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What are some of the best feeling irons?

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

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My new Titleist 620 CB&MB's are not only beautiful looking but smooth as butter. The problem is they look so good I don't want to get them dirty.

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Mizuno is hard to beat. Much softer than any Titleist I’ve ever gamed. As far as cast, it’s almost impossible to beat i210. They’re softer than my old 718AP2.

Ping G430 MAX 10K 9*, Ventus Black 6X
Ping G430 MAX 3W 15*, Ventus TR Red 7X
Ping G430 Hybrid 19*, Ventus Blue HB 9X  /or/  Titleist TSR2 7W 21*, Tensei Black 75X

Ping i230 4i DG 120 S300

Ping Blueprint S, 5-PW DG 120 S300

Titleist Vokey SM9 50F, 54S, 58M

Odyssey Ai-One Jailbird Mini CH /or/ Tri Hot 5K Seven CH

 


 

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Raw Callaway apex mb, so good

Callaway triple Diamond paradym 9*- hulk 60tx 

Callaway paradym triple diamond - hulk 70tx 

Titleist TSi3 20* hybrid Matrix Black Tie 90x 
Srixon zx7mkii 456 / ZForgedii 789P- MMT 125tx 
Cleveland RTX6 50/54/ S400 TI Onyx 
Vokey Wedgeworks 60* V-grind 
Tri-hot double wide 
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This. I’d add in Apex MB as well. 785 are the very satisfying and soft. MP 20, 5, 4 and then a ton of older models are the softest irons you’ll ever hit. Overall feel as to go to Srixon though. The 1020 Endo forged carbon steel plus v sole is just unfair.

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I've found that for me... of the latest offerings, MP20's Apex Pro 19 and P760 have been the "softest" feel. However, I feel the reason the 760s and ap19's are "soft" is more down to sound, because they don't offer the feedback that the MP20's do, or other bladed type irons that I've hit in the past.

 

For all time soft... MP-54 is right up there for me.

 

 

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I have some mid "80's" original Snake Eye 1018 Carbon steel wedges by Ernie Vadersen, you talk about buttery soft. I love those wedges and nothing today is comparable. At the time I bought four sets of 4 wedges cause I knew they would wear fast and did. They lasted till 2011.

There is no problem with 1018 and 1020 or 1025. Lucky for Pros' they get free replacement clubs when desired. Average amature Joe, on the other hand, faces wear issues and maybe buys another set of clubs sooner than expected. Of course, decent ball striking skill is the influential factor as to how long they last.

Anyhow, Butter is all about carbon content, hardness and using the sweet spot. I have come or prefer 1020 or 1025 club heads like in my 620 MB & CB's. It's a tad harder with more carbon but still provides good feedback to my hands. One man's love of cooking with butter is another man's Crisco. It's time.

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Cost aside, not one to buy for display. I use everything including pretty tools.

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The answer is completely personal and compounded by type of ball you play and shaft.

 

Best feeling iron I’ve ever played was Ping i3+ Blade with original Rifle shaft (with premium balls). Recently demoed some i210s with multiple shafts given the rave reviews and they were terrible (with range balls). Suspected it was a defective demo head so hit a ‘real’ club. No better (can’t remember shaft).

 

Mizuno MP20 feels fantastic with any shaft or ball out to a reasonable miss. Mizuno MP60 felt great dead center but was complete a$$ with any shaft or ball and even the slightest miss.

 

Titleist feel great with heavy or tip soft shafts. They don’t feel great with light shafts and feel awful with light tip stiff shafts.

 

I lived in Japan for a while and bought a Vokey forged wedge. Didn’t feel as good as his cast wedges. BTW, his forged wedges aren’t actually very popular there...

 

Bought a Byron Morgan putter once. Exquisite craftsmanship. Worst feeling putter ever - even with Pro V1 or Z-Star.

 

BL - there are no absolutes.

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TS2 16.5 & 21

G425 22 & 26

ZX7 6i - PW

Vokey 54F-14, 58K-12

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Anything forged by Endo and Kyogi forging houses. Mizuno (forged at Chou) are soft also but not better than the first two. 1020 carbon steel is the way to get soft forgings but it is borderline too soft to not deform (going out of spec) too easily. Many soft forgings use 1025.

My Maxfli A10 tour cast with nickel are some of the softest irons I have ever hit.

I still have an old set of Dynacast ping eye 2 knockoffs, (they were copied by virtually every company back ion the day) which are cast from 302 stainless and they are soft as butter as well.

It's the type of metal used not the forging that matters.

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Hard to beat Mizuno, Srixon and Bridgestone without needing to go JDM. I played Mizuno for a long time and have recently converted to bridgestone tour b. The bridgestones feel incredibly soft. The sole designs of both Srixon and Bridgestone set them apart in my opinion.

Mizuno   STZ 230 9.5*   Tensei Raw White 65x

Taylormade   Tour Issue Stealth  3 HL Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5

Taylormade   Stealth+ 5w   Diamana OG Kai’Li 70x  

Wilson   Staff CB 7-P / D9 Forged 5-6  Modus 120x

Vokey   Sm8 50, Sm10 54s bent to 55, Sm10 60s all custom ground 

Bettinardi  Custom BB46

Srixon Z Star 💎  OR   Bridgestone Tour B X 

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