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> @golfinguru11 said:

> Been playing the black 130 60TX in an epic flash sub zero. Was fit into the black due to launch but now I’m having trouble fighting the hooks. I wonder if tipping 1/2” or 1” would do anything

 

It's generally not going to really help a ton with that. Could be you don't agree with the balance of the club or the exact set up.

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> @Dcoop86 said:

> > @Flashwurks said:

> > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> >

> > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

>

> My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

 

This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

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> @golfinguru11 said:

> > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > >

> > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> >

> > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

>

> This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

 

He is.

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> @golfinguru11 said:

> > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > >

> > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> >

> > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

>

> This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

 

I can’t figure a reason to lie? I don’t think I win anything for swinging faster than most?

 

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> @Dcoop86 said:

> > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > > >

> > > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> > >

> > > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

> >

> > This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

>

> I can’t figure a reason to lie? I don’t think I win anything for swinging faster than most?

>

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This is honestly incredible. Do you compete in long drive comps?

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> @golfinguru11 said:

> > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > >

> > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> >

> > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

>

> This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

 

He does. Ive seen the data right from txg. Dude is a legit 375 carry driver of the golf ball. Believe it or not I've fit at least 20 guys over 125 swing speed in the last year or so. 130 these days is not that uncommon. It says a lot about Rogue White 130 as well.

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> @golfinguru11 said:

> > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

> > >

> > > This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

> >

> > I can’t figure a reason to lie? I don’t think I win anything for swinging faster than most?

> >

> > dqbi41gg6w4n.jpeg

> > 0a23y100c3th.jpeg

> > 833f2tdqkq2s.jpeg

> >

>

> This is honestly incredible. Do you compete in long drive comps?

 

No honestly I’ve never swung anything over 45.75” to be honest. The club data above is with a 45” EOG club. I’ve been tempted to try but I honestly enjoy tournament golf too much to give up a “good swing” for long drive. Im not great but love playing when I can.

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> @Dcoop86 said:

> > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > @golfinguru11 said:

> > > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > > > @Flashwurks said:

> > > > > > > @Dcoop86 said:

> > > > > > > I just purchased a White 60tx tipped 2.25” from Toll (actually I bought a Silver as well). The White May be the best shaft I’ve ever had in a driver and that includes the Synergy 60 and 70tx from Toll as well as the Pro Orange 60tx. This thing is incredible. I’ve hit some of the longest balls I’ve ever hit on course and misses are staying on the course. It’s awesome. I may have to buy a backup at some point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can I ask how you ended up tipping 2.25"? That sounds like a lot for a shaft that stiff, but I think knowing why would give me insight into what I should do. Thank you.

> > > > >

> > > > > My club speed typically hovers at 130mph on trackman and recently was fit at TXG with speeds averaging around 137mph (on their GCQuad) with a high of 144mph when they asked me to really go after one. The speed along with the head weight around 210g lead to the tipping decision. The Silver was tipped 1.75” if I remember correctly.

> > > >

> > > > This would be in line with the best long drivers in the world, who use 48 inch shafts specially made to hit it hard. Highly doubt you are swinging 144mph club head speed with a 45 inch driver, with all due respect.

> > >

> > > I can’t figure a reason to lie? I don’t think I win anything for swinging faster than most?

> > >

> > > dqbi41gg6w4n.jpeg

> > > 0a23y100c3th.jpeg

> > > 833f2tdqkq2s.jpeg

> > >

> >

> > This is honestly incredible. Do you compete in long drive comps?

>

> No honestly I’ve never swung anything over 45.75” to be honest. The club data above is with a 45” EOG club. I’ve been tempted to try but I honestly enjoy tournament golf too much to give up a “good swing” for long drive. Im not great but love playing when I can.

 

If you’re swinging over 140 with a 45 inch driver you literally have a decent shot to be the world long drive champ. I’d at least give it a shot. If you’re a +1 I’d reckon you’re too good for it to ruin your game anyways.

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> @Dcoop86 said:

> > @shellbmb said:

> > How many member/guest requests do you get a year?? lol!!

>

> I have at least one this year... but I get a lot of scramble calls

>

Yasss, partner. But I can confirm he can smoke the ball, it's quite amazing to see in person because it isn't an uber aggressive looking swing. Can't wait to see what he can do with the Aldila Rogue.

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Interested in trying this out. Sounds like I would like it. Playing the Fuji pro 2.0 TS 6x right now in my g410 plus. Swing at 122mph. Had the PO70tx for a bit. It was ok for me but moved on.

 

The slight Cb of the white and the lower launch and spin have me Curious

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> @TollBros said:

> > @Kwheat said:

> > Anyone have any idea if we will ever get the white in stiff flex or is it gonna be tour only?

>

> Possibly sometime next year.

 

Thanks @TollBros trying to decide on a Copper, PO or White, but the 300 buck difference is rough to swallow lol. I should just get some freaking videos recorded and get fitted from you lol

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> @Kwheat said:

> > @TollBros said:

> > > @Kwheat said:

> > > Anyone have any idea if we will ever get the white in stiff flex or is it gonna be tour only?

> >

> > Possibly sometime next year.

>

> Thanks @TollBros trying to decide on a Copper, PO or White, but the 300 buck difference is rough to swallow lol. I should just get some freaking videos recorded and get fitted from you lol

 

That would be great. The Copper is much different than the other two. Noticably softer and higher launch and spin. It's a great shaft, but not in the same spin or stability category as the other two.

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> @Kale_m said:

> Interested in trying this out. Sounds like I would like it. Playing the Fuji pro 2.0 TS 6x right now in my g410 plus. Swing at 122mph. Had the PO70tx for a bit. It was ok for me but moved on.

>

> The slight Cb of the white and the lower launch and spin have me Curious

 

If the tipping is right, I haven't found anything that spins less for me. I've used it all year and continue to do so.

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> @TollBros said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > Interested in trying this out. Sounds like I would like it. Playing the Fuji pro 2.0 TS 6x right now in my g410 plus. Swing at 122mph. Had the PO70tx for a bit. It was ok for me but moved on.

> >

> > The slight Cb of the white and the lower launch and spin have me Curious

>

> If the tipping is right, I haven't found anything that spins less for me. I've used it all year and continue to do so.

 

I can second this. I had the PO 60tx and now the White 60tx. I feel like it’s a bit “tighter” in few and the spin dropped about 300rpm on average for me. Definitely happy I pulled the trigger... for whatever that helps.

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> @Dcoop86 said:

> > @TollBros said:

> > > @Kale_m said:

> > > Interested in trying this out. Sounds like I would like it. Playing the Fuji pro 2.0 TS 6x right now in my g410 plus. Swing at 122mph. Had the PO70tx for a bit. It was ok for me but moved on.

> > >

> > > The slight Cb of the white and the lower launch and spin have me Curious

> >

> > If the tipping is right, I haven't found anything that spins less for me. I've used it all year and continue to do so.

>

> I can second this. I had the PO 60tx and now the White 60tx. I feel like it’s a bit “tighter” in few and the spin dropped about 300rpm on average for me. Definitely happy I pulled the trigger... for whatever that helps.

 

I don't think we've really had anyone who was unhappy with this shaft, so long as we fit them into it. It's a very linear feeling shaft, stout yet smooth and incredibly low spin.

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> @MakersMarsh3 said:

> Any updated thoughts coming? @TollBros

 

I'm still playing it in driver and 3 wood and haven't seen any reason to switch to anything else in my playing set at this point. I'm not a big switcher of my personal equipment though. I like to stick with what works and what I can count on. I do have some thoughts on something new coming tomorrow though.

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> @TollBros said:

> > @MakersMarsh3 said:

> > Any updated thoughts coming? @TollBros

>

> I'm still playing it in driver and 3 wood and haven't seen any reason to switch to anything else in my playing set at this point. I'm not a big switcher of my personal equipment though. I like to stick with what works and what I can count on. I do have some thoughts on something new coming tomorrow though.

Hey are we going to get any info on the Proto RIP?

 

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Had a chance to hit the Rogue White 130 today. It's in a 2016 M2 9.5

 

It is as Toll has said. Smooth. Holy cow. For as stiff as it is you don't have to swing out of your shoes to make this shaft work either.

 

Very much a one piece feel. If you're looking for something that has a hinge feel. This isn't the shaft.

 

No data to prove anything in terms of spin etc...

It was a steady 10-12 mph wind. The wind does not move the ball much at all. It must be as Toll has said Very low spin. Also not hard to hit relatively high either. Just move it up a little. Launches easy.

 

I have not hit a ton of different shafts. Well, maybe I have.!!

 

Matrix red tie, Chrome Elements, Cooperhead and synergy black. The majority of the last 5 years has been Red Tied and Chrome. Did not have the others long at all.

 

Definitely less spin and launch than Matrix and Chrome. I would say 5-700 less spin.

 

Copperhead did not work for me at all. Counter balance and too soft. Hook machine for me.

 

Synergy Black launched a little higher than I wanted. Felt a little soft for me. Hard to explain that. Just not right.

 

Not sure I will get on the course with it this year. If I do it will next. If not next year. So, I can't give any on course results for me. I could hot draws with it. It's not my go to. I play straight to fade shots. Fades with this go long. Usually a fade will add spin and take distance. I didn't notice that at all.

 

If you are looking for a low spin one piece pice feeling shaft. I would recommend this one. Yes it's pricey but so far I see real improvement from what I had.

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> @"mizuno player" said:

> Had a chance to hit the Rogue White 130 today. It's in a 2016 M2 9.5

>

> It is as Toll has said. Smooth. Holy cow. For as stiff as it is you don't have to swing out of your shoes to make this shaft work either.

>

> Very much a one piece feel. If you're looking for something that has a hinge feel. This isn't the shaft.

>

> No data to prove anything in terms of spin etc...

> It was a steady 10-12 mph wind. The wind does not move the ball much at all. It must be as Toll has said Very low spin. Also not hard to hit relatively high either. Just move it up a little. Launches easy.

>

> I have not hit a ton of different shafts. Well, maybe I have.!!

>

> Matrix red tie, Chrome Elements, Cooperhead and synergy black. The majority of the last 5 years has been Red Tied and Chrome. Did not have the others long at all.

>

> Definitely less spin and launch than Matrix and Chrome. I would say 5-700 less spin.

>

> Copperhead did not work for me at all. Counter balance and too soft. Hook machine for me.

>

> Synergy Black launched a little higher than I wanted. Felt a little soft for me. Hard to explain that. Just not right.

>

> Not sure I will get on the course with it this year. If I do it will next. If not next year. So, I can't give any on course results for me. I could hot draws with it. It's not my go to. I play straight to fade shots. Fades with this go long. Usually a fade will add spin and take distance. I didn't notice that at all.

>

> If you are looking for a low spin one piece pice feeling shaft. I would recommend this one. Yes it's pricey but so far I see real improvement from what I had.

 

Thank you for the feedback. I love hitting that low spin 5 yard cut that just runs when it hits. Such a great product and so linear in terms of feel. It's always right there with no guessing how it's going to unload at the ball. So stable, so solid, but still smooth. I love it.

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      New Swag covers - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Jacob Bridgeman's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Bud Cauley's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Ryo Hisatsune's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Chris Kirk - new black Callaway Apex CB irons and a few Odyssey putters - 2024 Cognizant Classic
      Alejandro Tosti's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Cognizant Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Monday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #1
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #2
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #3
      2024 Genesis Invitational - Tuesday #4
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Rory McIlroy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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