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> @wreckinmachine said:

> > @jerryo said:

> > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > @jerryo said:

> > > > What would the rtx4 equivalent be to a vokey sm6 58 k grind? I think it has 12* of bounce. Thanks.

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> > > The closest would be the full but it’s still different. You’d have to test on real turf to see if it works for you.

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> > Yes, will have to give them a try. Went to the shop to check them out and the 4s look and feel fantastic. For you guys playing the raw finish, are stripping the gold coating upon purchase ?

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> It is raw, but I am assuming you want the bronze finish off sooner than letting it wear off naturally during play. Soak it in white vinegar. It should come off pretty easily.

 

Yes, exactly. Thanks for the suggestion of white vinegar.

Rogue ST MAX 10.5 Kbs TD 50

Ping 425 fwy 17* Alta 

Ping 425 hyb 22* Alta

Srixon ZX5/7 KBS Tour 110

Vega vw-06 52 58

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I've been using the 52* bent to 53*, and the 56* bent to 58* all year the entire season. Both of them are the MID options, with the 52* being chrome and the 56* being the raw finish, and I see no reason to change. They're very reliable and the spin is great for me. I did have the 58* mid before getting the 56* and bending it week. I had issues digging with it, and the 56* bent weak fixed that for me. I can still open it up and hit high shots off of tight lies if need be. I'm probably going to order 1 more 52* (this time in raw vs. chrome) and 2 more 56* mid before Christmas. I really like them, and don't want to try and find another wedge that works for me for a while.

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Driver: 10.5* Stealth 2 Plus set 1 click lower upright setting- Accra FX 2.0 270 M4 

Fairways & Hybrids: TM Stealth2 Plus 5 wood turned down to 17.25* (Motore F1 7s); 21* Callaway UW (Attas T2 8S); Adams Super 9031 23* (Recoil Prototype Utility 110 F4)
Irons: 5-PW Srixon ZX7 MKII (KBS 120 $ Taper)
Wedges: Tour Satin Cleveland RTX6 48* Mid bent to 49* and 52* bent to 54*;  RTX Zipcore Tour Rack Raw 56* Mid bent to 58* (All wedges with DGTI s400 shafts)

Putter: Toulon Las Vegas h4.5 or Kingston KP1 Carbon Oil Can (both with Stability Tour Black shafts)

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Anyone own the black finish? Does it wear off or can I dip it in coke/vinegar to get it to raw finish?

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

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I struggled with the RTX4 58* mid as well, constantly digging. I didn't feel there was enough heel relief in the grind. At first I thought the s400 was a little too heavy, but I went to a DG 115 and still struggled.

Replaced it wit a Vokey Jet Black SM7 58 M grind and no more issues wit digging.

Don't seem to have the problem with the RTX4 54 mid, but with the Vokeys marked down, I picked up a SM7 54M to try as well.

Rogue ST Max LS Oban Devotion 6/03 10.5, -1* @45.25" 

Paradym 3HL  Kai’li 60 R
Ping G410 19*,  22* & 26* Riptide CB 80 5.5
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-AW, SF i80cw R,  Or Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW, SF i95cw R   
PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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FYI, it looks like they've been marked down, so maybe a replacement on the way....

Rogue ST Max LS Oban Devotion 6/03 10.5, -1* @45.25" 

Paradym 3HL  Kai’li 60 R
Ping G410 19*,  22* & 26* Riptide CB 80 5.5
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-AW, SF i80cw R,  Or Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW, SF i95cw R   
PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

Bettinardi Innovai Rev 6.0  33” 

 E.R.C. Soft TT/ Chrome Soft TT / TM Tour Response '20

 

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Have been using the RTX4's raw 54 mid bounce 60 low bounce since summer (June) and changed from TM HI-Toe.

Fact i could put modus 120 Shaft in at no upcharge was massive for me as such a preference and have them bent 1* flat , my standard irons are 1* upright so i find this helps for the range of shots i may play with the wedges.

Firstly for me they have been very confidence inspiring and i love the classic look , perhaps the TM i felt in my head although good were a bit gimicky ? (who knows alot of that is between the ears ) but deffo feel the 4's have been a worthy investment.

The 60 low bounce not as forgiving in the wet soft conditions for me but through summer months it was great for me , our course is only a par 66 lots of short tough holes and its helped improve my up and downs noticeably this year.

 

Wear has been good too even in the raw they are just starting to patina in areas adding to the look. The weight i feel is spot on didnt like the RTX 3 it felt clunky to me but worth trying out if you can but they get a thumbs up from me.

 

Hope this helps

 

D- Ping G410 SFT - Oban Iwasa 04 

3Wd - Ping G425 SFT - Ping Tour Stiff 

4# Srixon ZX5 Tour AD DI 95 Stiff

5+6# Srixon ZX5 - MMT 105 S

7-PW# Srixon ZX7 - MMT 105 S

50 - Vokey SM8

56 - TM MG3 Tiger Spec

P- Betti Queen B #12

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i would say X-Low would match up to L grind and the Low would be the M. I find the Low 58 to be quite versatile, don’t feel like I need the X Low. YMMV.

Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5 w/Diamana TB 60S

PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

Fourteen RM-12 58 w/Dynamic Golds400

Axis1 Rose putter, 34 inches

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They do, buy a 52 with 10 degrees of bounce and bend it to 54. If you need more than 2 additional degrees of bounce, special order a 50 and have them bend it to 54.

 

Driver: Titleist Tsi3 w/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow TX 6.0 
3 Wood: Cobra King Speedzone/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 70

5 Wood: Callaway Mavrik Subzero/Aldila Rogue White 70
Long Irons (4-6): Wilson D7 Forged/DG120TI
Short Irons (7-P): Wilson Staff Model Blade/DG120TI

Wedges (50/54/58): Callaway Jaws MD5 w/TI S200
Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
Ball: Titleist Left Dash

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I do this all the time to get the loft/bounce I want. Works great. Not hard at all to add 2 degrees of bounce to any wedge and it won’t hurt the playability.

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Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5 w/Diamana TB 60S

PXG GEN6 5 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

Fourteen RM-12 58 w/Dynamic Golds400

Axis1 Rose putter, 34 inches

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I have the raw in 52 and 58 degree. I love mine. Both of mine are the mid bounce. That's what I've always played. And admittedly I can't speak on every brand. Wedges tend to stay in my bag until they're worn out. I played Cleveland wedges for years, then went to Vokeys. Had one set of Mizunos several years ago, but went back to Vokeys. I got these a few months ago and I love everything about them. I definitely haven't had any digging problems. Actually I think the turf interaction is perfect although I don't get very steep with wedges so I really haven't had digging problems with any wedges. If I do, I know before I even made contact it was me, not the wedge. I love the shape and I personally think the TI S400 is fantastic for wedges. Wish I'd thought of that years ago. And out of the sand I've found it to be brilliant. Frankly I find them superior to my last set of Vokeys (Sm6) in every way.

Callaway Epic Max LS 9* MMT 70S

Callaway Epic Speed 15* MMT 80S

Mizuno CLK 19* Tensei 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal 4 iron MMT 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 5-GW DG 105 S
Titleist SM8 Black 52*,58* TT S200
L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1
Pro V1

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KGeorge, no more vokeys???

2024 WITB: 

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 (@ 9.5) Diamana ZF 60S

TM MINI DRIVER??

Callaway Apex UW 19 deg MMT 70 Stiff

TaylorMade Qi10 Tour Rescue #4 AV Limited Blue 75 Stiff

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-PW Project X IO 5.5

Vokey SM10 48F, 56M, ??

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

 

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I have the 50 head only in Raw and debating if I want to go with Chrome Satin to match my 54 and 58. Hindsight, don't buy on impulse. LOL

Driver: Ping G400 Max 10.5 Stock Alta (need shaft fitting)
Fairway Wood: Ryoma F5
Hybrid: TaylorMade M6 4H & 6H
Irons: OnOff Kuro 2015 6 - PW
Wedge: Cleveland RTX4 50, 54 and 58
Putter: S.C. GoLo 3
Ball: TaylorMade TP5X
Club hoe, builder, fitter and tester as hobbyist since 1993

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Is the v grind rtx 4 similar to the vokey v grind?

2024 WITB: 

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 (@ 9.5) Diamana ZF 60S

TM MINI DRIVER??

Callaway Apex UW 19 deg MMT 70 Stiff

TaylorMade Qi10 Tour Rescue #4 AV Limited Blue 75 Stiff

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-PW Project X IO 5.5

Vokey SM10 48F, 56M, ??

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

 

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I recently made the switch to the RTX 4 50 54 58 in Satin Black. My friend was telling me that there are different feels when it comes to the 3 finishes that Cleveland offers. I am just curious since I have that PGA Tour Superstore 90 day playability, is there really a difference? My last set of wedges were the tour chrome SM6 and they aged pretty well for 1.5 years. I guess I am looking for which RTX 4 finish would produce the softest feel. Black finish is pretty soft but havent had the chance to try out the tour raw or the tour satin chrome. Thanks for the input everyone! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

Driver: Titleist TSr3 10 Degree Fujikura Ventus TR Red VeloCore 6x D4/T1 setting (RH)

3 Wood: Titleist TSr3 16.5 Fujikura Ventus TR Red VeloCore 7x C1/T2 setting (RH)

7 Wood/4 Hybrid: Titleist TSr2 21 Fujikura Ventus TR Red VeloCore 8x C1 setting/Titleist TSr3 21 Fujikura Ventus Blue VeloCore 9x B1/Neutral setting (RH) 

Irons: Titleist Black T200 4-5/T100 6-P True Temper AMT White Onyx S300 (RH)

Wedges: Titleist Black T100 50 degree True Temper AMT White S300, Titleist SM9 Premium Jet Black 54/12D, 58/8M BGT ZNE 130 (RH)

Putter: Bettinardi Wizard Inovai 8.0 with Black Tour Stability Shaft (RH)

Ball: Titleist ProV1x Yellow

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