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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range  4867Posted: Sponsors Posts: 4,867
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    @jgard320 said:
    It's looking like the ultimate fairway profile for me. I actually really enjoyed the stock hzrdus yellow that came in a lot of last year's models. This seems like a similar concept with less on the extreme ends and better quality materials.

    It definitely spins less than Hzrdus yellow.

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  • jgard320jgard320  446Posted: ClubWRX Posts: 446
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    @TollBros said:

    @jgard320 said:
    It's looking like the ultimate fairway profile for me. I actually really enjoyed the stock hzrdus yellow that came in a lot of last year's models. This seems like a similar concept with less on the extreme ends and better quality materials.

    It definitely spins less than Hzrdus yellow.

    Then it's going to be a great fairway profile for me. Can't wait for mine to get here.

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range  4867Posted: Sponsors Posts: 4,867
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    @jgard320 said:

    @TollBros said:

    @jgard320 said:
    It's looking like the ultimate fairway profile for me. I actually really enjoyed the stock hzrdus yellow that came in a lot of last year's models. This seems like a similar concept with less on the extreme ends and better quality materials.

    It definitely spins less than Hzrdus yellow.

    Then it's going to be a great fairway profile for me. Can't wait for mine to get here.

    I believe you'll love it. And seriously every time I look at these ZF's, I can't help but think just how **** good they look. Simple yet stunning.

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  • senorpollosenorpollo  26Posted: Members Posts: 26
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    Sorry for the ignorance but how would the ZF compare to the TourAD DI? Don’t have a fitter from where I’m from so ✌🏻

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    Titleist 917 F2 16.5
    Diamana BF 60S
    Titleist 917 F2 18(19.5) Diamana BF 60S
    Honma TW 737V 4-10 Modus 105 R
    Titleist SM6 50.08F Modus 105 R (Red)
    Titleist SM6 54
    .10S & 58.10S Modus 115 Wedge (Masters Green)
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    @senorpollo said:
    Sorry for the ignorance but how would the ZF compare to the TourAD DI? Don’t have a fitter from where I’m from so ✌🏻

    If you'd like to send me over some data and video or swing info, I'd be happy to make a recommendation for you.

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  • golfgolfgurugolfgolfguru  34Posted: Members Posts: 34
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    Interested in a comparison to ad di too.

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  • jgard320jgard320  446Posted: ClubWRX Posts: 446
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    I can't give numbers, but AD-DI is generally regarded as similar to a blueboard profile. I want to say that BF is a bit softer throughout, but follows the same general profile. ZF goes stiffer in the butt and tip, and for a point in the mid, goes softer than the BF. See below:

    It might be more appropriate to think of ZF as a stiffer handled DF than some sort of radically different BF. Here is the Tensei Blue for comparison:

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  • Red4282Red4282  499Posted: Members Posts: 499
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    @jgard320 said:
    I can't give numbers, but AD-DI is generally regarded as similar to a blueboard profile. I want to say that BF is a bit softer throughout, but follows the same general profile. ZF goes stiffer in the butt and tip, and for a point in the mid, goes softer than the BF. See below:

    It might be more appropriate to think of ZF as a stiffer handled DF than some sort of radically different BF. Here is the Tensei Blue for comparison:

    To me looks like the zf is like a combo of the bf/df. Butt of the bf merged with the tip of the df.

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  • jjmurryjjmurry Washington, DC 189Posted: Members Posts: 189
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    Anyone gaming this yet in a fairway wood?

    Hoping it becomes my go to 250 to 260 club that's point and shoot. Currently have a TS2 3w but it's too spinny and needs a shaft that will knock down the flight and spin as I primarily use it off the tee.

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    Titleist TS2 3W - Diamana ZF 75TX
    Titleist U510 - Project X HZRDZ Smoke Black 85g 6.5
    JPX 900 Tour PW-4i - C-Taper 130x
    Vokey SM7 - 52*, 56*, 60* - C-Taper 130x
    Tommy Armour Impact #3
    Snell MTB-X
  • farris207farris207  5Posted: Members Posts: 5
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    I'm very interested in picking one of these up as well. I was playing a KK DC XT 60TX and it was by far the best I've ever driven the ball. Sadly that shaft cracked and is no longer playable. How does this compare to the KK XT? I've hit the BF and quite liked it. Felt like I really got a huge transfer of energy with that shaft into the ball with the BF. It was just a little too soft for a driver. I think it would be amazing in a 3 wood. How do the BF and ZF compare? My driver swing is very sensitive to the timing changes of different shafts, so that is always my biggest worry. I've struggled in the past with counter balanced shafts like the PO, and butt soft shafts like the D+.

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    @farris207 said:
    I'm very interested in picking one of these up as well. I was playing a KK DC XT 60TX and it was by far the best I've ever driven the ball. Sadly that shaft cracked and is no longer playable. How does this compare to the KK XT? I've hit the BF and quite liked it. Felt like I really got a huge transfer of energy with that shaft into the ball with the BF. It was just a little too soft for a driver. I think it would be amazing in a 3 wood. How do the BF and ZF compare? My driver swing is very sensitive to the timing changes of different shafts, so that is always my biggest worry. I've struggled in the past with counter balanced shafts like the PO, and butt soft shafts like the D+.

    i hit this yesterday, it has a firmer feel than the BF but not nearly has firm in the mid section as the XT. The XT is softer in the handle and firm in the mid, the zf is firmer in the handle and softer in the mid, so a bit of opposites. the flight was higher with the Zf than what i remember with the XT. The flight was not noticeably different than a BF for me, but I was not on a launch monitor. I liked it much better than the XT, but I prefer softer mid shafts.

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    M3 3hl 17* Diamana BF 80tx
    Apex Hybrid 20*  AD-DI 105x
    RSI UDI 2  Mitsu OT 105x
    4 T-mb Dynamic Gold 
    5-pw Honma 737vn Dynamic Gold
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  • farris207farris207  5Posted: Members Posts: 5
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    Thanks for the info. I really like the elastic load/unload feeling of the BF. The BF really made the ball feel like it jumped of the face to me. Does the ZF retain that feeling even with it being a firmer feel?

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  • hargraves1066hargraves1066 Orlando FL 23Posted: Members Posts: 23
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    @farris207 said:
    Thanks for the info. I really like the elastic load/unload feeling of the BF. The BF really made the ball feel like it jumped of the face to me. Does the ZF retain that feeling even with it being a firmer feel?

    I use the BF (80 TX) in my 3 metal, just received my ZF from Toll yesterday and I’m hoping to get out for test round with it today. I’ll let you know how overall feels stacks up with the BF.

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  • jgard320jgard320  446Posted: ClubWRX Posts: 446
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    This is probably the easiest fairway shaft to launch off the deck that I have ever hit. It gets up to the apex quickly and just kind of hangs out up there and carries. Not too spinny either and the feel is incredible. Very stable but at the same time it doesn’t take too much effort to load. Instantly in the bag. Might not have the most pure distance low spin potential as something like Rogue White, but I feel like I could deliver this profile to the ball with my eyes closed.

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  • farris207farris207  5Posted: Members Posts: 5
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    Toll.. sent you a PM and payment to get a new shaft selection going.

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  • TollBrosTollBros Overseer of the Test Range  4867Posted: Sponsors Posts: 4,867
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    @farris207 said:
    Toll.. sent you a PM and payment to get a new shaft selection going.

    Got it. I think if you're looking for that smoothness but still low spin with ease of launch, ZF is great. And I've said this 10 times but man is this thing beautiful in the sunlight!

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  • gambitgambit  4312Posted: Members Posts: 4,312
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    @jgard320 said:
    This is probably the easiest fairway shaft to launch off the deck that I have ever hit. It gets up to the apex quickly and just kind of hangs out up there and carries. Not too spinny either and the feel is incredible. Very stable but at the same time it doesn’t take too much effort to load. Instantly in the bag. Might not have the most pure distance low spin potential as something like Rogue White, but I feel like I could deliver this profile to the ball with my eyes closed.

    I was on one of those online chats with a service rep for MRC and he said that the ZF was slightly lower spin than the DF. I ordered a 60 for my driver and a couple of 80s for the fairways. Really hoping that this works out. Have AD TP shafts in my fairways now, and they're fine, but I literally get 0 roll out.

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  • Red4282Red4282  499Posted: Members Posts: 499
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    @gambit said:

    @jgard320 said:
    This is probably the easiest fairway shaft to launch off the deck that I have ever hit. It gets up to the apex quickly and just kind of hangs out up there and carries. Not too spinny either and the feel is incredible. Very stable but at the same time it doesn’t take too much effort to load. Instantly in the bag. Might not have the most pure distance low spin potential as something like Rogue White, but I feel like I could deliver this profile to the ball with my eyes closed.

    I was on one of those online chats with a service rep for MRC and he said that the ZF was slightly lower spin than the DF. I ordered a 60 for my driver and a couple of 80s for the fairways. Really hoping that this works out. Have AD TP shafts in my fairways now, and they're fine, but I literally get 0 roll out.

    Id like to hear your results, ive played the ad tp as well.

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    @Red4282 said:

    @gambit said:

    @jgard320 said:
    This is probably the easiest fairway shaft to launch off the deck that I have ever hit. It gets up to the apex quickly and just kind of hangs out up there and carries. Not too spinny either and the feel is incredible. Very stable but at the same time it doesn’t take too much effort to load. Instantly in the bag. Might not have the most pure distance low spin potential as something like Rogue White, but I feel like I could deliver this profile to the ball with my eyes closed.

    I was on one of those online chats with a service rep for MRC and he said that the ZF was slightly lower spin than the DF. I ordered a 60 for my driver and a couple of 80s for the fairways. Really hoping that this works out. Have AD TP shafts in my fairways now, and they're fine, but I literally get 0 roll out.

    Id like to hear your results, ive played the ad tp as well.

    It’ll be a couple of weeks. Played a few holes this evening with my daughter. Still no roll with the AD TP shafts (Titleist fws) or with the the DF (410+ driver). Might get a TS3 for the ZF 60

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  • mah2010mah2010 Grande Prairie AB 386Posted: Members Posts: 386
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    Anyone have a direct comparison to the Ventus blue?

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  • nbiggnbigg Ottawa, Canada 418Posted: Members Posts: 418
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    Quick question. There seems to be this version in the pics on the first page and a silver ion version. What’s the difference if any? Could just be the sunlight but the pics on the first page look blue. Thanks

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    @nbigg said:
    Quick question. There seems to be this version in the pics on the first page and a silver ion version. What’s the difference if any? Could just be the sunlight but the pics on the first page look blue. Thanks

    It's the silver ion shaft in the photos. Definitely not blue.

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    Thanks!

    @TollBros said:

    @nbigg said:
    Quick question. There seems to be this version in the pics on the first page and a silver ion version. What’s the difference if any? Could just be the sunlight but the pics on the first page look blue. Thanks

    It's the silver ion shaft in the photos. Definitely not blue.

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  • jgard320jgard320  446Posted: ClubWRX Posts: 446
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    Had this out in the bright sunlight this past weekend. Shines like a rainbow when you angle it right.

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  • jjmurryjjmurry Washington, DC 189Posted: Members Posts: 189
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    Got mine in the mail this afternoon - thanks Toll Bros!! It's as beautiful as I've ever seen a golf shaft. Incredible in the light. Will report back after it's hit. Currently in my TS2 3W. Hoping for some bullets!

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    @jjmurry said:
    Got mine in the mail this afternoon - thanks Toll Bros!! It's as beautiful as I've ever seen a golf shaft. Incredible in the light. Will report back after it's hit. Currently in my TS2 3W. Hoping for some bullets!

    I have one going into a TS2 3W once my club builder gets home in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to your review.

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  • jjmurryjjmurry Washington, DC 189Posted: Members Posts: 189
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    @gambit said:

    @jjmurry said:
    Got mine in the mail this afternoon - thanks Toll Bros!! It's as beautiful as I've ever seen a golf shaft. Incredible in the light. Will report back after it's hit. Currently in my TS2 3W. Hoping for some bullets!

    I have one going into a TS2 3W once my club builder gets home in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to your review.

    Just tested it out. It's a winner! I am admittedly the world's worst fairway wood player and this thing had me hitting some of the hardest hit 3W shots I've ever hit. I was able to work it either way nicely and flight it as well as I ever have for a fairway shaft. I may FINALLY be able to hit a 3W off a tee for once!

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    Ping G410 LST - Tensei CK Orange 65X
    Titleist TS2 3W - Diamana ZF 75TX
    Titleist U510 - Project X HZRDZ Smoke Black 85g 6.5
    JPX 900 Tour PW-4i - C-Taper 130x
    Vokey SM7 - 52*, 56*, 60* - C-Taper 130x
    Tommy Armour Impact #3
    Snell MTB-X
  • djhgolfdjhgolf  753Posted: Members Posts: 753
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    Any driver feedback yet? How does this compare to Tensei Pro White?

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    @jjmurry said:

    @gambit said:

    @jjmurry said:
    Got mine in the mail this afternoon - thanks Toll Bros!! It's as beautiful as I've ever seen a golf shaft. Incredible in the light. Will report back after it's hit. Currently in my TS2 3W. Hoping for some bullets!

    I have one going into a TS2 3W once my club builder gets home in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to your review.

    Just tested it out. It's a winner! I am admittedly the world's worst fairway wood player and this thing had me hitting some of the hardest hit 3W shots I've ever hit. I was able to work it either way nicely and flight it as well as I ever have for a fairway shaft. I may FINALLY be able to hit a 3W off a tee for once!

    Thank you baby Jesus!

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  • ValtielValtiel Konica-Minolta Bizhub  2527Posted: Members Posts: 2,527
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    Did I see this in Justin Thomas' driver last week? The Diamana BF has a very noticeable change from silver to blue and this shaft definitely does not while clearly still being a Diamana:


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    Callaway XHot 3Deep Pro 14.5* Veylix Rome 888x || Taylormade M1 13* Kuro Kage Dual Core 80TX
    Cobra F6 Baffler 16* Tensei Pro Orange 90TX || Taylormade RSI UDI 16* Fujikura Motore Speeder HB 9.8 Tour-Spec X
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    Mizuno MP-H4 4i 24* Project X PXi 7.0
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    Vokey Mild Raw 8620 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
    Vokey  SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision FCM 7.3 SSx1
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