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Please take these comments with a grain of salt - they are not intended to slight your thoughts in anyway.

Have you checked your current setup on a launch monitor to confirm what you are seeing? I have played the Rouge Silver for a few years and it is a pretty low launching shaft. At 95-97SS and smooth tempo, you might not be able to load the black or the yellow as they are quite stout and more for higher swing speeds or hard transition players. Have you tried lowering the loft on your current driver? The head loft should do quite a bit more to help launch conditions than a shaft change. If you are at a low loft already, do you think you might be flipping your hands at impact, thus adding loft to the driver? Do you think you launch all your other clubs high also?

A change in shaft from the silver into either of these might provide a very small difference in launch, given everything else being the same. To really reduce height it is more important to check swing data and driver loft on a launch monitor.

Hope this helps!! Good Luck in your search.

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> @jimbo_hookem said:

> I really don't want to lower the loft because that opens the face a little.

So you would rather go shaft hunting to try and fix your loft problem? Honestly try adjusting loft first. You can always grip slightly stronger if slicing/pushes becomes more pronounced. I’m worried your gonna spend a lot of money changing out shafts with minimal help in your primary problem here.

 

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> @jimbo_hookem said:

> I really don't want to lower the loft because that opens the face a little.

 

Then get a driver head that launches the ball lower. All else equal the rogue is a relatively stiff tipped shaft and going hzrdus probably won't do much for you.

 

If you're in something very "forgiving" like a Ping G, then move to an M1. If you're in something like an M1 then loft down and move to an upright setting if possible.

 

If you're in an M1, already lofting down and upright, then it's something within the swing adding too much loft dynamically. The shaft could be contributing to this but there is no hard and fast rules as to what and why.

 

 

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> @cfmgolf said:

> At 95-97SS and smooth tempo, you might not be able to load the black or the yellow as they are quite stout and more for higher swing speeds or hard transition players.

 

I've actually had a different experience with the Even Flow Black. I don't think it plays stout whatsoever. I typically play a stiff shaft and I went with the 6.5 just to get a slightly firmer feel. The Even Flow Black is incredibly smooth.

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> @LazyLightning22 said:

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> > @cfmgolf said:

> > At 95-97SS and smooth tempo, you might not be able to load the black or the yellow as they are quite stout and more for higher swing speeds or hard transition players.

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> I've actually had a different experience with the Even Flow Black. I don't think it plays stout whatsoever. I typically play a stiff shaft and I went with the 6.5 just to get a slightly firmer feel. The Even Flow Black is incredibly smooth.

 

I agree 100%. I'm in an Evenflow black 6.0 and at times think it feels whippy, but dang it feels nice when swinging it.

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I'm actually in a similar situation. I lowered loft & finding the black is spinning too much & the yellow is not spinning enough. I need to find something in between those 2 without changing flex. Any ideas?

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I have used both in 6.0, SS 105ish with moderate tempo. For me the HZRDUS Yellow felt more stout, lower flight with much tighter dispersion. Almost too low spin at times. I have an Even Flow Black HC that i dont use because its just too loose for me, if i try to smooth my tempo it works just fine otherwise its kind of all over the place. Im probably going to sell it soon actually.

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? I thought higher lofts on a driver 'opens the face' favoring a push/slice?

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I'd look at Aldilia then. The Yellow plays close to an X stiff and has a pretty unique profile, but there a few Aldila's close to it. My favorite is the Rogue 125 tour stiff and the cheapest and most common is the Tour Green. But if you want something right in between those two, the best fit might be the Xtorsion Green. It's a similar profile to the EF black but a little stiffer and lower launching and it has some counterbalancing like the HZ Yellow.

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