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> @QuigleyDU said:

> After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

 

What was your favorite shaft of the bunch ?

 

 

 

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> @endy said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

>

> What was your favorite shaft of the bunch ?

 

I really like the $ taper. That is the shaft that I am currently playing, but the C taper lite was actually pretty good as well. I am not a big fan of the standard C taper but the lite seemed to be baby bears porridge.

 

One more thing. I am not sure about the added camber on the new MP20s. I feel like there is too much bounce on the irons. I actually play better with a sharper leading edge.

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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> @SuperBombin said:

> > @Mikee_j said:

> > I had my custom fit last monday and Mizuno have already built and shipped the clubs to my retailer. Should be with them tomorrow.

> > Can’t wait to have a full session with the MP20’s

>

> That’s awesome. I ordered mine on the 9th. Hopefully get shipping confirmation soon!

>

 

Bear in mind, I’m in the UK. Clearly Mizuno turning orders round quick here

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Well, after what felt like 1000 balls, over the past 2 weeks trying every shaft, I finally finalized my order today. I'm sticking with dynamic gold, but going with the 120 version. I tried to like the modus 120, it was a close call. Going to stick with what I know.

 

MP-20 SEL, 5 to pw.

-1/2" on 5-9 irons and -1/4" on pw.

1° flat

Pw weakened to 47°.

GP tour velvet grips.

Taylormade Qi10 LS 9°(10°) - GD Tour AD UB 5

Taylormade BRNR 11.5°(13°) - GD Tour AD DI 6 

Taylormade SIM2 TI 5W 19°(18°) - GD Tour AD UB 7

Mizuno Pro 245 (4-pw) - DG120 S300

Mizuno T22 50° S Grind

Vokey SM8 56° D Grind

Vokey SM9 60° T Grind

Odyssey WH OG #7 Nano - Stroke Lab 3GEN Red

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> @lefty1978 said:

> Well, after what felt like 1000 balls, over the past 2 weeks trying every shaft, I finally finalized my order today. I'm sticking with dynamic gold, but going with the 120 version. I tried to like the modus 120, it was a close call. Going to stick with what I know.

>

> MP-20 SEL, 5 to pw.

> -1/2" on 5-9 irons and -1/4" on pw.

> 1° flat

> Pw weakened to 47°.

> GP tour velvet grips.

 

Nice! Tried the 3 n 4 SEL? How do they feel

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> @Kevinnz said:

> > @lefty1978 said:

> > Well, after what felt like 1000 balls, over the past 2 weeks trying every shaft, I finally finalized my order today. I'm sticking with dynamic gold, but going with the 120 version. I tried to like the modus 120, it was a close call. Going to stick with what I know.

> >

> > MP-20 SEL, 5 to pw.

> > -1/2" on 5-9 irons and -1/4" on pw.

> > 1° flat

> > Pw weakened to 47°.

> > GP tour velvet grips.

>

> Nice! Tried the 3 n 4 SEL? How do they feel

 

Unfortunately could not find a SEL HMB head to test. I hope to be able to find one after the launch.

Taylormade Qi10 LS 9°(10°) - GD Tour AD UB 5

Taylormade BRNR 11.5°(13°) - GD Tour AD DI 6 

Taylormade SIM2 TI 5W 19°(18°) - GD Tour AD UB 7

Mizuno Pro 245 (4-pw) - DG120 S300

Mizuno T22 50° S Grind

Vokey SM8 56° D Grind

Vokey SM9 60° T Grind

Odyssey WH OG #7 Nano - Stroke Lab 3GEN Red

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> @Geohans said:

> Mizunousa doesn't offer any shaft choices; where can I figure out what's available?

 

https://www.golfusamanhattan.com/mizunoirons.html

Driver: TaylorMade SIM MAX (10.5 degrees - set to 9.75 and 1.5 degrees open)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM (15 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 Black 70 TX (at 43" and tipped 1")

UDI: *** Under Construction ***

Irons: TaylorMade P-7MC 4-PW (1 degree upright)

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Tour Rack (Raw) 52.10, 56.12 & 60.12

Shaft: Nippon Pro Modus3 Wedge 125

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Mid-Slant (at 34")

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> @orangeruffy said:

> Very nice looking irons. I just wish Mizuno could build irons correctly. Went to pickup my new 919 tours today and with my past (20+ year) history with said manufacturer I asked to see the build sheet. As I suspected they were not built to what we ordered. Com'on man!! Nice product, just plan on checking lies, lofts and length. I guarantee something will be off. Now that i think of it.....time to move on!!

 

They always. Always fuck up the grips. Always slightly off to the left when built in Scotland

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> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @endy said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > After doing some personal testing of the mp20 vs. The 18s. I find them very very similar. I hit them both the same shafts. I tried DG x100s, s taper x flex and c taper lights I. X flex. The numbers were identical. Launch spin, everything. The 18s I feel have slightly sharper lines, where as the 20s are bit chubbier to my eye. They still look good but I think the edges are just a touch softer. I know that the have added thickness in the top of the club on the 20s to try and keep the ball flight down some. From what I tried the numbers are the same. But I would have to check if the adjustment is something just in the short irons. I just tried 7 iron s. I really could not tell much difference in feel. I guess I would say the 20s are softer but mizzys have always been soft so..

> >

> > What was your favorite shaft of the bunch ?

>

> I really like the $ taper. That is the shaft that I am currently playing, but the C taper lite was actually pretty good as well. I am not a big fan of the standard C taper but the lite seemed to be baby bears porridge.

>

> One more thing. I am not sure about the added camber on the new MP20s. I feel like there is too much bounce on the irons. I actually play better with a sharper leading edge.

 

 

 

Just wanted to say I’m appreciating this discussion. Dreaming about getting fit one day for a combo set. Thanks all!

 

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My custom set arrived today to my retailer’s shop. I can’t get them until later in the week so I’m having them check lofts and lies etc. Wedges haven’t arrived and are apparently backordered according to retailer.

ONOFF Labospec 358 — Tour AD TP6
Titleist TS2 16.5* — Kuro Kage XM 80
Justick Proceed 21* UT — Nippon GOST 
Mizuno MP-20 HMB/MB— MITSUBISHI MMT 105/125
Mizuno T20 50* and 55* — MITSUBISHI MMT 125
Seven ST 61* Black Boron — MCI Black 125 “mild”
Epon Ltd Edition I-33 — Matrix PZ-125 Shaft 
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I should be getting my custom order Friday.

Taylormade Qi10 LS 9°(10°) - GD Tour AD UB 5

Taylormade BRNR 11.5°(13°) - GD Tour AD DI 6 

Taylormade SIM2 TI 5W 19°(18°) - GD Tour AD UB 7

Mizuno Pro 245 (4-pw) - DG120 S300

Mizuno T22 50° S Grind

Vokey SM8 56° D Grind

Vokey SM9 60° T Grind

Odyssey WH OG #7 Nano - Stroke Lab 3GEN Red

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Got the word today that mine will be there Wednesday or Thursday. Can’t get them till Friday so I’ll be able to have the speck checked as well. Probably a good idea since Mizuno is so overwhelmed with orders.

-Taylormade BRNR 11.5* set at 9.5* Ventus Red TR 7X playing 44.25”
-Mizuno STz 230 hybrid 16* set at 15* Ventus Blue 8X

-Mizuno STz 230 hybrid 19* Ventus Blue 9X

-Mizuno JPX 923 Forged4&5, Tour 6-PW Project X LS 6.5
-Titleist Vokey SM9 50F set to 51*, 56D, & 62M set to 61*

-Mizuno M-Craft OMOI Type 1 Blue Putter

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I ordered back in August with DG AMT S 300 which is a standard set but I copied the loft specs of the SEL set.

ONOFF Labospec 358 — Tour AD TP6
Titleist TS2 16.5* — Kuro Kage XM 80
Justick Proceed 21* UT — Nippon GOST 
Mizuno MP-20 HMB/MB— MITSUBISHI MMT 105/125
Mizuno T20 50* and 55* — MITSUBISHI MMT 125
Seven ST 61* Black Boron — MCI Black 125 “mild”
Epon Ltd Edition I-33 — Matrix PZ-125 Shaft 
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My local GG has a full set of the SEL's on display. Man, what a beautiful looking set of irons. As a lefty, it's a dream to be able to snag this muscle design with moderns lines. Been a user of the MB2's for a longgg time, and assuming these perform, they will be the ones to finally kick the Adams out of the bag. Just a perfect clean look, nice little bit of mass in the muscle, really excited to give these a go.

[b]TaylorMade SIM[/b] - 10.5 deg - w/ Aldila Synergy Black Proto 60-TX tipped 0.5 - 44.75"
[b]Adams XTD TI[/b] - 2 hybrid (16.5 deg) - Matrix HM3 105g X
[b]TaylorMade P790 -[/b] 3i (1 deg weak) - KBS C-Taper Lite-X (ss1)
[b]TaylorMade P790 -[/b] 4-6: (2 deg weak) - KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Adams MB2 - [/b] 7-PW: KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Titleist Vokey[/b] SM4: 50 F Grind - KBS C-Taper 130x (ss1)
[b]Callaway[/b] PM Grind 56 - bent to 55, PM Grind 60 - Dynamic Gold TI s400
[b]Tiger NP2 Replica G.O.A.T.:[/b] - 35.5in

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Was able to make it in and pick mine up. Had my retailer check lofts and lies. Lofts were spot in but all the MBs were 3/4* flat to requested spec while the HMBs were perfect. Weird. Beautiful clubs.

ONOFF Labospec 358 — Tour AD TP6
Titleist TS2 16.5* — Kuro Kage XM 80
Justick Proceed 21* UT — Nippon GOST 
Mizuno MP-20 HMB/MB— MITSUBISHI MMT 105/125
Mizuno T20 50* and 55* — MITSUBISHI MMT 125
Seven ST 61* Black Boron — MCI Black 125 “mild”
Epon Ltd Edition I-33 — Matrix PZ-125 Shaft 
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Was able to make it in and pick mine up. Had my retailer check lofts and lies. Lofts were spot in but all the MBs were 3/4* flat to requested spec while the HMBs were perfect. Weird. Beautiful clubs. 01465-AB8-AD5-B-4451-AC3-C-7-B6-A992-B6169DDB165-B3-1-B8-B-4-A26-BDC0-334121736-C43

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ONOFF Labospec 358 — Tour AD TP6
Titleist TS2 16.5* — Kuro Kage XM 80
Justick Proceed 21* UT — Nippon GOST 
Mizuno MP-20 HMB/MB— MITSUBISHI MMT 105/125
Mizuno T20 50* and 55* — MITSUBISHI MMT 125
Seven ST 61* Black Boron — MCI Black 125 “mild”
Epon Ltd Edition I-33 — Matrix PZ-125 Shaft 
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Which looks chunky? Mine are a split set of HMB and MBs.

ONOFF Labospec 358 — Tour AD TP6
Titleist TS2 16.5* — Kuro Kage XM 80
Justick Proceed 21* UT — Nippon GOST 
Mizuno MP-20 HMB/MB— MITSUBISHI MMT 105/125
Mizuno T20 50* and 55* — MITSUBISHI MMT 125
Seven ST 61* Black Boron — MCI Black 125 “mild”
Epon Ltd Edition I-33 — Matrix PZ-125 Shaft 
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