Ping's new G410 LST driver

[juggernaut0629]

I owned the 410+ and the 410 LST. I ended up selling the 410+ & kept the LST. Both were 9*. I used a few different shafts in each. Ultimately I'm gaming the LST with the stock evenflow black at 45.25" with the head set up animal style double 9 gram weights. Swingweight comes @ E0. Weights placed in the heel & toe ports. SUPER stable. While the 410+ had a softer feel at contact, the LST is just ridiculous. I've hit some ridiculous bombs with the LST. And it's completely workable in both directions. I can hit a cut & turn it over. Whatever is needed from this club, it's there.

 

On a second note. A buddy of mine bought the 410+ from me. He's hitting it so well. Plays a smooth draw. Hitting drives farther than he ever has. His comment was the club swings itself. He's playing the stock Tensei Orange @ 45.25" D6 at 52 yrs of age.

[swizbeatz]

I’m about ready to move on from the Max, I want to grab something with more loft. Sounds like I need to hit both the + and the LS though, years past I’d just grab the LS every time.

[boxerdoc]

So I wanted to share my experiences today with feeding. I currently game a G 400 LST, 8.5 with a hzrdus yellow 75, 6.0 at 45.25.The short of it is I will be keeping the G 400. If you want more detail read on.

 

The G 400 LST had a spin right on average of 2400, regardless of what shaft I put into the G410 LST the lowest I could get the spin was 2800. I will say, I liked the looks and sound of g410 but based on dispersion and distance there was no advantage and actually for me a disadvantage. Are usually play a slight fade for my driver, I placed the weight in the neutral and the draw position and did not see any difference in my flight.

With all of that being said I do have a negative attack angle and also come over the top when I get lazy, meaning it’s more me than any driver I could every buy but I was able to see similar flight and shape with both drivers, just better with mine. A good $500 savings experiment and the fact that I got to experience 5 different shafts was cool. Numbers were on Trackman.

[scott_Donald]

> @"Big Ben" said:

> I ordered it maybe a little less than two weeks ago. Something like that, not too bad.

 

> @Unteachable said:

> My lst digital loft with custom length and swing weight was ordered last Monday and came in today. Guess I got lucky

 

Guess I have been lucky. it shipped today, should arrive Tuesday!

[jjmurry]

Got mine on Sunday with the CK Orange and it took about 200 balls to dial it in, but boy is this thing straight as an arrow and LONG. Probably 10 yards longer than my F9. What a driver!

[bladehunter]

Still the best driver I’ve hit. I must have hit on a perfect combo. Months into it and I’m still turning it both ways and it’s deep ! Just so solid !

[Kale_m]

Might give this a go over the winter in testing. Loving the 410 plus right now. Tweaking shafts right now but love everything about it.

[SJP1]

Testing for a new driver for the first time since 2016. Coming from '16 M2 with AD-IZ.

Love the M2 but looking into the potential gains in ballspeed and stability as I like to strike driver in that slightly high-toe area which draws spin down.

So have shortlisted three newer heads which have the option of moving weight out to the toe in order to position the mass of the head more in line with strike location - G410 LST, Epic Flash Sub Zero and TS3.

While having a mostly Titleist bag the TS3 is my least preferred option based on previous experiences owning 910, 913, 915.

I'm not a massive fan of the Ping's sound, but the G410 LST is my top preference of the three as it looks great at address and from what I've heard is fast from the high-toe area - and while being low spin, is really stable.

On paper, the heavier Ping head could also be a really good way of me hanging on to the IZ as it's got a slightly higher balance point.

Does anyone have any feedback on how the G410 LST goes out of that slightly high-toe area or any comparisons for how it matched up to the Epic Flash SZ/TS3?

[SMUGamer]

> @SJP1 said:

> Testing for a new driver for the first time since 2016. Coming from '16 M2 with AD-IZ.

> Love the M2 but looking into the potential gains in ballspeed and stability as I like to strike driver in that slightly high-toe area which draws spin down.

> So have shortlisted three newer heads which have the option of moving weight out to the toe in order to position the mass of the head more in line with strike location - G410 LST, Epic Flash Sub Zero and TS3.

> While having a mostly Titleist bag the TS3 is my least preferred option based on previous experiences owning 910, 913, 915.

> I'm not a massive fan of the Ping's sound, but the G410 LST is my top preference of the three as it looks great at address and from what I've heard is fast from the high-toe area - and while being low spin, is really stable.

> On paper, the heavier Ping head could also be a really good way of me hanging on to the IZ as it's got a slightly higher balance point.

> Does anyone have any feedback on how the G410 LST goes out of that slightly high-toe area or any comparisons for how it matched up to the Epic Flash SZ/TS3?

I thought the same and went into it with my personal preference before seeing the hard results. The TS3 beat 'em all, for me. Don't go into it with a favorite, just let the results call the winner.

[royourboat]

What does going to flat settings do to face angle?

[Hammer22]

> @royourboat said:

> What does going to flat settings do to face angle?

Easy to find on the internet...

 

 

 

 

 

[GolfChannel]

> @jjmurry said:

> Got mine on Sunday with the CK Orange and it took about 200 balls to dial it in, but boy is this thing straight as an arrow and LONG. Probably 10 yards longer than my F9. What a driver!

 

What was involved in the dialing in process?

[jjmurry]

Got mine on Sunday with the CK Orange and it took about 200 balls to dial it in, but boy is this thing straight as an arrow and LONG. Probably 10 yards longer than my F9. What a driver!> @GolfChannel said:

> > @jjmurry said:

> > Got mine on Sunday with the CK Orange and it took about 200 balls to dial it in, but boy is this thing straight as an arrow and LONG. Probably 10 yards longer than my F9. What a driver!

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> What was involved in the dialing in process?

 

Much different shaft profile from driver to driver. Went from the AD IZ in a cobra F9 (high launch, different feeling kick) to the Tensei orange in the G410 LST. Plus learning where on the face I get the most distance/what type of trajectories I get. Maybe I'm totally overthinking it but I feel like it's finally "my driver" if that makes sense. Not just a club I hit at the range during the fitting.

[royourboat]

> @Hammer22 said:

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> > What does going to flat settings do to face angle?

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Thanks Hammer22. I guess what I really wanted to ask was, what situations does it lean itself to in a fitting? Obviously if you're hands are lower than standard at impact you have more created more neutral or natural face and path, but I doubt that is for me.

 

I think maybe coz I was hitting big draws with EF SZ and hook is my miss, the Ping 410LST was anti-left to me. Maybe the fitter was thinking lowering the lie closes the face and would help tighten the fades (all else being equal)?

[cardoustie]

went back to the 400 LST, just preferred the feel and ability to hit high draws, my preferred shape

[RH82]

Was looking at one in my local pro shop the other day and when soled it swung wide open like crazy. I love drivers that sit open but this one was extreme. Anyone see any LST's like this in person?

[jjmurry]

> @RH82 said:

> Was looking at one in my local pro shop the other day and when soled it swung wide open like crazy. I love drivers that sit open but this one was extreme. Anyone see any LST's like this in person?

 

I would say that generally speaking the LST sits pretty open at address, not sure what you observed but a few degrees seems normal on mine. I personally like it so it's not a huge deal for me.

[3_Jack_Par]

This is what my LST looks like at address in the -1 flat setting.

[johnnybogey]

I've had this driver in the bag the entire summer and had hands down my best driving season. Incredible driver.

[scott_Donald]

> @"3 Jack Par" said:

> This is what my LST looks like at address in the -1 flat setting.

 

mine sits more open at 9* standard.

 

 

 

[GS123]

club head is too light w 16g and the tensi 60x feels way too light why didnt this come with a weight kit? why should i have to order that how annoying

[Kale_m]

> @GS123 said:

> club head is too light w 16g and the tensi 60x feels way too light why didnt this come with a weight kit? why should i have to order that how annoying

 

Too light? It is one of the heaviest heads on the market

[oregongolf]

> @cardoustie said:

> went back to the 400 LST, just preferred the feel and ability to hit high draws, my preferred shape

 

I still have yet to hit this, but have a 400 LST.

 

Did you find the 410 to be _**more**_ fade biased?

 

That gives me pause. I found my G400 LST to be one of the most fade biased drivers I've ever had. I like my G400 head for sure, but it was immediately noticeable compared to M5, Epic Flash, etc.

[Big Ben]

The 410 has been more accurate, betting sounding and straighter for me than the 400. Your mileage may very....

[manima1]

> @oregongolf said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > went back to the 400 LST, just preferred the feel and ability to hit high draws, my preferred shape

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> I still have yet to hit this, but have a 400 LST.

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> Did you find the 410 to be _**more**_ fade biased?

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> That gives me pause. I found my G400 LST to be one of the most fade biased drivers I've ever had. I like my G400 head for sure, but it was immediately noticeable compared to M5, Epic Flash, etc.

 

Interesting.... the M5 is one of the most fade biased drivers (in neutral setting) that you can buy.

[cardoustie]

it is the lower flight vs directional bias that converted me

love the m5 face at address

[Albatross_Ace]

put me in the "this driver is absolutely amazing" camp. I tend to deliver the club too far from the inside, so being able to put the weight towards the toe is very nice to have. I gamed an epic sz for multiple seasons, and this 410 lst has been way more accurate for me, and not any shorter.

[wfrogge1]

Won some money in a tournament and picked up a 90 day return 410 LST off the rack to play with. The driver feels "meh" compared to my TS3 at impact and of course they are equal distance wise. Might take it back.

[Mikey5e]

What's the msrp? $800?

[Hammer22]

> @Mikey5e said:

> What's the msrp? $800?

 

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