My swing

[flogmaster]

Hi

hitting big blocks/pushes

i come from inside ( too much?) with open face

i cant seem to fix

any drills , recomendations , thoughts that may help?

frustrated!!

thanks

[Maddygirl]

In frame 2 you look to be in a great position. You need to release your hands. I am sure your going to get 20000000000 things to do that have you hitting 150000000 other positions, but you grooved a swing that just needs to be finished.

[flogmaster]

Thanks

and drills you can suggest??

[Meesh]

Can you post the video of the swing?

[flogmaster]

unfortunately because I am new to the site my vimeo url is not yet allowed

 

[jkim27]

Clubface is the last frame is wide open and looks like you're holding your wrist angles way too long instead of releasing the club. At that point your glove logo should be pointing to left or even to the ground = supination!

I'd recommend to try standing straight up, and holding the club straight out so that your arms and the club are parallel the ground. Swing the club around your body and feel how your right wrist/forearm really needs to turn over on top of your left arm.

Another good drill is to place an impact bag or range bucket about 1-2ft in front of the tee (no ball) down the target line and take some slow practice swings and try to hit the range basket with the toe of your driver.

Hope that helps.

[flogmaster]

Great thoughts!! Thankyo!

[Meesh]

Did you hit this drive off the toe? That would make the face look way open because of the gear effect

[Les Strokes]

have you tried a stronger grip? Cured same problem for me plus there are added benefits

edit; on second look your grip looks pretty strong, seems you haven't released your hands as Maddygirl says. There are some Mike Austin and Shawn Clement videos on that if you're interested

[Les Strokes]

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[druski10]

I just post it to youtube and then post the URL. You look like you are in good positions in the downswing. I would be interested to see the video.

[flogmaster]

 

sadly i tried that and golfwrx still wont allow the url posting

[hitemstr8r]

Flogmaster,

I suffered what looks to be a similar situation to yours. Do you find yourself not finishing the swing completely sometimes as well? Reason I ask is, if you look at the 2nd frame you provided, you seem to have pushed your lead hip out far (I know it's tough to tell from camera angle). I get stuck doing the same thing because I aggressively shift to the front foot and early. This video helped a lot for me and it has a good drill. Hope it helps you, I know it's frustrating trying multiple things that still don't seem to work!!

Well I tried to post the video link but I guess I can't...also frustrating. Look up Larry Cheung Golf on youtube and look for how to rotate more in the downswing. I truly think you'll like that video and it will help based on the limited info those photos provide. If I'm wrong, my apologies and I will have only wasted 5 mins of your time on youtube

 

 

[MrStiber]

Agree with hitemstr8r here.

Could be a (slight) slide in the hips which is compensated by a drop of the right shoulder. And if your hands doesn't get really active you will more likely than not end up in an open club face at impact (did I just describe your swing or my own.. (?) :D ). My blocks usually come when I get too aggressive / speedy in the transition and my hips slide more than rotate.

[flogmaster]

Thats quite eloquent prose!!

but how does one accomplish such? Drill ideas?

[flogmaster]

I have to check

[Les Strokes]

yes. I use the skipping the stone thought when I swing

[Les Strokes]

Lane, the homunculus concept was pretty interesting, thanks for that. Like you said, focusing on one task is best. For me, the thought of "skipping the stone" or even "throwing a sack of potatoes into a pickup truck" is what works, there is no need to dwell on positions, the body just does what it is told. However, for me, I also have to focus uppermost on the target - THAT is what I skip the stone to. There has to be an end destination in mind if one wants accuracy.

[Les Strokes]

Thanks. Of course Modern Golf instruction is mostly for the benefit of the instructor, not the student. Perhaps it feeds the Ego's need for control. We need to abandon control to gain control. Golf is such a game of opposites

[flogmaster]

 

https://vimeo.com/381047754thanks for the responses...finally can post a video

how does one get back to the “ skipping stone” simplicity? Is it just a matter of visualization or are there suggested drills?

when I attempt to swing the club with a skipping stone approach ...i feel as though my right shoulder drops way down and I am hitting from underneath the ball/plane as opposed to on top of it

 

[Les Strokes]

I'm not sure what you mean, but IMO you dont want the trail shoulder to come around the front, it should go under. But I don't think about any of that. I pick out a spot in the sky as my target and skip the stone to that point. It works for me and I added huge distance while getting perfect impact almost every time.

[Les Strokes]

well actually I was throwing a frisbee with my "trail" hand (right hand, as opposed to the backhand throw). And it dawned on me that it was a great golf motion because there is no thought to it other than throw to a target. It is a very similar motion to "skipping a stone", but "skipping a stone" is a better way for me to visualize when swinging a club. I see other people talk about the frisbee, like Monte, although I think they mean throwing backhand with the lead hand. I did not really "get" it until last Summer. Took me a little while to implement it. The power is phenomenal, very few people hit their irons further than me, tour included. Plus it straightened me out. Still working on the woods; it's a little more difficult for me because I can't fully use my iron swing with the woods teed up .

[Les Strokes]

yes the hand has to face up, and the elbow comes into the side naturally IMO.

thanks for the kind words; once I was talking to a doctor and she looked at me in astonishment and blurted out "You're a Critical Thinker!!!" the same way one might say "you're from MARS!". LOL. It's in the genes I think.

hope I haven't hijacked this thread too bad. No chance of a video for a while it's a snowy winter here right now. But I will say that since I made the breakthrough with the irons I have purposely NOT video'd my swing. I don't want to mess with it. I am just hanging on to the feel. If you want to look at a swing that is similar I suggest looking at Shawn Clement's videos. He outdrives me with the big stick but I'm catching up.

[flogmaster]

Gents

 

i love the thoughts, comments and suggestions. Attaching FO view with driver. Would welcome input on hand action...am i skipping stone ?

thankshttps://vimeo.com/385031261

[flogmaster]

Agreed i lose the angle relative to Sergio and BH

how does one solve for that?

 

[Hawkeye77]

Tennis stroke analogy with lead hand or frisbee analogy with lead hand has nothing to do with anyone teaching anyone that the left side should control the swing.

 

 

[Konsta]

I second that. I have an identical brother and I can say our swings don't look the same at all. Golf is the opposite of natural, and it's very hard to learn the best technique. Golf has to be learnt, it's not in our genes.

[dpb5031]

Path looks too inside-out and face is obviously open and in your video, I also see a hang-on chicken wing. I think you'd do well to neutral out your path and work on getting the handle around, allowing it to follow your rotating core.

The more you hang on while swinging the handle toward the target/right of target, the more you'll block slice it. If you do release it/let it go, I'd suspect it's hook city with that pattern.

[tyorke1]

similar backswing to dylan frittele Have a look at his downswing and compare.