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Have heard the MMT's are awesme and will give them a shot but was looking for maybe 1 or 2 other options to compare against. I don't know much about graphite shaft options but i want something that plays similar weight and stiffness to my x100s. Came from C tapers 130x before that and loved them but my elbows didnt. Swing it pretty fast with an aggressive tempo. Just looking for something to take some pressure off my joints.

What other options should i compare against?

TM Stealth 9 degrees, Ventus Blue TR 6x

TM Stealth plus 3 wood 15 degrees, Ventus Blue TR 6x

TM Sim2 TI 5 wood, 18 degrees 

Callaway UW '21, 21 degrees

TM P7MC 2023, 4-pw, fujikura axiom 125x

Srixon RTX 6 - 52,56,60 

Odyssey White Hot OG 1 Wide, KBS graphite putter shaft

 

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KBS TGI, Steelfiber, Recoil, Accra to name a few. Lots of great STIFF graphite out there these days!

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... I have played Recoil 95/110, Recoil 95 Prototypes, NV Tour 130/Pro 105, VS Proto 100s and Steelfiber 95's all in stiff flex. I have a smooth transition so I am the opposite of the OP. The Steelfiber S Flex were much too firm/stout for a smooth swing and I think they are ideal for an aggressive hitter. Ariya Jutanugarn is as aggressive as it gets and she plays Steelfiber in her irons. Fwiw, I just picked up some Steelfiber 95 in R flex to try in some new P790's as Aerotech recommended dropping a flex for a smooth swing. While all the graphite shafts I have played have a dampened feel that personally I like, they are unlike steel and take a little getting used to, the Steelfibers were much closer to steel in feel than all other graphite iron shafts I have played. I think that explains Steelfiber success on the PGA, LPGA and Champions Tour where players have hit thousands if not millions of shots with steel shafts and do not want a radically different feel.

Driver:       TM Qi10 ... Ventus Velocore Red 5R
Fairway:    Cobra Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R
Hybrids:    Ping G430 22* ... Alta CB Black 70r
                  TM Dhy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r

Irons:         Titleist T200 '23 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r
Wedges:    Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r
Putter:       Cobra King Sport-60
Ball:            2023 Maxfli Tour

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Recoil Protos 125 or 110 F5....been there done it!

Also try the AMT x100

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C taper guy myself but have been playing with a set of AMT white (srixon z forged) and have felt a ton of relief on some of those iron swings. Graphite for me is also a tad intimidating seeing as there are so many options, and not many suited to a stronger player.

Callaway Paradym 9* PX HZRDUS Gen4 Black 60 6.0

Callaway Paradym 15* - PX HZRDUS Gen4 Black 70 6.0

Callaway Rogue ST Pro 3 HB 20* - Tensei White 85 S

Callaway Rogue ST Pro 4-PW - DG 105 S300

Vokey SM9 50* - 54* - 58* - TT Wedge 

Odyssey White Hot OG 2 Ball


Titleist ProV1

 

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I have played and loved Recoil Protos, but switch to MRC OTI which are hands down better for me. Both are great shafts.

Stealth OG 10.5 Ventus Red 6s

Epic flash 18deg Fujikura pro 6.0s

Maverick 21deg 7wd Fujikura pro 7.0S

5i-Aw Srixon ZX5  KBS TGI 100

52 Glide 4.0 SS KBS TGI 100

56 Glide 4.0 WS KBS TGI 100

60 Glide 4.0 TS KBS TGI 100

Lab DF3 70 deg 35.5" Accra Black

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I find the Aldila RIP 115 to be the closest match to CTapers. The Accras are excellent, but they'll be a little lighter than what you're currently playing. MMTs will probably be your best bet.

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Titleist u505 22* w/ Atmos Blue HB 85 (S)
Titleist T200/150 5-PW w/ Steelfiber i110 (S)
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Steelfiber 125x or Recoil Prototype 125 f5..... Steelfiber will be lower launching and more similar to Ctaper's. I found the recoils to be a little loose for me with higher ball flight.

TM Qi10 9* ... KBS TD Serape 60x

TM Stealth 2+ 4w ... KBS TD Rainbow 70x

TM Stealth 2+ 6w*... KBS TD Rainbow 80x

Titleist 5h 23* C1 ... KBS Proto 105 S+

Mizuno Pro 243 5 - P ... KBS TGI 110

TM MG4 50 S, 56 LB, 60 TW... KBS $-Taper 130x

Greyson x Bettinardi SS3 and QB6

 

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FYI...played both Recoil and Steelfiber last season for first time and my wrist, elbow and fingers never felt better. My knuckles would ache with overuse before, but never had an issue last season on graphite and played even more. I liked the Recoil a bit better, but I am not a high SS player. Steelfibers were good too but I had to really be on form and swinging great or would lose my irons right and short. In other words, steelfibers were distance and consistency winners on the driving range but Recoils won out on course.

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The first thing I would zero in on is weight since that is usually the thing that trips people up when making the switch. Recoil 125, Steelfiber i125, and the MMT 125 if you can get it, that is where I would start personally.

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Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 18* Graphite Design AD-IZ 95X
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Matrix Program 130's might fit the bill as well as far as the weight range goes (swingweighting is difficult due to balance point from what I've read though).

Taylormade SIM2 - Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 70 6.5

Cobra LTD 3w - Project X Evenflow Black 85 6.0

Cobra LTD 5w - Project X Evenflow Black 85 6.0

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New Level 902 OS 5-PW - Mitsubishi MMT 105s
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Scratch Forged SS 56 - Nippon Modus Wedge 115

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You might try some softer grips on the shaft you have.

 

G430 MAX 10K 9° w/ventus velocore red 5s

G430 MAX threewood ping chrome tour2 65 S
Taylor Made SIM MAX2 5wood w/ventus velocore blue 7

Adams 23º 9031 proto w' diamana ahina 82
Eye2   3-SW

Oddessy Rossie nsl og slant neck.  

 

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My swing is a tad different from others... I am a hitter of the ball with a faster than normal transition and tempo. I won't go into the all the shafts I tested before switching from PX 6.0. Just share the two best of the lot; MMT which is an outstanding shaft and my final choice Steelfiber i95cw "S" in 2iron, i110cw "S" in 3-6 620CBs, and i125cw "S" in 7-SW 620MBs...talk about a blended set. Mid-high bend, Low-mid trajectory benefits of graphite and low dispersion stiff tips of steel and no vibration. Yet, I can still tell at impact were the ball is going without looking up.

It's a tough decision. Good luck.

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  • T200 17' 2i Tensei AV Raw White Hybrid 95S
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  • T100 5i to 9i MMT 105S
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Graphite has saved my elbows!! I was close to giving golf up 18 months ago, getting shots in my elbows, and finding no relief. Graphite saved golf for me.

IMO Steelfiber S flex will stand up to the strongest of swings. I have never loved the feel but their performance is stout with lower launch than any Recoil with my swing.

The Recoil Proto's will launch and play stiffer IMO than the non-proto. I played them for 6 months.

The everyday Recoil 110 F4 is my personal favorite. It fits a wide range of swings. My assistant pro and I got on Trackman a few weeks ago and he plays the Srixon Z945 shafted with Recoil 110 F4 shafts. His driver SS averaged 108 and his readings showed almost optimal results on all of his iron shots. He is 25 years old.

I am 61 and play the Z785 shafted with the same Recoil 110 F4 shafts. My driver SS averaged 98.6. My iron readings were not as close to optimal but the fitter said he would be hard pressed to fit either of us in a different iron shaft.

Good luck with your choice and your elbows!

 

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4w - Titleist Tsi2 with Tensei Raw Blue shaft

19 Hy - Titleist 818 H1 with Atmos Tour Spec

23 Hy - Titleist 818 with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI shaft

5i-PW - Bridgestone J15 CB with Recoil F4 110 shafts

50,54,and 58 Wilson Staff wedges with SF shafts

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Any WRXers using KBS TGI or Fuji Pro graphite in their irons? I'm looking to make the switch for this year to save my elbows. Steelfiber seems to be the leader in golf. I'll be moving from DG Pro S300, Driver swing speed is a smooth 112-115 avg. 6I upper 90's. I'm not sure I really like the Recoil in my Srixon Zu85 20* 3i - seems kinda whip y if I get after it on a swing.

Callaway Paradym TD 10.5* @ 8.5* - Fuji Blue Velocore+ 6s  tipped 1"

2021 Callaway UW 17* & 21* - Fuji Red Ventus Velocore 7X
Callaway Apex TCB  4-pw - Steelfiber i110cw S hard stepped 1"  &  BStone J15CBs 4-pw - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120x

Callaway Jaws Forged TI red dots 52@50/56@55/60*& Jaws Raw Z grind 60*z, DG TI S400

2021 Odyssey Tri-Hot 5K DW & 2021 Eleven slant neck
Ball: 2024 Callaway Chrome Tour X -tested, great feel & spin!

 

 

 

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Just received my Miura CB57's (4-PW) with the Fujikura Pro 115s shafts. Just a quick simulator league 9 hole outing, but so far so good. Elbow and wrist issues here as well. I need to hit the outdoor heated range this weekend for a full session before I'm prepared to give my thoughts.

Driver: Cobra LTDxLS @ 9º (8.25º) w/ Fujikura Speeder TR 661s

Fairway: Callaway Mavrik 4W @ 16º w/ ProjectX Evenflow Black 70s

Hybrid: Sub70 939x 4H @ 21º w/ ProjectX Black Hybrid 6.0

Irons: Artisan HC 4/5 w/ Steelfiber i95cw Stiff; 6-PW w/ Steelfiber i110cw Stiff

Wedges: Artisan Raw 51º, 56º, 61º w/ Modus 120s (to  be re-shafted with Steelfibers to match irons)

Putter: Artisan 0318 Deep Milled

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I have some Winn Dritac's on some Steelfiber i95 stiff's, pretty smooth combination. I have a set of irons with PX LZ 6.5's that I love the feel of but like other's I have body part issues. I will try putting on some mid sized Dritac's on the Px's before I switch out the shafts to graphite. My favourite at the moment are the Matrix Ozik Program F15 120's.

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Steelfibers. If you can make the weight transition, the i95cw in the correct flex for you is not a “loose” shaft. Trajectory and spin very similar to dg. I went with the 125’s in the wedges, but the 95’s were ok in my other irons. Was an x100 player until about 10 years ago. More recently I was in PX 6.0. My joints have thanked me for making the change.

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Great point Stuart, forgot those come in a little bit light.

Taylormade SIM2 - Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 70 6.5

Cobra LTD 3w - Project X Evenflow Black 85 6.0

Cobra LTD 5w - Project X Evenflow Black 85 6.0

PXG 0311x 4 DI - Mitsubishi MMT 90s

New Level 902 OS 5-PW - Mitsubishi MMT 105s
New Level 902 OS 50 - Mitsubishi MMT 105x

Scratch Forged SS 56 - Nippon Modus Wedge 115

Scratch Forged SS 60 - Nippon Modus Wedge 115

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