Epic flash sub zero fairway = best fairway of 2019????

[Mike_C]

> @mcc0819 said:

> Guys, I may have found a 3 wood that might actually kick out the epic flash sz out of the bag. Since that “other website” posted their annual best fairway list, one thing that stuck out to me was that they had the Srixon zf85 as the most distance fairway wood. So I went out and hit a demo. Holy sh**. This thing flies. I normally carry 245-250 with epic flash sz. With the zf85, I averaged 256 carry. Only concern was I was over drawing it and sits slightly closer at address. I figured it may be because of the stock HZRDUS red shaft that just wasn’t stable enough for my swing. Being a club hoe, I bought it out of curiosity and put an AD-TP 8x in it. The shaft turned this thing into a mini rocket launcher. Flight has straightened out with an average carry of 261 and dispersion has tightened up compared to the epic flash. Now I may be in the honeymoon phase but I will continue to test it out for the next month and see how it compares to the epic flash sz but so far so good.

 

I had the Srixon Z F85 with a HZDRUS yellow. It is long. But I fought hooking it. I finally looked for something else. And switched to a 15 degree flash subzero. The Srixon specs are 4 degrees more upright vs the Callaway, l think this is the reason for the lefts for me. But I did like the look and feel of the F85, l actually recommended it to people who don't hook the ball.

[taoslcl]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @taoslcl said:

> > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

>

> i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

 

Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

[gioguy21]

> @taoslcl said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @taoslcl said:

> > > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

> >

> > i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

>

> Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

 

anytime! i love my 5w going into long par 5s (255-265 carry and need it to stop quickly; high and soft)

[ddetts]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @taoslcl said:

> > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

> > >

> > > i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

> >

> > Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

>

> anytime! i love my 5w going into long par 5s (255-265 carry and need it to stop quickly; high and soft)

 

Which would offer the best of both worlds, off the tee and off the deck? I currently have 3w -> TM UDI 2i as my progression. I really like the 2i and mostly use it off the tee but am thinking of going back to a 5w after a lot of years not having one. Back when I had a Nike Ignite 5w I hit it around 245-250, but I'm thinking I am a little longer than that now, so hopefully would be around that 250 club for me and make going for a few more par 5s reasonable.

[gioguy21]

> @ddetts said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

> > > >

> > > > i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

> > >

> > > Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

> >

> > anytime! i love my 5w going into long par 5s (255-265 carry and need it to stop quickly; high and soft)

>

> Which would offer the best of both worlds, off the tee and off the deck? I currently have 3w -> TM UDI 2i as my progression. I really like the 2i and mostly use it off the tee but am thinking of going back to a 5w after a lot of years not having one. Back when I had a Nike Ignite 5w I hit it around 245-250, but I'm thinking I am a little longer than that now, so hopefully would be around that 250 club for me and make going for a few more par 5s reasonable.

 

you could get the SZ with a mid to high launch shaft - for instance, an SZ with a graphite design IZ would be a great club.

[ddetts]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @ddetts said:

> > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > > > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

> > > > >

> > > > > i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

> > >

> > > anytime! i love my 5w going into long par 5s (255-265 carry and need it to stop quickly; high and soft)

> >

> > Which would offer the best of both worlds, off the tee and off the deck? I currently have 3w -> TM UDI 2i as my progression. I really like the 2i and mostly use it off the tee but am thinking of going back to a 5w after a lot of years not having one. Back when I had a Nike Ignite 5w I hit it around 245-250, but I'm thinking I am a little longer than that now, so hopefully would be around that 250 club for me and make going for a few more par 5s reasonable.

>

> you could get the SZ with a mid to high launch shaft - for instance, an SZ with a graphite design IZ would be a great club.

 

My 3w is the more recent TM M2 Tour 15*, with the Kuro Kage TiNi 70g shaft. I like the launch and spin I get with that. I see on preowned right now there's one with HZRDUS yellow 6.5 63g, othewise just the HZRDUS Smoke 70/80 versions in 6.5 or Tensei AV Blue 75.

[gioguy21]

> @ddetts said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @ddetts said:

> > > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > > > @gioguy21 said:

> > > > > > > @taoslcl said:

> > > > > > > Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i bought them thinking of them this way (i have both btw): if you use it off a tee, go SZ, if you hit it off grass, go flash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks! I'm going to go 5 wood in regular. Sounds like their playability guarantee is legit so if i don't get along with it i can exchange pretty easy.

> > > >

> > > > anytime! i love my 5w going into long par 5s (255-265 carry and need it to stop quickly; high and soft)

> > >

> > > Which would offer the best of both worlds, off the tee and off the deck? I currently have 3w -> TM UDI 2i as my progression. I really like the 2i and mostly use it off the tee but am thinking of going back to a 5w after a lot of years not having one. Back when I had a Nike Ignite 5w I hit it around 245-250, but I'm thinking I am a little longer than that now, so hopefully would be around that 250 club for me and make going for a few more par 5s reasonable.

> >

> > you could get the SZ with a mid to high launch shaft - for instance, an SZ with a graphite design IZ would be a great club.

>

> My 3w is the more recent TM M2 Tour 15*, with the Kuro Kage TiNi 70g shaft. I like the launch and spin I get with that. I see on preowned right now there's one with HZRDUS yellow 6.5 63g, othewise just the HZRDUS Smoke 70/80 versions in 6.5 or Tensei AV Blue 75.

 

you could go with the av blue if those were the choices

[KevCannon]

> @taoslcl said:

> Looking at picking one of these up from Callaway pre owned this weekend during their sale. Anyone with around 100-105 swing speed try both the regular and Sub zero and have thoughts. Don't think I have anywhere to hit them. Would normally go with the regular epic flash but this thread and that others sites #1 ranking make me want to try the SZ.

 

I am around 110 mph swing speed with driver and have the flash sub zero 15 degree w/ a GD tour AD TP 7x shaft, and absolutely love this club. If you are worried about launch from the deck, don’t be. Obviously I haven’t seem you swing and don’t know your game, but for me this club is very versatile for me. I’m able to get plenty of height from fairway or rough if i need to go at a green on par 5. Prior to getting this I wouldn’t exactly have considered hitting 3 wood off the deck a strong suit in my game but that has changed. Just my experience and hope it helps.

[taoslcl]

If you were trying to make a 4 wood out of these what direction would you go...buy a 5 and adjust stronger or a 3 and adjust weaker (did I get that right)? I'm thinking I want something in the 16-17 deg range. I have a 19 deg hybrid currently but don't use it much as it's been a hook machine this year. This will be my only fairway so want to hit off deck and off tee. I would say I'm looking for consistency over distance.

[mogc60]

The SZ launches it off the ground. No issues at all from the turf. One of the easiest I’ve ever had yet the ball flight is very penetrating.

[JDCON]

I'm going to buy a new 3-wood for my dad. His SS is starting to slow down and he needs regular flex. Would the SZ or regular Epic Flash be better for a senior in his situation? He needs a little help getting it into the air.

[gioguy21]

> @JDCON said:

> I'm going to buy a new 3-wood for my dad. His SS is starting to slow down and he needs regular flex. Would the SZ or regular Epic Flash be better for a senior in his situation? He needs a little help getting it into the air.

 

go with the regular version

[Heathbar]

Flash sub zero over the standard ??

[pdaero]

If any of you are looking for heavier-weighted shafts that still have launch without overspinning, don't overlook the MJ7 and MJ8 from Tour AD - the Tour AD MJ8X is a spectacular fairway shaft that can roll out off the tee and land soft off the turf. Really a unicorn shaft.

[ddetts]

Anybody know when the Callaway Pre-owned Anniversary sale ends?

[taoslcl]

> @ddetts said:

> Anybody know when the Callaway Pre-owned Anniversary sale ends?

 

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[RH82]

Anyone increase the loft by 1* or 2* in a 15* to make it a 4 wood? Not sure if this would close the face with the bottom cog in standard.

[MattGolfs]

> @RH82 said:

> Anyone increase the loft by 1* or 2* in a 15* to make it a 4 wood? Not sure if this would close the face with the bottom cog in standard.

 

I play my EFSZ 3 wood at +2, sits square to my eye. Launch is noticeably higher as well which I needed. Also play with the heavier weight back.

[wdaig1]

Anyone buy the Epic Flash 3 Hybrid? I was curious if that plays as well as the Driver and 3 wood.

[Radeon962]

Love the Epic Flash driver but did not get along with the Flash or Flash SZ Fairway Woods. Went back to the XR16 Pro as it feels so much better and as forgiving as the EF just not as long.

[Mike_C]

> @wdaig1 said:

> Anyone buy the Epic Flash 3 Hybrid? I was curious if that plays as well as the Driver and 3 wood.

 

I would be interested also. I picked up a demo in the hitting bay when I was looking at hybrids and was killing it compared to some others, and it felt and looked great. But I was somewhat taken aback that it retails for $300. I tried to look up some reviews and didn't find much.

[Crankenstein]

The YouTube testers LOVE that hybrid ❤️

[zed]

> @RH82 said:

> Anyone increase the loft by 1* or 2* in a 15* to make it a 4 wood? Not sure if this would close the face with the bottom cog in standard.

 

Yes, I did, no change directionally or visually, but certainly did impact launch. Adjustment for loft seems really well engineered. I have the standard flash 3 wood - such a good club from tee or grass, really long.

 

 

[Green Lit]

> @Mike_C said:

> > @wdaig1 said:

> > Anyone buy the Epic Flash 3 Hybrid? I was curious if that plays as well as the Driver and 3 wood.

>

> I would be interested also. I picked up a demo in the hitting bay when I was looking at hybrids and was killing it compared to some others, and it felt and looked great. But I was somewhat taken aback that it retails for $300. I tried to look up some reviews and didn't find much.

 

Haven't bought it (prefer ts3 hybrid) but I've hit it a decent amount. It's easily the longest hybrid I've hit. It's a good 8-10 yards longer than any other hybrid on offer. I like the look of it, but it's bigger than what I prefer in a hybrid.

[cmatthews77]

How much improvement or comparison between the Epic Flash and Sub vs the original Epic fairway line?

[Luke7]

How is it that in a world where they have maxed out ball speeds from the face, that one club is consistently 10 yards longer than all the rest?

[Crankenstein]

Jail break.

[BogeyWorkman]

I know I am late to this but how did you do with the Sub Zero 3w? I am pretty much in the same profile. I have a rogue 5w so I am just looking for a driver replacement when needed.

[BogeyWorkman]

Did you test the sub zero?

[ewe8523]

I’ve been considering one of these with the CPO sale that is going on now. Anyone compare with the regular F9 fairways?