Tiger Woods - WITB January 2020

[wely324]

He is saying that because they are "milled" and not hand ground, so when he gets a new set of wedges it will be the same as his last set. Whether they will be mass produced and available to the public is a different story.

[bladehunter]

@Shilgy

for example. Here’s tigers lob vs gary woodlands “ tw” lob wedge. Notice the MG emblem and it’s relation to the toe outline. Also the leading edge grind on tigers. And the artisan player number.
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[img]https://s3.amazonaws.com/golfwrxforums/uploads/160/K3JMDM4B3MMQ.png[/img]Top one is tigers. Bottom is gary’s. Not same same.

[Shilgy]

In the post of mine you quoted I said the TW grind is NOT the same as retail. But he likes that he can get as many as he needs and they are all perfect because of how they are manufactured.

[bladehunter]

If you’re agreeing with me I don’t know what you’re saying ?

 

Tigers wedge isn’t close to the retail shape as I posted pics above. The toe and whole outline is rounder. You can’t order that shape from TM.

[Shilgy]

I know that. The post you originally replied to had stated no one would have imagined Tiger player TM mass produced wedges. And they are mass produced as the grind is just computer milled. But, as we both stated they are not a retail grind. So not available at relationships but they are mass produced. Capiche?

[bladehunter]

Sure. They took MTs work and copied it into code so that they could mill his wedges and irons. But I bet that never becomes retail , I bet TM doesn’t own it. But they will sell a close facsimile and let you believe it’s the exact same. Just like the irons. Marketing machine.

[charlesgwynn]

Can anyone tell me his precise iron lofts? Thanks.

[scott_Donald]

 

Interesting looking at that, after being for an Artisan fitting you can see the changes from Tigers to Woodlands; they talk about that with their final grinding etc.

[Shilgy]

Geez Blade...no one said they are the same as retail or available retail. The reason Tiger likes them is because they are able to be mass produced-exact grind is computer generated. In the past it was an excruciating process to get the grind and feel precisely correct for him.

But I am not sure why you believe TM could not sell the same grind if they wanted to. Are the P7TW the same grind or not?

[bladehunter]

I didn’t state any absolutes.

 

And im not sure at all what the disagreement is with my original post. You’re going to have to lead me there. I don’t know what you are disagreeing with.

 

Tm will sell a TW branded wedge that isn’t like tigers. That’s a great marketing machine. That’s all I said.

[Shilgy]

Are they going to sell a TW grind? I had not heard that. But if they do what makes you think they could not retail it? Does someone own the rights to a particular grind? If so how were the TW irons sold?

[bladehunter]

Why else brand them TW for other players ? Of course they will market these. Tm is out to make money.

 

Youll have tp go read the tw irons thread for the differences. It starts with material they made them out of.

therea a reason why his irons and wedges carry an artisan number and former artisan players like Rory’s clubs don’t. It has to do with who builds them.

In other words. If you spent years and years perfecting a recipe , would you hand off your work to someone else for free ? I wouldn’t. The evidence says that work wasn’t handed off to TM here. By the branding of that works owner. No ?

[wely324]

according to TM, his iron lofts are, 22.5, 25.5, 29, 32.5, 36, 40.5, 45, 49.

[AlohaJoe]

Thanks! Still, I'm wondering why there are two 60* wedges in his bag - maybe a different grind, weight, or length?

[wely324]

Yes, my guess would be he is testing some sort of change to the grind or slightly different head shape. I'd imagine Tiger is pretty set on what he likes in terms of swing weight and club length.

[rblmp32]

I’d assume it’s something with the grind and bounce. Maybe one for softer conditions and one for firmer?

[TreyMac]

Two different bounces, one high one low....depending on course conditions

[mjwolfpack1]

Anyone else gone from d+ 70 to a 60 gram shaft? Any increase in distance or accuracy?

[MakersMarsh3]

What adapter setting are the 3w and 5w in?

[texcellence86]

Looks to be Upright and 1 click open.

[deli_llama]

I wish we could see this compared to his 1999 US Open WITB

[TheMoneyShot]

Sounds like TW is close to putting in the SIM Max Rocket 3 metal this week!

[TheMoneyShot]

Possibility of a 3-wood change in Tiger’s bag https://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2020/07/13/equipment-golf-clubs-possibility-of-a-3-wood-change-in-tiger-woods-bag-the-memorial-tournament-presented-by-nationwide-muirfield-village-golf-club.webview.html

[rapeck]

wonder when he will ditch the M3 5 wood and go to SIM.. but who knows maybe its old trusty for him

[Valtiel]

He has a long history of hanging on to old 5-woods through several product cycles. My guess is that it doesn't go anywhere until the next one.

[SigmaKyle31987]

 

Top picture from Tuesday & bottom from Wednesday with M5 3W still in the bag; he must love both of those clubs.

[Yellow Jacket]

@TaylorMadeGolf has conflicting information about the length of his wedges. The product page shows 35.5” and 35.25” while the custom catalog shows both of them 35.5”. The bounce and lie angles are different, and the swing weights don’t make sense.

 

I just want to know what his wedge setup is (PW down). ?

 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Yellow Jacket

[swagee]

that elder wand and all of the battle scars... sweet geezus. 

i imagined TW would play a heavier driver shaft. only 60g in reality. interesting