Any info on the Scotty Cameron Select 2020 line?

[Scotty1140]

That was a odd design. A head and insert of the same metal with double sided tape in between.

Based on the feel of the other solid (w/ sole weights) stainless steel Cameron lines we've had, I'm sure the feel is really similar.

The intriguing part for me here is the Newport and Newport 2's. With a smaller head the sole weight are much much heavier. One would think this'll result in higher MOI and forgiveness. I'm interested to see if there's any difference.

[Re*Ax]

looks to me that the 3 red rings are actually a badge, so I’m thinking the vibration dampening will be in those, (VAS technology) this will be what’s described as “tuned for sound” or similar and removes the need for the sticky tape

[Nixhex524]

I have a 2016 NP2 also, with a Pingman grip on it... and I just picked up a 2014(?) Golo 7 with the deep milled face. The NP2 feels a little softer to me actually which is surprising. I am in the small minority that doesnt hate the insert feel. It looks goofy, but feel wise, I like it and have found it to be very consistent from a distance control standpoint. Occasionally I get the urge to sell it, but then I have a really good round with it... The 2020 line is intriguing for sure but these OTR prices are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

[tjhanch]

For those that have seen/held the putter, what does the grip compare to? New model? Ora regraphic of a current model?

[Rory4Pres]

It wouldn't surprise me if Scotty Cameron has come out with disappointing headcovers (t22 and 2020 select line) on purpose to try and get more people buying (and maybe collecting) his special release headcovers. Seems like something he would do.

[VNutz]

But why do that when most sell out anyway? I'll reserve judgement on the headcover until I see it in hand. Save for the Studio Design yellow covers I've not seen one SC OTR cover that really caught my attention as being amazing, and likewise few that I've looked at and said they're terrible. They're stock covers, nothing to get worked up about IMO.

[herbert7890]

Although I LOVE Scotty Cameron putters, I have to agree with this.

[Scotty1140]

It’s supposed to be the Pistolini Plus. So if you’ve hit the T22’s, it’s the same grip.

 

 

[jrshelby]

You mean Pistolini Plus.

[Rory4Pres]

"But why do that when most sell out anyways?"

My response is simple....If he has more people wanting to buy them, then he can either increase his release quantities and/or price.

Bettinardi had a release a month ago where they charged $500 for a headcover (1/1) and it sold out in seconds. I would think Scotty Cameron is paying attention and probably wanting to grow the revenue of headcovers and other accessories but he wants a demand to support it. Demand has to be higher than supply in order for his type of selling to work. Nike 101.

[Scotty1140]

Yeah I meant that, thanks. While I was typing that I was thinking about how I wished it was the Pistolero haha.

[Thats two thus far Shooter]

HOW DARE YOU COME IN HERE AND USE SUCH VILE WORDS LIKE "VIBRATION DAMPENING". IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK LIKE THAT THEN YOU JUST GO ON AND GET OUTTA HERE.

[VNutz]

So purposely put out a supposed poor design in an elongated attempt to drive up demand and cost.

 

The majority of the golfing public don't know about non stock Cameron covers. Most I talk to get their cover and use it regardless of how it looks, the WRX and collecting crowd is by far the minority. I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've seen a studio released SC cover out in the wild save for Cameron events. And any time I've had people experienced with Cameron ask about any of my covers they didn't even know such a market existed. A poor cover IMO isn't going to push them into that world.

[TreyMac]

Man these look amazing! Can't wait to pick up a NP2. Most likely going to head to GT and get one custom ordered. The Pistolini Plus grip is too tiny for my hands. Going to get a Matador Mid-size as is on my 2018 Select NP2 and some custom engravings!

Wish I had $2500 kicking around to buy that tour one!

[semarlor]

I think I've decided to get a NP2 full retail and then wait for a Flowback 5.5 to show up on BST and try to save a couple bucks, lol.

[MK7Golf21]

I putted with them today and compared to last years. They do have the same exact silver finish as last years, not smokey or whatever people were saying. Np2 looked pretty slim, had a nice feel and has a small tri sole. The 2018 ones felt harder to me. Headcover isn’t standard smooth leather, has a weird texture but isn’t as bad as the pictures.

[towncryer]

The cover is the "ballistic nylon" material that Scotty has used on some of his covers. The 2012 US Open Smiley Face cover, for example, is the same material,. Bullet-proof stuff...I really like it as an offering for a rugged everyday head cover.

I actually really like the look of the HC. VERY bright red with the yellow pops off of it.

 

[MK7Golf21]

Yea, that’s what it is, almost called it vinyl. It did seem pretty rugged and strong

[kfurno]

When will Scotty use magnets instead of Velcro?

[luke1333]

This

[fredstar]

Cover looks ok to me.

[jrshelby]

 

Thats the Circle T one but similar.

[Rory4Pres]

It is a conspiracy theory, I know but keep in mind, we ARE talking about a guy/company that has made tens of millions of dollars offering products that leave you desiring more, which they so conveniently offer in the Circle T line and special releases.

You see tons of examples of people on here saying something to the extent of "I really want to get a circle T". If you make a "decent/good headcover" included with the select line putter, why wouldn't the consumer have that same mental thought for headcovers as they do Circle T putters? It's a good/decent headcover, but is it awesome, no. Would you like an awesome one, possibly....

It could be that OR it could just be they wanted a super bright Red headcover that would stand out in the bag and grab the attention of other golfers and get them to say "Hey, is that the new Scotty? What do you think of it?"

Sometimes it's as basic of raw material supply/cost. If leather is going for a premium at the moment, they switch to nylon.

Just food for thought.

[VNutz]

I see it differently than you I guess. I see back to the beginning, when all they had were stock covers. Then somewhere along the line the idea for custom and special released covers came along, with unique and cool designs, and at a higher price point, eventually the same for putters. They did seize on the opportunity to sell covers at a higher price point, but it's within reason at $76 as opposed to others. People were willing to pay more, they offered items to fill that demand, simple good business. At no point did they make the stock offerings purposely worse, they just introduced new offerings that make them seem more bland by comparison. You refer to these covers, and now putters, as purposely inferior in order to sell higher priced items, when in reality they're doing pretty consistently with how they've done things all along. Sure there's marketing involved, that's part of business, but IMO it's not this scheme you refer to it as.

[Rory4Pres]

"People were willing to pay more, they offered items to fill that demand, simple good business. At no point did they make the stock offerings purposely worse, they just introduced new offerings that make them seem more bland by comparison" Bland by comparison and "good/decent" are awfully similar in a lot of ways.

"You refer to these covers, and now putters, as purposely inferior in order to sell higher priced items" Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. If you, as a consumer, view the circle T items as premium/top notch, then that would directly mean their normal OTR line was "inferior."

"but IMO it's not this scheme you refer to it as" It's not a scheme. They aren't pulling a fast one on you to steal your money. It's a type of marketing/sales, that is simply creating a demand in a niche market. Once again, following Nike's footsteps for success. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong. That's not my intentions. I do like to ask "why are they doing this or that, what's the reasoning" and think about it from marketing/sales point of view.

[jick]

There will be a newport 2.5 in the new series.

[NYCGolfNut]

Not sure this has been definitively answered before, but do folks know when these can be pre-ordered? Specifically, for a specific length and weight?

[DatSliceDoe]

I am certainly glad to see these more familiar shapes coming back into fashion for SC.

[thevaporz]

Watch out for the insert models to drop in resale value once these hit the stores.

[TTCarrera]

Can someone remind us of the expected Announcement Date and the subsequent expected date that the shops can sell them? Thanks in advance.