WHHHHHAAAA? New Mizuno ST-200, ST-200G and ST-200X Drivers!

[skuyper]

Looks great. Worth a shot for a demo

[trhode]

I hate that these companies keep changing the shape of their weights! Unless you are going to release extra weights for purchase the same day the heads come out, stop changing them!!!!! As fitters, we are always changing them to get the desired feel.

 

Rant over...

[the bishop]

> @trhode said:

> I hate that these companies keep changing the shape of their weights! Unless you are going to release extra weights for purchase the same day the heads come out, stop changing them!!!!! As fitters, we are always changing them to get the desired feel.

>

> Rant over...

 

As rants go, that's reasonable...

[fullbodyfix]

> @Popeye64 said:

> I'm actually surprised how short of a cycle the 190 was. Loved it when I hit it.

 

Same. Surprised on the quick turnaround. But keeping an eye on this for sure.

 

[QuigleyDU]

I wonder what that little bit in the channel towards the toe is on the 200g?? Maybe a little fixed weight towards the toe to promote a fade?

[Hammer22]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> I wonder what that little bit in the channel towards the toe is on the 200g?? Maybe a little fixed weight towards the toe to promote a fade?

 

A support adjacent to the weight track.

[QuigleyDU]

> @Hammer22 said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > I wonder what that little bit in the channel towards the toe is on the 200g?? Maybe a little fixed weight towards the toe to promote a fade?

>

> A support adjacent to the weight track.

 

Good call.

[mrmikeac]

Just spoke with a very reliable insider, apparently Mizuno will be using a *Beta Titanium* in the face, of course it will be thinner faster and stronger than its predecessor. He explained to me that it will be very similar to what Exotics uses in their Fairway woods.

 

Sign me up!

[gsrjc]

Hope the demo heads are lighter for some places. I tried the 190 at club champion and the head felt so heavy. When they weighed it, it was like E something.

[Richsgbox]

> @gsrjc said:

> Hope the demo heads are lighter for some places. I tried the 190 at club champion and the head felt so heavy. When they weighed it, it was like E something.

 

I thought it was light. Could be the shafts. Believe they were around 196.

[gsrjc]

> @Richsgbox said:

> > @gsrjc said:

> > Hope the demo heads are lighter for some places. I tried the 190 at club champion and the head felt so heavy. When they weighed it, it was like E something.

>

> I thought it was light. Could be the shafts. Believe they were around 196.

 

Perhaps it was the club champion adaptor that made it heavier.

[Golf64]

Played the ST190 this year. Great club! If they improve it, going to be a home run!!

[EHolm]

> @sayashop said:

> Any info on tech...

 

Only thing i know is tht the X is going to be for slower speeds and help with launch. Kind of like TS1 for Titleist I guess.

 

Going to a Mizuno event next weekend. Really hoping they got these ready to try out

[shakey]

Had these in hand today. Both the 200 and 200G models look great. Didn't get to see the X model.

[GolfChannel]

I was surprised it was the regular 190 that ended up being better than the G. From what I know something they focused on was aerodynamics given how well it worked for the F9 to go with the new face. We won’t know till we hit them, but the 190 was really good.

[eastriver]

[bostonbrahmin]

Top looks identical to ST190 so looks like it'll be a performance game to decide a winner

[Woodie]

They reduced the Bulge and Roll on the ST200. And the ridge in the wave channel makes it sit less open.

Looks great! Much better at adress than the 190!

[mBiden2]

> @rchalpu98 said:

> I have never really tested any of their stuff. That will have to change next year. This looks good and so did last years product.

 

The 190 and 190G were both great. The performance of the 190 for the price and the fact that you could get a $250 up charge shaft for no extra charge was great. I will definitely be testing the 200 out for sure!

[EHolm]

Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

 

Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

 

Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

 

Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

[Richsgbox]

> @EHolm said:

> Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

>

> Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

>

> Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

>

> Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

 

Putters? Didn't see that coming. I'm glad they're introducing new hybrids. CLKs were definitely under-the-radar.

[noodle3872]

Pics of the putters have been posted on social media and in other Mizuno topics on here. They look sharp!

[Barracuda]

> @EHolm said:

> Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

>

> Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

>

> Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

>

> Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

 

Still no golf shoes?

[third-times-a-charm]

> @EHolm said:

> Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

>

> Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

>

> Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

>

> Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

 

Was the hybrid the CLK? Or a new model?

[EHolm]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> > @EHolm said:

> > Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

> >

> > Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

> >

> > Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

> >

> > Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

>

> Was the hybrid the CLK? Or a new model?

 

New model, still named CLK though

[third-times-a-charm]

> @EHolm said:

> > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > > @EHolm said:

> > > Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

> > >

> > > Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

> > >

> > > Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

> > >

> > > Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

> >

> > Was the hybrid the CLK? Or a new model?

>

> New model, still named CLK though

 

 

Gotcha. I loved my CLK but the finish on the face got ate up way too quick.

[EHolm]

> @third-times-a-charm said:

> > @EHolm said:

> > > @third-times-a-charm said:

> > > > @EHolm said:

> > > > Saw all the models, woods and hybrids today. The drivers were just sales sample so not able to hit them. However the 200G is superdeep, looks almost like a 430-440 at address. Going by looks alone it might be the winner in 2020, its also a touch more open to me than the standard. The X is more closed but then again its geared towards those higher hcps with slice problems so what else to expect?

> > > >

> > > > Hit the tour fairway and its killer! Same looks as 190 with slightly better feedback in my book. The hybrid however is the real surprise for me. I've tried and bought waaaaay to many hybrids than I care to admit in my life and i could never get them to work. This however just delivers, able to set up a perfect cut everytime so now my UDI is in trouble. Also comes with CK Pro, yes Pro, yes real deal, at no upcharge.

> > > >

> > > > Dont have any pics but it all looks great, even the headcovers.

> > > >

> > > > Also got a look at the putters, 100% milled, 3 shapes, all in 3 colors, all come with a weight kit included

> > >

> > > Was the hybrid the CLK? Or a new model?

> >

> > New model, still named CLK though

>

>

> Gotcha. I loved my CLK but the finish on the face got ate up way too quick.

 

Its similar, bit more of a compact shape and bit rounder leading edge. Longer wave channel as well. Still adjustable as well

[mrmikeac]

Fairways and Hybrids look solid!

 

 

 

[payerasjl]

any idea when fitters will be getting them?

[mBiden2]

I hope they offer the Ventus with these, considering the st190 came with the atmos black TS