celebros said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @Celebros said:

> > > > @"Night train" said:

> > > > I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

> > >

> > > You've piqued my interest, but I can't watch an 18+ minute video at work. Did they actually find 6000 more RPM simply due to the finish?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > it's not that they got MORE RPMs...it's just that when they had both wedges dry, they were both around 11,500-12,000 RPMs...however when wet - the Ping only lost about 300 RPMs, while the vokey lost almost 5000-6000 RPMs

>

> Interesting.

>

> I play in the early morning with wet grass/ball a lot and have never experienced nearly half of my spin disappear on the course simply due to wet conditions. I play Cobra KING wedges (one reguar, one Pur model) for what its worth. Previously played Cleveland wedges and also never say any of this with them. Do people normally wet their wedges prior to swinging though? I usually take my practice swing, then wipe off the moisture/grass clippings prior to hitting.

 

well, the premise of the test (since it was off a mat) was to simulate that the ball and the clubface would have water on them through impact - so, why not a 100% test for environmental conditions -- it was quite good.

 

...i will be testing glide 3.0's shortly, but i wanted them prior to this video; now i want them more.

[Night train]

Well, this thread is probably dead now that it wasn't deemed worthy of being in the equipment forum

[JDMRN81]

Would have like to seen a new vokey vs new glide to help validate. While there was only a 700 rpm difference in dry conditions, I wonder if the wet conditions with Matt’s worn down/used vokey affected the results some vs new.

[Night train]

Matt did say earlier in the video that his Vokey was in near new condition

[JDMRN81]

> @"Night train" said:

> Matt did say earlier in the video that his Vokey was in near new condition

 

Ah, I didn’t catch that. Thanks.

 

[ian-500]

Great video. Need to test these wedges.

[milesnotsmiles]

wow, really surprising result. Very shocked that there could be that much difference

[8602081]

Another thing..

How often do you hit with a wet club?

I can understand wet ball, since we cannot clean it.. But Almost all the time, we would wipe down the irons. They should have just sprayed the ball and not the club..

 

[NC_Indy]

> @8602081 said:

> Another thing..

> How often do you hit with a wet club?

> I can understand wet ball, since we cannot clean it.. But Almost all the time, we would wipe down the irons. They should have just sprayed the ball and not the club..

>

 

It’s probably because I’m dumb but often. Dew is usually out until about the 13th hole when I go off in the mornings. Pre shot routine of waggling through the fluff of the grass before stepping up definitely gets the face wet. I just had literally no idea this could be that big of a difference.

[dlygrisse]

> @NC_Indy said:

> > @8602081 said:

> > Another thing..

> > How often do you hit with a wet club?

> > I can understand wet ball, since we cannot clean it.. But Almost all the time, we would wipe down the irons. They should have just sprayed the ball and not the club..

> >

>

> It’s probably because I’m dumb but often. Dew is usually out until about the 13th hole when I go off in the mornings. Pre shot routine of waggling through the fluff of the grass before stepping up definitely gets the face wet. I just had literally no idea this could be that big of a difference.

You collect water on the face during the downswing. Especially out of rough or if you sweep it. The ball will have water on it as well

 

[LCP]

> @Celebros said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @Celebros said:

> > > > @"Night train" said:

> > > > I don't see any way to dispute the results of this test..............the difference is astounding

> > >

> > > You've piqued my interest, but I can't watch an 18+ minute video at work. Did they actually find 6000 more RPM simply due to the finish?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > it's not that they got MORE RPMs...it's just that when they had both wedges dry, they were both around 11,500-12,000 RPMs...however when wet - the Ping only lost about 300 RPMs, while the vokey lost almost 5000-6000 RPMs

>

> Interesting.

>

> I play in the early morning with wet grass/ball a lot and have never experienced nearly half of my spin disappear on the course simply due to wet conditions. I play Cobra KING wedges (one reguar, one Pur model) for what its worth. Previously played Cleveland wedges and also never say any of this with them. Do people normally wet their wedges prior to swinging though? I usually take my practice swing, then wipe off the moisture/grass clippings prior to hitting.

 

I played a lot early when it's constantly wet with fast greens and have noticed my spin disappearing, but then I started playing the newer Ping wedges with that coating at the same time playing older ones without it and the spin difference was night and day -- none vs. some on those short greenside chips where you're praying to save par and will accept making bogey and trying hard to avoid a double bogey.

[Red4282]

I love txg but this one made me laugh a bit. While the spin differential was impressive, i doubt you will ever see that amount of water on your face unless its pouring raining. Dew? Ok, wipe your face before you hit. Water transfer from grass to face? Possibly, but not THAT much. Unless your in the rough. In that case you will spin because you are in the rough anyways. Even more interesting is even though the discrepancy was quite large on spin, notice the vokeys still ended up on the green and were actually quite good shots...what was lost in spin, trajectory made up for it, and was almost a wash. Im not dis crediting pings tech on these wedges, it was pretty cool to see. Im just questioning the functionality of it and how much it actually matters.

[Red4282]

> @Red4282 said:

> I love txg but this one made me laugh a bit. While the spin differential was impressive, i doubt you will ever see that amount of water on your face unless its pouring raining. Dew? Ok, wipe your face before you hit. Water transfer from grass to face? Possibly, but not THAT much. Unless your in the rough. In that case you will spin because you are in the rough anyways. Even more interesting is even though the discrepancy was quite large on spin, notice the vokeys still ended up on the green and were actually quite good shots...what was lost in spin, trajectory made up for it, and was almost a wash. Im not dis crediting pings tech on these wedges, it was pretty cool to see. Im just questioning the functionality of it and how much it actually matters.

 

Oh yea not to mention has anyone tested how long this finish will last? Does it wear off? To me its like the same thing rain x does for your windshields. Its great but doesnt last forever

 

[Big A HG]

I'm very intrigued! My first question is, how long does this finish last? I know Pings are durable and all that jazz, but what makes it what it is? Is it a coating of sorts on the surface of the casting, or is it basically ingrained into it, thereby not ever really wearing off?

[leo the lion]

The boys at TXG are top notch. I'm going in for Ping G410 fitting soon and I'll add two or three Glide 3.0 wedges into the mix.

[howellhandmade]

> @"Night train" said:

> Well, this thread is probably dead now that it wasn't deemed worthy of being in the equipment forum

I found it, for one, but I agree that it is of general interest to club users rather than just to club builders. I would vote for putting it back.

 

[Night train]

Hydropearl is not an applied coating.............but the type of chrome plating used on the club...............I think :)

 

[pollock21]

> @Red4282 said:

> I love txg but this one made me laugh a bit. While the spin differential was impressive, i doubt you will ever see that amount of water on your face unless its pouring raining. Dew? Ok, wipe your face before you hit. Water transfer from grass to face? Possibly, but not THAT much. Unless your in the rough. In that case you will spin because you are in the rough anyways. Even more interesting is even though the discrepancy was quite large on spin, notice the vokeys still ended up on the green and were actually quite good shots...what was lost in spin, trajectory made up for it, and was almost a wash. Im not dis crediting pings tech on these wedges, it was pretty cool to see. Im just questioning the functionality of it and how much it actually matters.

 

I think you’re missing the point. They were testing whether or not it worked. Clearly the finish had a huge impact on the results. As far as practical, an outdoor test in Dewey conditions would be a better guide as to how much spin you would lose with the non-ping. As for dew, you ca wipe the face all you want, but when you hit the ball, there will be water making its way between the face and the ball. How much, and how much will it impact spin, who knows exactly how much?

 

But that’s the catch here. We can see the Ping basically eliminates this variable. You can take the Ping between worst case wet and perfect dry conditions and you can trust that it’s gonna spin pretty consistent. In this case with the Vokey, it might spin 11,500 or 6,500 or anywhere in between. So you want to hit that 75 yard shot to a front pin over a bunker on a Dewey morning with a club that you know will spin, or a club that you know will spin somewhere between 6500 and 11500 depending on the amount of moisture you pick up on the club face at impact?

 

Removing variables is a good thing, and this test was extremely relevant.

 

[SecondandGoal]

Just picked up new 54* and 58*. Will be testing them out on the course tonight. Replacing Cleveland RTX-3's that have a TON of rounds on them, expecting to see a dramatic increase in spin.

[cristphoto]

Besides the hydro pearl finish Ping also puts three extra grooves on their wedges which also gives extra spin.

[North Butte]

Remember Bubba Watson? "Water on the FACE. Water on the face, man".

 

Guess they didn't make Hydropearl back then. Would have saved his caddy a bit of abuse.

[budcangolf]

> @"North Butte" said:

> Remember Bubba Watson? "Water on the FACE. Water on the face, man".

>

> Guess they didn't make Hydropearl back then. Would have saved his caddy a bit of abuse.

 

What are they going to do about the MUDBALL, MUDBALLLLL(s)? Lol

 

[Red4282]

> @pollock21 said:

> > @Red4282 said:

> > I love txg but this one made me laugh a bit. While the spin differential was impressive, i doubt you will ever see that amount of water on your face unless its pouring raining. Dew? Ok, wipe your face before you hit. Water transfer from grass to face? Possibly, but not THAT much. Unless your in the rough. In that case you will spin because you are in the rough anyways. Even more interesting is even though the discrepancy was quite large on spin, notice the vokeys still ended up on the green and were actually quite good shots...what was lost in spin, trajectory made up for it, and was almost a wash. Im not dis crediting pings tech on these wedges, it was pretty cool to see. Im just questioning the functionality of it and how much it actually matters.

>

> I think you’re missing the point. They were testing whether or not it worked. Clearly the finish had a huge impact on the results. As far as practical, an outdoor test in Dewey conditions would be a better guide as to how much spin you would lose with the non-ping. As for dew, you ca wipe the face all you want, but when you hit the ball, there will be water making its way between the face and the ball. How much, and how much will it impact spin, who knows exactly how much?

>

> But that’s the catch here. We can see the Ping basically eliminates this variable. You can take the Ping between worst case wet and perfect dry conditions and you can trust that it’s gonna spin pretty consistent. In this case with the Vokey, it might spin 11,500 or 6,500 or anywhere in between. So you want to hit that 75 yard shot to a front pin over a bunker on a Dewey morning with a club that you know will spin, or a club that you know will spin somewhere between 6500 and 11500 depending on the amount of moisture you pick up on the club face at impact?

>

> Removing variables is a good thing, and this test was extremely relevant.

>

Although while removing one variable they added another: durability of the finish. After 500 strikes how much does the finish still work? Now we are in another guessing game of uknown. With a standard club we know it will take off spin every time at least. Lol