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I wouldn't waste your time at McCormick - get a rental car and play others - if you've never played TPC do it just for the experience (not a great course). The Waste Management stands will be up and it changes the look and feel of the course especially the last 3 holes. TPC Champions course is good. Grayhawk and We Ko Pa are really good too. Keirland and Camelback courses are good to very good. People will pepper in courses like Quintero, Southern Dunes, Wickenburg, etc...and they are all good but they are pretty far from Scottsdale. If you want something affordable check out Papago - decent muni. McCormick is ok but I was really underwhelmed by it. Stay away from Biltmore - overpriced and not a great course. If you search for a member on this site (Argon??) he's been posting pics of courses he's played in and around Phoenix.

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Do not play Mccormick!!! You can go a mile down the road and play either of the Camelback courses which are head and shoulders. If price is a variable, look for some deals...still do not play Mccormick!

Also, do not waste your time or money on Kierland - it is a boring, resort course with no redeeming qualities. TPC is ok, but not a first choice.If it suits you budget and time wise - the recommendation from me would be: Play Wekopa Saguaro Course, Troon North Pinnacle, Verde River. Papago is a good muni for a little less money.

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I agree with the previous posts...cannot go wrong with either WeKoPa course. I would also throw in Talking Stick - North Course as well. A wonderful Coore / Crenshaw design.

My set-up:
Bag - Flex Tech Crossover
Driver - Ping G430 MAX with HZRDUS Black Smoke

3 Wood - Ping G430

Hybrid - Rocketballz 3 Hybrid
Irons - Cobra King Tour irons

Wedges - Ping Glide 4  50* / 54* / 58*
Putter - Bettinardi Queen Bee #6
Shoes - Ecco Hybrid
Ball - Maxfli Tour X

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I don't see how anyone can call Papago affordable. It's currently $114 midweek mornings. If you want an affordable muni that's fun, check out Aguila.

Personally, I'd make the trek down to Maricopa to play Southern Dunes. Tee times can be had for $90 or less. Definitely one of the better courses in the area, and a real bargain. Otherwise you can't go wrong with We Ko Pa, Grayhawk, or the Troon courses. However, they'll set you back close to $200.

Eagle Mountain is a fun layout, along with Sunridge Canyon.

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Lol. I gotta agree. If it's your first visit, or 15th visit, then stay away from the low end courses. I've played most of the better courses in the area, and I'm on a budget this trip.

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TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver 16 - Matrix Speed RUL-Z 60 Stiff
Ping G410 7wd 20.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (43")
Ping G410 9wd 23.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (42.5")
Ping G425 6h 30 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 70 Stiff
PXG 0311P Gen3 6-P (2 Deg Weak, 1 Deg Flat) - True Temper Elevate 95 S /

Ping i200 6-P Orange Dot (2 Deg Weak, 2 Deg Flat) - True Temper XP 95 S
Ping Glide 4.0 52-12 S, 56-10 Eye2, and 60-10 S Orange Dot (2 Deg Flat) - Ping Z-Z115 Wedge
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We Ko Pa Saguaro is my favorite course I’ve played in AZ on my two trips there. I guess ive stuck to the top recommendations here since I’ve only played the two We Ko Pa courses, southern dunes, and the two Troon North courses. The back 9 at Troon North Monument is awesome, so I’d recommend that one too even though the general consensus is Pinnacle might have a better total of 18 holes.

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Winter rates for non-residents. Resident rates are $24 cheaper. Non-residents can play in twilight for $50. Summer rates are much cheaper. City Card holders play for $69 weekday mornings.

Ping G425 Max Driver 12 (0 Flat) - Aldila Ascent Red 50 Stiff (46")
TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver 16 - Matrix Speed RUL-Z 60 Stiff
Ping G410 7wd 20.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (43")
Ping G410 9wd 23.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (42.5")
Ping G425 6h 30 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 70 Stiff
PXG 0311P Gen3 6-P (2 Deg Weak, 1 Deg Flat) - True Temper Elevate 95 S /

Ping i200 6-P Orange Dot (2 Deg Weak, 2 Deg Flat) - True Temper XP 95 S
Ping Glide 4.0 52-12 S, 56-10 Eye2, and 60-10 S Orange Dot (2 Deg Flat) - Ping Z-Z115 Wedge
PXG Blackjack 36" - SuperStroker Flatso 2.0

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Definitely the highlight of the trip so far!

Ping G425 Max Driver 12 (0 Flat) - Aldila Ascent Red 50 Stiff (46")
TaylorMade AeroBurner Mini Driver 16 - Matrix Speed RUL-Z 60 Stiff
Ping G410 7wd 20.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (43")
Ping G410 9wd 23.5 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 65 Stiff (42.5")
Ping G425 6h 30 (0 Flat) - Alta CB 70 Stiff
PXG 0311P Gen3 6-P (2 Deg Weak, 1 Deg Flat) - True Temper Elevate 95 S /

Ping i200 6-P Orange Dot (2 Deg Weak, 2 Deg Flat) - True Temper XP 95 S
Ping Glide 4.0 52-12 S, 56-10 Eye2, and 60-10 S Orange Dot (2 Deg Flat) - Ping Z-Z115 Wedge
PXG Blackjack 36" - SuperStroker Flatso 2.0

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Papago, relative to the other courses in the area at this time of year, is very affordable. 50-80% less depending on the course. I'd also say it's a really good value in term of conditions/layout/challenge/cost. The other thing it has going for is it's close to both Phoenix and Scottsdale. Agree on Aguila although it's a bit of hike from McCormick Ranch area. If you want cheap go to Encanto or GCU however, expect those to be a significant drop off in terms of quality. If you want affordable great quality golf you need to come to Phoenix in May-Sept.

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Just got back from Scottsdale and I played 4 courses. Ranked them below:

We-Ko-Pa SagauroTPC Stadium (had voucher)Wickenburg Ranch - fun layout with a bunch of par 5s and 3sVerde RiverAll were really nice even Verde River had great conditions. We-Ko-Pa really stands out though. Loved the design and was absolutely beautiful scenery. I dont know exactly how to describe the feeling other than it's what golf should feel like.

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