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For the hybrid players, my new hybrid gets me the numbers I want most of the time. However, I have a very fast tempo so sometimes if I swing that way with the hybrid it’s hook city. Anyone else have to alter their swing for that one club?

I feel like I have to just swing slow to get it to work. It works when I do, but I wish I didn’t have to alter anything in my swing to do so.

I use a Atmos Blue 80 TS, which gives me the launch and spin I want. Most of the time the club flies high with a baby draw at the very apex of the ball flight.

Driver: Titleist Tsi3 w/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow TX 6.0 
3 Wood: Cobra King Speedzone/HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 70

5 Wood: Callaway Mavrik Subzero/Aldila Rogue White 70
Long Irons (4-6): Wilson D7 Forged/DG120TI
Short Irons (7-P): Wilson Staff Model Blade/DG120TI

Wedges (50/54/58): Callaway Jaws MD5 w/TI S200
Putter: Original Odyssey White Hot XG No. 7
Ball: Titleist Left Dash

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I found the same with a hybrid. Swinging slower mentally for me with the hybrid especially on windy days was disastrous for me. I found that shortening the shaft and changing the loft settings helped with overcooking the 5W. I can swing as hard as I want with it and seems to go bullet straight.

PING G430 LST 10.5° | DIAMANA GT 60X

COBRA DARKSPEED X 3HF 16.5° | HZRDUS BLACK 70X

PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

ODYSSEY TRI-HOT 5K SEVEN DB

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As a fellow Canuck, I totally understand

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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I'm going to split the difference and go with a Callaway Super Hybrid in the 19°-22° range to fit between my 15° fairway wood and 22° driving iron.

You really have to look at that spot in the bag and know (through good record keeping) exactly what job(s) you are asking it to do most often, and most effectively. For instance, I moved to a DI in that spot in the bag because I knew through my stat keeping that I hit that yardage club 3x more often off the tee than off the turf and I knew that I liked looking down at an iron vs. a hybrid/wood for comfort off the tee and I knew I possessed the clubhead speed to play that club effectively. Now, after a solid year of stat keeping, I can tell you that I am just as "effective" off the tee with my fairway wood vs. my driving iron (strokes gained-wise), so there actually isn't a comfort factor looking down at an iron shaped head and it doesn't actually "help" me. I also can look at my SG approach and see that I lose far more strokes hitting approach shots with my driving iron than with my fairway wood, so again, the driving iron isn't that effective for me as an "off the turf" club.

Enter the Super Hybrid. It's shorter and heavier, two things I prefer as a rule. It's also low spinning and forgiving, also two things that I'd like at this spot in the bag. Hopefully, it is the best compromise, or "hybrid," of all of the things that I need. I'll let you know after I have some good data!

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AI Smoke TD 8° w/shaft TBD

Big Bertha 815 Alpha 14° w/Voodoo VS

'24 Apex UW 19° w/Rogue Silver

'16 Apex Hybrid 23° w/DG 
'24 Apex CB 5-7; '24 Apex MB 8-11 w/DG

MD2 55° + PM 1.0 58° w/DG
Odyssey White Hot 2 Ball Frankenstein (Fowler style)
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I went with the 5 wood option. I find it easier to control the height of my shots. With my current 3H....I have a tough time trying to hit mid, piercing trajectory.

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[size=3][font=comic sans ms,cursive]driver - Titleist 915 D3 10.5[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=comic sans ms,cursive]fairway - Ping I25 18 degree 5 wood
hybrid - Ben Hogan VKTR 19 & 23
Irons - Mizuno MP68 3-PW
wedges Mizuno MP-T5 50-58
putter - Ping Sigma G Doon[/font][/size]

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I've use a 3h, have used a TMB 2i, UDI 2, P790 3 iron and a 5 wood, all w graphite shafts. My heart wants the irons. My brain says hybrid. The 5 wood was the best from the fairway. High straight, but could balloon. Hybrid was most versatile. Rough, fairway, low and high flights, shape both directions

Epic Max LS 9* Ventus Black 6s / Cobra Radspeed 9* Tensei 1K 6x

Epic Flash 15* / Tour AD TP 7x and DI 7x

Sim Max 19* / DI 8x

Srixon Zx7 4-P

Ping Glide Stealth 52 (bent to 51)

SM6 - 56/10 (bent to 55/9)

Tour Issue LB Hi Toe 60*

Spider Plumber's Neck

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Both! I've got a 5W set at 17* and a 3H set at 20*. In my hands a 5W and 3H do not go the same distance so are not redundant.

Titleist TSR3 Driver
Callaway Paradym Super Hybrid 2
Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 3i

Mizuno Pro 243 4i-PW
Mizuno T22 48*, 54*, 60*
Byron Morgan 615

Callaway Chrome Tour

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Hit both for a while & see if there's enough overlap to dump one of them.

Personally I don't hit my woods all that well from tight lies and can hit my hybrid from almost any situation from tee to green. That functionality alone made me dump the wood for another, lower lofted, hybrid.

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Titleist TSR2 9* - Ventus TR Red 6X

Titleist TS3 4W 16.5* - T1100 Evenflow White 6.5

W/S UT 20* - HZRDUS Black RDX 6.0

Callaway Apex '19 4-PW - PX Rifle 6.0

Vokey SM9 49* - PX Rifle 6.0

Vokey SM8 54/58 - PX Rifle 6.0

SINK 1992 Custom

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check out G410 5 wood. Never been good at hitting FW off the deck until I was introduced to this club. Cut down to 41.75”, wow!!!

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Paradym Ai Smoke Max Tensei Blue 1K 60S

Paradym Ai Smoke 24* Tensei Pro 1K 70S

Mizuno 223 Pro  Modus 105S

Callaway JAWS RAW Modus 115W
Mizuno M Craft VI

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For those guys that are saying hybrid over 5W.....Do you usually hit your 3W well? Ive never got along with hybrids but hit my woods well hence the 5W

PING G430 LST 10.5° | DIAMANA GT 60X

COBRA DARKSPEED X 3HF 16.5° | HZRDUS BLACK 70X

PING G425 7W 20.5° | DIAMANA GT 70X

SRIXON ZX5 5-6 | MMT TAPER 105TX

SRIXON ZX7 7-PW | MMT TAPER 105TX

PING GLIDE 4.0 50°/54°/58° | MMT WEDGE 125TX

ODYSSEY TRI-HOT 5K SEVEN DB

SRIXON Z-STAR DIAMOND 

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I strike 3 woods and 5 woods very well, long and relatively straight. But, I am interested in hybrids on the chance that they may provide more precisely accurate shots than fairway woods.

Cleveland TL310 10.5* driver

Cleveland HB Launcher 15* 3-wood

Srixon H65  19* 3 hybrid and 22* 4 hybrid

Mizuno MP63 5 thru 9-iron

Cleveland RTX 48-52-56-64 wedges

Scotty Cameron Classic III putter

 

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Prefer the higher launch of a 5-wood. I have a Rocketballz Stage 2 21° and a SLDR S 19°. Got these after it turned too cold to play.

TaylorMade

  • Qi10 Max 10.5° | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 5-R
  • Qi10 Max Fairway 5 | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue FW 6-R
  • Stealth 2 Rescue 5 | Fujikura Ventus TR Red HB 6-R
  • Qi 6-A | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6-R

Maltby

  • TSW 54/10, 58/6 | Score LT R

Scotty Cameron

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This thread has really opened my eyes. I'm very fascinated with the sexwood idea. I only use my 3W maybe once a round. I initially wanted it for off the tee when I needed to lay back off the driver, but as the summer progressed I found myself reaching for my more predicable hybrid. I would only hit that 3W off the deck on a perfect lie, pretty much making it useless most of the time. I previously had a 5W but the distance between that and my hybrid were marginal and again, never used the 5W as a result. I'm wondering if I'd like a 3 wood head in a shorter shaft that would still give me some confidence off the deck and more length than my hybrid. It would be nice to know that from 240-260 out, I'd at least have confidence to go for it. Right now, unless it's a perfect lie for my 3W, I always lay up.

DR: Mavrik SZ - Tour AD XC 7S
5W: Mavrik SZ - Tour AD XC 8S
3H: Titleist 816 H2 - Speeder 8.8X
Irons (4-P): Mizuno MP-20 MMC - KBS $ X
Wedges (50,54,58): Mizuno T20 Raw - KBS $ X
Putter: Seemore Nashville
Ball: 2021 Pro V1

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I found the 5W ball flight too high, and ballooning into the wind, so am swapping it out for a 2H for next season. I'm hoping to use it off the tee on shorter holes, and 2nd shots into par 5's.

Srixon Z545 8.5° - Attas 11 7S
Honma TW747 3HL (16.5°) - Tour AD-IZ 7S

Honma TW747 7 wood - Attas 5 GoGo 7S

Honma TW-X 3 iron - Vizzard 85S (alternates with LW)

4-PW 2015 OnOff Forged Kuro - AMT Tour White X100 SSx2

50°-08 - Fourteen RM-4 - AMT X100
56°-10 - Fourteen RM-4 H grind - AMT X100
64°-10 - Callaway Jaws Full Toe Black - Dynamic Gold Spinner (alternates with 3 iron)

Scotty Cameron Oil Can Newport (1998) - KBS GPS, P2 Aware Tour

Grips - Star Sidewinder 360

Maxfli Tour Yellow

Vessel Player III - Iridium

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These. They never sold them retail. They were tour issue. But they can be found on ebay from time to time. I got these when Adams was still in business. They were in Plano and I live in Frisco. I went to a fitting and didn't know they existed until they showed them to me. It's a peanut version of the Super LS. Smaller head design. Titanium face. Anti-hook and frankly forgiving for their size and I'd say they are above average in distance compared to the current hybrids. Mid trajectory. I got the 18* bent to 17 and the 3 is 20*. The regular Super LS was also awesome. I have a 17* in that as well that I swap in if I'm going to a course where I'll be using a hybrid off the tee on several holes. It's right between hybrid and fairway wood size so it's very forgiving. Truthfully no one could convince me anyone's been able to make a better hybrid since. LSP or LS. Trust me I've tried a few and not only can they not kick the Adams out of the bag they simply aren't as good. At the time they made these, Adams was by far the leader in hybrid technology and I feel like the technology hasn't changed at all since then. I mean TM bought them simply to take the slot technology and not get sued. And years later their hybrids still aren't as good as these Adams.

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Callaway Epic Max LS 9* MMT 70S

Callaway Epic Speed 15* MMT 80S

Mizuno CLK 19* Tensei 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal 4 iron MMT 80S

Mizuno Hot Metal Pro 5-GW DG 105 S
Titleist SM8 Black 52*,58* TT S200
L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1
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