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Anyone have any overall comparison? Imagine what matters is comparing certain models (and having your shafts/set up correct).

 

I played blades for 35 years...then moved to my first forged cavity back 3 years ago, Mizuno MP 25. I love my Miura wedges.

 

Thinking about a new set of irons (forged cavity back) and had been considering Miura (1008, do continued) and thought I'd consider the Epon Tour CB.

 

Feedback, LOVE to hear. Thanks!

TM M2 driver (2016)
TM M2 3 and 5 woods (2017)
PXG 19 degree
Mizuno MP 25, 4-9 (about to change)
Miura CB-57 PW
Miura wedges, 53 and 59, Y grind
1964/5 Wilson 8813

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I loved the performance of my Epon Tour CBs but couldn't get used to the bulky head and too much offset, slight too wide of sole. I switched to Miura small blades and noticed the often stated solid louder sound of miura. I love the weight of my Miura set, just wish the sole had a little more bounce and with the blunted leading edge of the Epon.

I'd recommend seeing the whole set and hitting as many of them as possible before a pricey investment.

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EPON have HUGE gooseneck/offset in all of their irons PERIOD.

the only set that isn't a shovel is the ORIGINAL af tour . even the 302 is big , I cud never get on with them, loved the design and feel but the head was a hookmachine.

 

The newer EPONS look like roller coaster in the neck, I almost threw up day glow looking at them in horror at what they did to a set of supposed MB.

 

miura arnt much better in the soring irons either . plus they are very square. of course if u like that shape, go it.

as for feel theres a difference, miura are a more dense solid feel and epon are as soft as they come by a mile.

look at the mizuno and prgr range from a cpl of yrs ago, tr500 and IDBL especially if u want less offset than both above.

 

or old Yamaha tour models form 2008/2011

 

honma arnt too bad either , less offset than the majority.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You need to try these beauties. Super soft and easy to hit for.me.

 

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4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
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I don’t find Miuras soft. They feel great — a dense feeling and powerful — while Epons are much more of a soft feeling. The Epon AF Tour and Tour CB’s have the least offset of the Epon heads and they blend it really well. Great irons. More forgiving than Miuras IMO. My favorite Miura is the CB57. One of the great cavity back irons. I don’t really prefer one over the other, they’re a very different feel.

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Miuras are a more solid/dense feel. I have a set of cb1008 heads I’m looking to unload. If you have any interest shoot me a DM.

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If you’re able to hit them first I would recommend it.

If you’re offset sensitive Miura may be better. It’s not nearly as bad as Tsupo says but it’s there. I actually prefer the larger head size on a forged cavity back.

 

As far as feel goes; I honestly believe feel is mistaken for sound of impact most of the time. It is more related to the ball compression you use. Range rock vs. Wilson Duo kind of thing.

 

My two cents.

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> @Zengolfer36 said:

> Other than the grind, theres little difference, IMO. Miura heads are forged by Endo and Epon is Endo's house brand. The difference is Miura's grinding and whether or not you believe in the Miura brand image.

 

This is mistaken. Miura has a proud history of forging its irons and the two companies have different processes. Epon is the Endo house brand and produces heads for other OEMs, but not for Miura.

 

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Yamaha RMX VD 7 wood w/Diamana S-plus 70 stiff

Callaway Mavrik Pro hybrid (22) w/Aldila Tour Blue 85 stiff hybrid

Wilson Staff Model CB 5-G w/DG s300 shafts

Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

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> @Zengolfer36 said:

> Other than the grind, theres little difference, IMO. Miura heads are forged by Endo and Epon is Endo's house brand. The difference is Miura's grinding and whether or not you believe in the Miura brand image.

 

Woooaaahhh there, where did that come from?

 

Driver: still looking.....
4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
Wedges: Callaway Jaws Forged 50°/55°/60° + KBS C-Taper
Putter: SeeMore SB1 + Accra FX300.

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> @ian-500 said:

> You need to try these beauties. Super soft and easy to hit for.me.

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Anyway just look at that PW! Love them.

 

Driver: still looking.....
4 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 17.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW70x @ 42 1/2".

7 Wood: Kamui Pro TP-XF 22.5° + Fujikura Speeder Evolution VI FW80x @ 41 3/4".
Irons: Kamui Pro KP-102 5i-PW + KBS TGI 110 + 1/2".
Wedges: Callaway Jaws Forged 50°/55°/60° + KBS C-Taper
Putter: SeeMore SB1 + Accra FX300.

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> @tsupo said:

> not In this lifetime they don't!

> where on earth wud you have heard that , id give that fella that sold u that dump an upper cut if I were you !

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LOL yeah cheap effort to discount the Miura brand. Forging isn't some lost art, but they do it themselves, and can quality control the process themselves. Japanese products have always been great because their quality standards are much tighter than anywhere else in the world. Of course, it doesn't mean you'll play better or worse, but their stuff is going to be closer weight, loft wise compared to say the american clubs forged in China and assembled in Thailand.

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Vote for Miura!

 

I describe them as super smooth and precise.

The blades 001, tourney, 101 etc are beautiful.

The steel they use to use and the smooth finish they used to give them . Was down right perfect.

I’m reminded of the quote “If you came up against god with a hatori hanzo blade. Then god would be cut!” (Or something like that.) that’s my description of Miura blades.

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Honestly, I have tried miruas, epons, but would recommend you give your current mizuno mp25s a shot as well! I sold mine a few yrs back and have always regretted it - moved on to a set of Epon personals then Miura MBs. Between the 2, the Epons are sexier but have a soft spot for Miura due to the buttery feel. Really need to hold them and try them to see which you prefer.

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Years back I was fixated on getting a set of Miuras. Fitter hands me an Epon 502 iron and I was blown away. For me it was night/day difference with Miuras having very little feel for me while the Epons were beyond soft.

Longest I’ve ever stayed with a set of irons because they were just that accurate both in terms of dispersion and distance. Just recently bought a set of black 705’s and also love em.

it’s a personal choice. You need to hit each one side by side.

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