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> @"Aviador Naval" said:

> > @"Aviador Naval" said:

> > Initial impression after first bucket from wet turf - wonder if I should have gotten the 6i in MB vice HMB. Will obviously give it more time this weekend but I found myself with a sense of deja vu from the JPX 919 Tour / Forged time. The supposedly ‘harder’ club isn’t and the supposedly easier club isn’t either

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> Strike two for the HMB 6i (cancelled the 5i - head on back order).

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> The ball flight, turf interaction etc from my MB 7i is great. Same with an old 716 T-MB 5i I took out today. Just not happy with the HMB turf interaction and a little thin seems dead whereas with the T-MB (and the MP20 MB 7i) a little thin is playable. Will give it one more range session and a round on the course but suspect an MB 6i is in my future.

 

Final post this subject. HMB 6i off probation. Made a slight set-up and ball position adjustment. Ball flight and dispersion much improved with a very nice gap from MB 7i.

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Looking for playing comparisons vs JPX919 Hot Metal Pro's. My miss is on the toe and the hmP's let me get away with some pretty bad strikes with that miss. I know if you've gotta ask you probably aren't ready for blades but I was surprised to see just how thick the hmB's are once I saw them in person.

 

 

 

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> @rondre3000 said:

> Looking for playing comparisons vs JPX919 Hot Metal Pro's. My miss is on the toe and the hmP's let me get away with some pretty bad strikes with that miss. I know if you've gotta ask you probably aren't ready for blades but I was surprised to see just how thick the hmB's are once I saw them in person.

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> @eastriver said:

> The HMBs are not blades, although they do look like them. They are hollow bodied and help with distance and launch as well as being more forgiving than blades or muscle backs on off center strikes.

 

But...but...but...it’s in their name they are called Hot Metal Blades. What’s next? You gonna tell us there’s no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny!

 

All kidding aside, much like the P790, i500 and so on, the bladed look makes this style of club so appealing to so many players. They look so sweet yet the game improvement trickery is hidden inside.

 

 

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> @noodle3872 said:

> But...but...but...it’s in their name they are called Hot Metal Blades. What’s next? You gonna tell us there’s no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny!

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> All kidding aside, much like the P790, i500 and so on, the bladed look makes this style of club so appealing to so many players. They look so sweet yet the game improvement trickery is hidden inside.

 

Absolutely. When the i500s came out I thought they looked just right for me. Played the last 2 months of the season with the HMBs and couldn't be happier. Now I've just got to deal with some user error and I'm on my way.

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I tend to miss on the toe and frankly I’ve been astounded at the forgiveness level of both the HMB and MB on that miss.

 

Now the caveat here is I think this experience is highly dependent on the impact conditions a player produces. I think of a player is holding off the club face at impact the better the GI/SGI type weight helps. If the player is actively rotating the face closed at impact with a reasonably stout shaft, I think the gap between a forgiving MB or the HMB or a SGI type iron becomes smaller.

 

That’s been my experience anyways.

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First impressions not off grass... they are easier to hit then the JPX EZ Forged I came from. The 3i is going to make me never game a 5W. I didn’t really notice a top line difference between the MMC transition point but it wasn’t exactly bright in there.

 

They feel longer, literally the club length feels longer then my old clubs, did Mizuno increase standard length? Either way I’m loving the feel of the club (3-6 HMB) My southern winter trip can’t come soon enough!

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they are like having mini hybrids through the iron set in the bag. game changer. i am a "pure" blade guy but it is time to change. Joining you guys in a few days lol

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don't know yet. Getting heads in this weekend. i have the LZ 6.0 i am considering also. Love the feel of the 120s but the performance of the LZ is hard to ignore. Very accurate in other heads.

I tested the long irons at at golf store. they had c -tapers. not my favourite shafts but even that was easy to elevate. I think i will go with the modus.seeing as the heads have distance built in. the LZ adds more distance than the 120x even though the 120x feels better. feel is favoured.

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@Man_O_War thanks. I have the same experience as you. I currently have the LZ 6.0 which feels great and flies long, but can go a little left when pushed. I recently tested the Modus 120 stiff in a Srixon head (785s I think) and they were very consistent and straight. I don't have an overly late release, around 88-90 with a 7 iron. Hard for me to get the irons with the Modus shaft to hit off grass.

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guys i don't really know what to say, other than to thank you all for the detailed reviews. Having always played bladess, i wanted nothing to do with cavity backs. They did not suit my game..now the HMBs..I don't think i have ever felt a club that felt so sweet through the bag from 4 -pw. They are a delight to use. I found myself reminding myself to hit through the set. I could not put the 9 iron down. Half a bucket later, i went through the set and for a former blade player for over 30 years, i am converted. The technology works and rewards good swings with love, kindness, affection. Bad swings get a like. Mizuno, a big thank you. I won't even bother trying the MP20s blades. I actually love the short irons even more than the long irons which are stupid easy to hit. I have been a +1 before. Not sure where my handicap is now, i don't keep score officially, but a good ball striker would look great with these..maybe this is how the perimeter weighted irons have always felt, I don't know. I am ecstatic with these. They go high, but not as high as i thought they would with Modus 120x ss1. Strong flight and high.

Probably seeing about 7 yards per club over my previous set but the ease of use means.. watch out flags...I will be flagging you down. Highly recommended

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i am finding that the HMBs do not like steep swings...shallow strikes are heavenly.

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Anyone having an issue with these spinning too much? Did you have to make a shaft change? I hit the 7 iron about 100 balls on 2 different occasions and was getting great numbers but the 9 iron was getting up close to 9500 rpm on the monitor I played in today. Just seeing what you guys have done if anything.

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i agree. they do spin a quite a bit when you hit down like regular irons. Not when you sweep. pretty flat and low spin. Goes high but not balloon. Your shafts also spin a bit. 120 stiff will spin

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Has anyone compared the HMB 2i/3i to any of the other modern driving irons? Curious about ball speeds and distance.

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