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> @2moreTerps said:

> can you list the really good putters you know who change their putter every month? i'm not being sarcastic. it's an actual question

>

> last week i was talking to a guy who i consider to be a very good putter. he's a better putter than i am. this guy changes clubs a lot and likes new stuff. he has used the same putter for more than 10 years.

 

Stop making sense!

It's got to be the putter, It's got to be the putter, It's got to be the putter, It's got to be the putter, It's got to be the putter........

 

I've used the same putter for almost a month (I haven't played in 3 weeks)

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I assume you have been using the same putter for a while. Serious question - Do you ever feel the need to look at something else. Every once in a while a putter will just not look right, and I want a different look or feel. It might only be a few rounds or it might be a couple of months, and I'll go back to my old one.

I love trying different styles/weights/grips etc. I mostly use the same 3 or 4 putters from the past 6-7 years. I'll throw a new one in the bag, but it usually doesn't last long

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> @2moreTerps said:

> can you list the really good putters you know who change their putter every month? i'm not being sarcastic. it's an actual question

>

> last week i was talking to a guy who i consider to be a very good putter. he's a better putter than i am. this guy changes clubs a lot and likes new stuff. he has used the same putter for more than> @2moreTerps said:

> > @FAbb said:

> > I'm not advocating that changing a lot is good lol. There's really no question I'd be better off sticking to a single putter indefinitely. Will I? Very unlikely.

> why? you really care about golf. why would you knowingly do something that is detrimental to your game

>

 

I feel the same about not being fitted

 

I bought an expensive putter to match my specs because I don’t change. Only club we use every hole.

 

But I do have another one coming.. it was a gift. I’ll mess around with it—- caveat is — it matches my specs.

 

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no. i really don't feel a need or desire to look at something else. the scottie that JT uses is beautiful. when i go to second swing i hit some putts with it. but i've never given any consideration to purchasing one.

 

i used a two ball putter for years. then when my back was giving me trouble i switched to a counter balanced putter and held it at the end. that's far from ideal. i used two putters in that stage. when i decided to go back to a regular length putter a couple years ago i got another two ball putter. that's the 2moreTerps putter change history from something like 2006 until now

 

i'm also naturally change averse.

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> @2moreTerps said:

> > @FAbb said:

> > I'm not advocating that changing a lot is good lol. There's really no question I'd be better off sticking to a single putter indefinitely. Will I? Very unlikely.

> why? you really care about golf. why would you knowingly do something that is detrimental to your game

>

 

Why do people that really care about their lives do things that are inherently risky? I'd say it's because they derive some joy from those things.

 

I'm not a golf robot, programmed to do nothing but optimize. I like messing around with stuff.

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Hey guys - I'm gonna settle this once and for all. I've changed putters three times this summer and shot a 77!! at UMD on Sat.

Sorry, but I am still basking in that round a bit.

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> @FAbb said:

> > @2moreTerps said:

> > > @FAbb said:

> > > I'm not advocating that changing a lot is good lol. There's really no question I'd be better off sticking to a single putter indefinitely. Will I? Very unlikely.

> > why? you really care about golf. why would you knowingly do something that is detrimental to your game

> >

>

> Why do people that really care about their lives do things that are inherently risky? I'd say it's because they derive some joy from those things.

>

> I'm not a golf robot, programmed to do nothing but optimize. I like messing around with stuff.

 

The same could be said about how people choose to play golf (their way)

 

Yet questions, statements, etc get passed onto them — warranted or not.

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It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

 

AND, gripes about his putting.

 

And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

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That's fair.

 

I'm open to changing it. I'm sorta working on changing it. The Spider X isn't coming out of the bag, unless I find something that's definitively better. I'm spending 95% of my time on the course, and in practice with my current putter. I can't imagine that 5% I'm messing with something else, or changing the grip makes any difference in my putting results on the whole. I don't feel like cutting out that 5% will change anything. Maybe I'm wrong.

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> @2moreTerps said:

> no. i really don't feel a need or desire to look at something else. the scottie that JT uses is beautiful. when i go to second swing i hit some putts with it. but i've never given any consideration to purchasing one.

>

> i used a two ball putter for years. then when my back was giving me trouble i switched to a counter balanced putter and held it at the end. that's far from ideal. i used two putters in that stage. when i decided to go back to a regular length putter a couple years ago i got another two ball putter. that's the 2moreTerps putter change history from something like 2006 until now

>

> i'm also naturally change averse.

 

That is impressive. Unfortunately, my attention span isn't that long. I have had long periods with the same putter, and several periods of putter schizophrenia and get a little carried away with changing. Then I will have another putter purge and get back down to 3-4. I like the looks of a blade, so I keep going back to that style. That said, I also have a mallet that I will switch out when warrented.

But, like Tex, all the same specs (length and lie angle). Different grips for different feel

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Well said City

 

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> I assume you have been using the same putter for a while. Serious question - Do you ever feel the need to look at something else. Every once in a while a putter will just not look right, and I want a different look or feel. It might only be a few rounds or it might be a couple of months, and I'll go back to my old one.

> I love trying different styles/weights/grips etc. I mostly use the same 3 or 4 putters from the past 6-7 years. I'll throw a new one in the bag, but it usually doesn't last long

 

Yes, but far between. My Piretti has been the basis putter for ~8 years, and I've only tried maybe 2 other putters. What I don't change is the headweight, grip/size, length, or counterweight that I use in that setup. Every trial putter needs to meet those exact specs before getting a run.

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> @TheCityGame said:

> It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

>

> AND, gripes about his putting.

>

> And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

 

Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

 

There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

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> > @TheCityGame said:

> > It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

> >

> > AND, gripes about his putting.

> >

> > And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

>

> Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

>

> There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

 

One of the only weakness in his game, no?

 

Go get fitted by club champion Fabb and see what the numbers say

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Statistically you would need a ton of trials to "prove" one side or the other. But I bet if Fabb played a whole year with the same putter and played another year switching every month - his putting stats would look relatively the same.

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> @dcmidnight said:

> Statistically you would need a ton of trials to "prove" one side or the other. But I bet if Fabb played a whole year with the same putter and played another year switching every month - his putting stats would look relatively the same.

 

I look at it as one of those that it might not hurt and maybe help.

 

But i believe he was on Sam machine before his pro buddy sold his ..

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> @TheCityGame said:

> It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

>

> AND, gripes about his putting.

>

> And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

 

Also, and you know this, it's not remotely accurate to insinuate that I'm griping about my putting but am unwilling to do anything about it.

 

I've worked A TON on my putting this year. I'll potentially clip 40 rounds this handicap season, and I've been practicing putting outside one day a week pretty consistently. Those are both marked increases from the past several years. I putt inside easily 4x/week. I've done work with a putting coach to solidify my stroke. I've done a lot to improve the way I practice. I've talked with good putters I know about their approach - how they assess line/speed, routine, things they practice, etc.

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> @FAbb said:

> I've talked with good putters I know about their approach - how they assess line/speed, routine, things they practice, etc.

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(Checks emails and PM's, checks phone call log, nothing from Fabb. He's probably too embarrassed to ask. Better just volunteer to help so he won't feel guilty.)

 

So, what I do when I line up to the putt is the following.

1. Do Aimpoint halfway between ball and hole.

2. Come back to the ball and reread putt. Hold up fingers to confirm line.

3. Take my stance.

4. Look at the ball, look at hole, look back at ball.

5. Let my strong mental game take over.

6. "Ok, you've got this Rick. Looks to be about 3 balls out on the left, just get the speed right and let it die in there. (Look down at putter) "Man, been using this putter for a while now. Pulled a few on the practice green with it. Doesn't matter, right? After the round we'll check the Bay for a mallet, that'll help right? Should I get the same length? Maybe I should go shorter. Course it could be my loft? Maybe I should have that checked. Bet GMen could do it. Wonder if he'll still do work for us after Fabb ditched that putter he made after 5 minutes of use? Prolly will. Maybe I can check 2nd swing , they had putters! Oh , wait I'm over a putt right now! HIT IT!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

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> @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > @dcmidnight said:

> > > @TheCityGame said:

> > > It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

> > >

> > > AND, gripes about his putting.

> > >

> > > And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

> >

> > Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

> >

> > There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

>

> One of the only weakness in his game, no?

>

> Go get fitted by club champion Fabb and see what the numbers say

I got fitted there and changed my putter specs. It didn’t work out so I went back to the specs that I got from Bettinardi when they fitted me and made my putter. Started putting much better again.

 

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I changed my actual putting grip mid-round on Saturday. Something I had been toying with during indoor sessions but hadn't been able to practice outside before that morning.

 

Obviously FAbb is a much better player than I so the opportunities to improve are much more minute. In that same round, I also had 2 plain tops off the tee into junk just ahead of the red tees and 2 other foul balls into hazards/OB en route to a smooth 89 at WM.

 

On a separate note, infuriated reading over Sully's adventure on #16 at WM. I pumped a ball into a tree on the left and it fell straight down into junk. I re-teed and piped my 3rd shot right on line with the cart path on the left side of the fairway. Get up there, no ball. Sweet ESC 7 (there was a good chance it was going to be an ESC 7 anyways, but still).

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> @gsrjc said:

> > @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > > @dcmidnight said:

> > > > @TheCityGame said:

> > > > It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

> > > >

> > > > AND, gripes about his putting.

> > > >

> > > > And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

> > >

> > > Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

> > >

> > > There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

> >

> > One of the only weakness in his game, no?

> >

> > Go get fitted by club champion Fabb and see what the numbers say

> I got fitted there and changed my putter specs. It didn’t work out so I went back to the specs that I got from Bettinardi when they fitted me and made my putter. Started putting much better again.

>

 

It’s not a be all or end all. However ... it shows you what you are doing instead of guessing.

 

Fittings are only as good as your fitter. Not knocking Nick— but all Bettinardi does is putters (besides some wedges and golf swag)

 

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> @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > @gsrjc said:

> > > @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > > > @dcmidnight said:

> > > > > @TheCityGame said:

> > > > > It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

> > > > >

> > > > > AND, gripes about his putting.

> > > > >

> > > > > And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

> > > >

> > > > Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

> > > >

> > > > There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

> > >

> > > One of the only weakness in his game, no?

> > >

> > > Go get fitted by club champion Fabb and see what the numbers say

> > I got fitted there and changed my putter specs. It didn’t work out so I went back to the specs that I got from Bettinardi when they fitted me and made my putter. Started putting much better again.

> >

>

> It’s not a be all or end all. However ... it shows you what you are doing instead of guessing.

>

> Fittings are only as good as your fitter. Not knocking Nick— but all Bettinardi does is putters (besides some wedges and golf swag)

>

Agreed. We’ve even discussed perhaps SAM putting may not be the best vehicle and perhaps there are others. I can’t remember the name but there’s one putting system that is like $30k and uses a bunch of lights to watch the ball and see how it rolls. Apparently the Golf Doctor in DC has it.

 

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> @gsrjc said:

> > @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > > @gsrjc said:

> > > > @misplacedtexan83 said:

> > > > > @dcmidnight said:

> > > > > > @TheCityGame said:

> > > > > > It's just funny with fabb because he reads as a golf robot. Seems to care about finding every single edge to improve and yet does this one -- probably suboptimal -- thing all the time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AND, gripes about his putting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And, that's always his thing with other people. . .if you're going to gripe about something, you need to be open to changing it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of the same people I've seen gripe about ~~me ~~ Fabb changing putters so often are the same people I've seen change their brand/model of golf ball in the middle of a round.

> > > > >

> > > > > There's also the unspoken assumption that *not* changing putters makes you a better putter. I strongly disagree with that. Despite his online fake-griping, Fabb is a top tier putter, no doubt in my mind about that. Him changing putters has absolutely no affect on his ability to putt.

> > > >

> > > > One of the only weakness in his game, no?

> > > >

> > > > Go get fitted by club champion Fabb and see what the numbers say

> > > I got fitted there and changed my putter specs. It didn’t work out so I went back to the specs that I got from Bettinardi when they fitted me and made my putter. Started putting much better again.

> > >

> >

> > It’s not a be all or end all. However ... it shows you what you are doing instead of guessing.

> >

> > Fittings are only as good as your fitter. Not knocking Nick— but all Bettinardi does is putters (besides some wedges and golf swag)

> >

> Agreed. We’ve even discussed perhaps SAM putting may not be the best vehicle and perhaps there are others. I can’t remember the name but there’s one putting system that is like $30k and uses a bunch of lights to watch the ball and see how it rolls. Apparently the Golf Doctor in DC has it.

>

 

Sam is one of the best but the sensor has to be installed the same time every time.

 

Also 7 putts is not enough to truly gauge.

 

However.. for me I just reconfirmed what i already knew. Fitting recommended the same spec i had years ago.

 

Knowledge is power and if you don’t know what you do consistently or not.. it’s hard for you to know what’s best or in the ball park for you

 

 

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> Don’t be angry willboyrd. You just have to learn where to miss on that hole. It will come when you have as much experience as me.

 

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Same putter since 2012 for me. Even bought a backup in silver. Take it from me, who averages 33.3 putts per round... HAHA. One thing I’ve never thought about changing is my putter. Got fitted and it’s worked for me. Just need to learn how to putt now! And stop missing it low like City was yelling at me about.

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    • 2024 Valspar Championship WITB Photos (Thanks to bvmagic)- Discussion & Links to Photos
      This weeks WITB Pics are from member bvmagic (Brian). Brian's first event for WRX was in 2008 at Bayhill while in college. Thanks so much bv.
       
      Please put your comments or question on this thread. Links to all the threads are below...
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Monday #3
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Matt (LFG) Every - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Sahith Theegala - WITB - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Cameron putters (and new "LD" grip) - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Bettinardi MB & CB irons - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Bettinardi API putter cover - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      Custom Swag API covers - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
      New Golf Pride Reverse Taper grips - 2024 Arnold Palmer Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Cognizant Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #1
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #2
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #3
      2024 Cognizant Classic - Monday #4
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Brandt Snedeker - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Max Greyserman - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Eric Cole - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Carl Yuan - WITb - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Russell Henley - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Justin Sun - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alex Noren - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Shane Lowry - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Taylor Montgomery - WITB - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jake Knapp (KnappTime_ltd) - WITB - - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Super Stoke Pistol Lock 1.0 & 2.0 grips - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      LA Golf new insert putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Garsen Quad Tour 15 grip - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put any questions or comments here
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #1
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Garrick Higgo - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Billy Horschel - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Lanto Griffin - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bud Cauley - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Corbin Burnes (2021 NL Cy Young) - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Charley Hoffman - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Victor Perez - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ryo Hisatsune - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Jake Knapp's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      New Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Tyler Duncan's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sunjae Im's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ping's Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Vincent Whaley's custom Cameron - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Odyssey Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Super Stroke custom grips - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Zac Blair's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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