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What IS the Smallest Blade iron ever made?


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I have had Miura BB, Muirifield 20th, Cobra King MB, Hogan Apex PC and many other “Small Blades”.

 

But does anyone know conclusively what the smallest iron head made is?

 

If I remember correctly, the Miura was really close in length size to the 20th but had a taller profile.

 

The Cobra MB’s were slightly larger than the BB and the Hogan PC’s were just a little bigger than the 20th’s.

 

I wish I had a micrometer to measure the heads I have.

 

Anyone know for sure who makes the smallest iron head?

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70's era Dunlop/Maxfli Australian blades were small heads. So were any of the 60's and 70's era Wilson Staff blades.

For comparison, any of the blades made during the past 20 years, from companies such as Mizuno, have head sizes about 15% to 20% larger than older blade irons.

Cleveland TL310 10.5* driver

Cleveland HB Launcher 15* 3-wood

Srixon H65  19* 3 hybrid and 22* 4 hybrid

Mizuno MP63 5 thru 9-iron

Cleveland RTX 48-52-56-64 wedges

Scotty Cameron Classic III putter

 

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Went digging through the garage found Arnold Palmer 3 iron from the late 70's , smaller than my cobra's.

Taylormade Sim2 9*   Lagp axs blue 6x

Taylormade 300 mini 13.5  lagp axs blue 7x

Callaway UW 17  ventus black 7x  

Taylormade sim2 rescue 22  ventus blue 8x

Srixon 945's 4-pw KBS $ Taper HT 125

Cbx2 kbs 610  50/56  Cbx zipcore 60

Scotty special select squareback accra fx 3.0  

 

 

 

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MacGregor Muirfields are pretty small. Ram TW Custom Grind irons are also rather small, with their square toe grind. The Palmer Standards might merit some attention, but such as I remember, they aren't quite as small as the Muirfields or Rams I mentioned.

 

No experience with the 40s and 50s MacGregors, Wilson Staffs, Spaldings, etc, some of them might be fairly tiny.

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1983 Cleveland 588 blades. Miniscule and the smallest I ever saw and played.

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Club Champion Custom Callaway AI Smoke 11*, Aldila Ascent 40 Gram, A Flex

Srixon F45 4-wood, 17*, Kuro Kage 606 S
TXG Custom  SIM Max 7-wood, Accra FX 140 2.0 M2

TXG Custom Cobra Tech 5-hybrid, KBS TGI 75 R
TXG Custom PXG 0211 6-pw, 1* upright, Recoil E460 R
PXG 0211 GW, 50*, (new version), UST Recoil Dart R
TXG Custom Cleveland CBX 54*, Tour Issue DG Spinner 115 

Ping Glide 4.0 58*, Nippon 115 
TXG Custom Cobra Nova, KBS CT Tour Shaft

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Ping Blueprint is smallsy, guy brought a demo head out the other day, to randomly show me, and I immediately looked at it and said, "Way, waaaayyyy too small for my skill level, I'm more of a i500 type."

 

His look at me after this exchange said it all...

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TM 2016 M2 12*(-2 setting) - OG Grafalloy Blue X, 43.5"

TEE XCG7 16.5* 4w, OG Grafalloy Blue S, 41.75"

Wilson D9 18* 4i, KBS Max-R, 39.5”

Cobra King OS 4-G, TT XP95 R300, -.5
Mack Daddy CB 56.14(2* weak)  60.12(3*  weak)

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Older you go the smaller they get. A lot of good mentions above, muirfields, rams, Australian blades

The Cleveland 588 was very boxy and small. Palmers were a lower profile blade but overall pretty tiny. Dug like crazy

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Honma TR21 15* VIZARD FP7 Stiff

Honma TR21 HY 18* VIZARD UT 7

Honma TR21 HY 21* VIZARD UT 8

Honma TR21X 5-11 VIZARD IBWF 100

HighToe MG3 54* VIZARD IB 120

HighToe MG3 58*/13 VIZARD IB 120

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IF you're looking for some sort of database of older iron head sizes, I don't think you're going to find it. I don't think any manufacturer really advertises/lists dimensions for their clubs, so it would be nigh on impossible to even start to put together such a thing.

M5 w/Rogue
Cobra F6 3/4 wood w/Kuro Kage
RSI 2 driving iron w/recoil
PSI Tour 4-pw w/S300
MD3 50/54/58
Lajosi DD201 w/full face Damascus insert

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Smallest I used were circa 86' Wilson staff fluid feel. Most recent was cobra S3 pro, circa 06'

TM Stealth Plus 10.5 Ventus TR Velocore Red 5

Ping G425 Max 5 FW 17.5 Ventus Velocore Red 7

Srixon ZX MKII 3UT MMT 95

Callaway X Forged CB 21' 4-PW Modus 120

Yururi Tataki 52.5, 56.5 and 60.5 DG S200
Ping Anser 2
MCC +4 Grips
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> @"A.Princey" said:

> Ping Blueprint is smallsy, guy brought a demo head out the other day, to randomly show me, and I immediately looked at it and said, "Way, waaaayyyy too small for my skill level, I'm more of a i500 type."

>

> His look at me after this exchange said it all...

 

I agree, the Blueprints are the smallest out of the modern main stream brands, however, they are very forgiving for their small size. You would be surprised.

 

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> @justasgood said:

> is there a resource that shows actual head size or face surface measures?

>

>

No.

But without a doubt,the older vintage the blade, the smaller the size.

 

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Cleveland TL310 10.5* driver

Cleveland HB Launcher 15* 3-wood

Srixon H65  19* 3 hybrid and 22* 4 hybrid

Mizuno MP63 5 thru 9-iron

Cleveland RTX 48-52-56-64 wedges

Scotty Cameron Classic III putter

 

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I had a set of Onyx Square Two irons that were miniscule -- blade length was barely bigger than the ball. Couldn't hit them worth a lick.

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TourSwing Octane 10.5*  TourSwing Vengeance  44.5"
Tour Edge Exotics E8 16.5* 4 wood
Tour Edge Exotics E8 Beta 19* 3 hybrid 
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Here are a few small blades I have played and owned.

Miura Baby Blade

Wilson Staff FG59

Ping Blueprint (only tested)

 

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Driver = Callaway Smoke-Ai Max-D 

3 wood = Callaway Smoke-Ai Max HL

3 Hybrid = Taylormade Stealth Pro
Irons = 4-PW Miura KM 700
Gap Wedge = Miura HB 50*

Sand Wedge = Taylormade MG3 TW 56*

Putter = LAB DF3

Ball = TP5x v’s Chrome Tour 

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> @craz-e said:

> Here are a few small blades I have played and owned.

> Miura Baby Blade

> Wilson Staff FG59

> Ping Blueprint (only tested)

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That’s what I’m talking about. In the top picture, the WS looks 1/2 the size of the BB, looking at the soles, the WS looks much longer.

 

Can you measure the top line on both? Like from the hosel curve to the end of the toe? And measure the face height in the center from sole to top line?

 

 

I’m going to get some calipers to measure the blades I have. Using the 5 iron to measure.

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When I first started playing I bought some used Wilson FG17 muscle backs. I never realized how small they were until I looked at some modern Mizuno muscle backs. The Wilsons made the Mizunos look like shovels. Every now and then, I play a round with the FG17s. Makes me appreciate the SGI shovels I currently play.

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On the Aussie blades, many of them were actually quite long heel to toe. I'd actually look to other Maxfli offerings such as the Dunlop Maxfli Pro Special as being smaller.

 

The smallest I've seen in person were some one off custom Macs that were definitely smaller than the Muirfields and smaller than BB for sure. There's a small pic [here](https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/comment/3683655#Comment_3683655). If I still have any better pics, I'll post them. The Macs were very compact with a substantial (and straight) muscle. I guess the size of the muscle allowed the really small faces. When I owned them, I also compared them to small Wilsons, Spaldings and other classic irons from the 60s/70s/80s. The Macs were in a league of their own.

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86-90 titleist bullet back tour models are tiny. Modern versions are the miura BB and the ping blueprint. Both being very much equal in my opinion. With the ping being my personal favorite for feel and sole design. And I’ve played both extensively.

Callaway epic max LS 9* GD-M9003 7x 

TM Sim2 max tour  16* GD  ADHD 8x 

srixon zx 19* elements 9F5T 

Cobra king SZ 25.5* KBS TD cat 5 70 

TM p7mc 5-pw Mmt125tx 

Mizuno T22 raw 52-56-60 s400

LAB Mezz Max armlock 

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...and the early 80's tour blades. I remember some of the (way) older MacGregors being pretty short too, MT's, etc.

Taylormade 16' M2 9.5º (Tensei 60 Orange R)

Taylormade M1 HL3 17º (Kuro Kage 70 S)

Taylormade 11' Rescue 21º and 23.5º (Aldila RIP TP S)

Srixon 745 5-PW (TT DG Lite S300)

Titleist Vokey SM4 50.08F, 54.14F, 58.09S

Titleist SC PP Del Mar 3.5, Odyssey WH Pro 7, Cleveland HB Soft 11.

Royal M Taper 360's

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I have some 1980 Wilson Staffs. I'll try to take some pics next to my 745s. Should be interesting, especially in the mid/long irons.

Taylormade 16' M2 9.5º (Tensei 60 Orange R)

Taylormade M1 HL3 17º (Kuro Kage 70 S)

Taylormade 11' Rescue 21º and 23.5º (Aldila RIP TP S)

Srixon 745 5-PW (TT DG Lite S300)

Titleist Vokey SM4 50.08F, 54.14F, 58.09S

Titleist SC PP Del Mar 3.5, Odyssey WH Pro 7, Cleveland HB Soft 11.

Royal M Taper 360's

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