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So I have a set of PXG 0211 irons (fitted at club champion), and my buddy plays an older set of Mizuno Blades. I find I can hit his irons much better than my own even though my irons are much larger and supposed to be significantly more forgiving. I've been told that some people fall into the "aim small miss small" category which makes them hit the small headed club with more precision as opposed to a larger head that they in turn just smack all the over the face of the club. Have any of you had similar experiences, or is my brain just being tricked by some joke the golf gods like to play on us?

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It’s a long suffering subject on here .... but in my opinion some players do hit thinner soled and smaller heads better ... based on swing style I believe personally ,,, ymmv

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IMO forgiveness is over rated. Learn how to play golf instead.

I'm not saying total hacks should play blades but if you've got a pretty decent swing but maybe your short game suffers or you can tend to stall the hips and hit hooks sometimes... it's no reason to force yourself into playing big ol shovels.

 

 

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Let's see how this thread goes before we jump to conclusions, you may find I'm right

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I have always played better with blades. Was a true statement when I was a 15 handicap and is a true statement today. I think for me it is the psychology of looking down at a small head instead of a skillet, but that is just me. No other fact based science to explain it, just scorecards to prove its true.

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Could be a number of things. 1) You have a sweeper swing and miss heavy, so thicker soles don't help much (while I've never seen them I;ve heard the 0211 look like i500s so that might not be the case). 2) Shafts are different, so you are able to time it better. 3) You possibly hit your friend's clubs a couple of times, never for a full round. I always hit someone else's club great when I swing them because my swing tends to be more deliberate. Playing a full round though you'll fall into habits and I bet your score is the same, if not slightly worse overall.

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That's why they make so many different drivers, putters, hybrids, wedges, shafts, grips- and irons. Personal preference. Find what works for you.

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For me, mentally looking at a larger head makes me feel like I have too much real estate. I had this problem with a set of Epon 703s. Thin top ling and everything but the blade length was long and made the face seem huge. I also don't like a large sole. Whether any of that is scientific I have no idea, but confidence goes a long way in this game.

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Have you played a full round or just hit them on the range?

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Same reason I play MB's. I bone every SGI or GI I ever try to hit, and it gets worse on the golf course. Being fairly shallow and low dynamic loft with irons, the thinner sole allows the club to cut into the grass easier allowing me to hit the ball up the face enough to spin it properly.

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I fall into the category of playing the best golf with clubs similar to what I grew up playing, or am accustomed to. They fit my eye, which in turn gives me the most confidence. Confidence seems to trump every other factor for me. I play the best golf with a standard CB head, and a small progressive offset. Wider soles work the best for my steep angle and soft courses around here. Bridgestone J15CB being a great example.

Really small blades with no offset aren't what I am used to, so it would take significant practice to get comfortable. Bigger irons with lot's of offset would probably take less practice time, but I have trouble lining them up properly (user error).

So not really surprised when someone mentions they hit a smaller iron with more consistency. If it fits your eye (and is the right flex), it's usually going to work.

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Great points here.... I had a similar experience when I took a set of Vapor Pros on vacation (for fun). I was lights out and didn't have a single (awful/blade miss over three rounds). I think it has a LOT to do with the sole....as you correctly state, if you are a sweeper who tends to miss fat (struggles to find the bottom) thicker souls can be a killer. I am exactly that which may explain the success I had with the Vapors. I've been working with a very highly respected club maker that is having me look very closely at the soles of my irons as related to my swing. I bought Tiger blades for fun and legitimately may consider gaming them next year.

Not surprisingly, he also thinks a lot more players can play blades that believe they can....they have a bit of a mythical existence today. But, back in the day, all our clubs were butter knives. But, you just made do bc that's all there was.....

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He and I play almost daily together. I work at my local course part time (Free golf!!!!!), he's a member. I havent used his irons exclusively during a round since we are walkers and sometimes heading in different directions, but I have used his irons on almost every hole before. We actually have a running joke that they are now our irons since I use them almost as much as he does.

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Boba, As has been touched on, a lot depends on what your miss is, release, etc. If you tend to push the ball or not shut the face, a blade will have lower MOI about the shaft so will open/close easier. If blade length is longer however, the opposite will occur. If you tend to already hit the ball high the lower Vertical CG will help bring your flight down a bit. Lots of factors, but it sounds like you may need to stick with blades. ?

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I absolutely cannot play chunky irons of any kind. I've only played golf for a little over 10 years and my first clubs were bladed looking cavity backs. It's all I knew, so that's what I learned on. I never had lessons until recently, but the immediate feedback you get from players irons were a pretty good teacher. The other factor that is confidence building with blade style irons is distance control. With GI irons, I've found that I can hit a couple of grooves high in the middle of the face and the ball goes almost 2 club lengths further sometimes. Low spin bombs. That's a real problem when trying to build trust in your irons. Just a couple of my useless thoughts....

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