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> @st_pedro said:

> The 7X ended up in fairway metal #3. Straight in installation with 0.5” spare in case I need to tip. Still testing

> Driver with XC6X is easier to load and control for multiple tournament days

 

> @st_pedro said:

> The 7X ended up in fairway metal #3. Straight in installation with 0.5” spare in case I need to tip. Still testing

> Driver with XC6X is easier to load and control for multiple tournament days

 

Nice! How about XC comparison to the ZF you tested? I have the ZF 60Tx now. Still interested in the XC, as I got along well with the AD BB.

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> @danielwkelliher said:

> > @st_pedro said:

> > The 7X ended up in fairway metal #3. Straight in installation with 0.5” spare in case I need to tip. Still testing

> > Driver with XC6X is easier to load and control for multiple tournament days

>

> > @st_pedro said:

> > The 7X ended up in fairway metal #3. Straight in installation with 0.5” spare in case I need to tip. Still testing

> > Driver with XC6X is easier to load and control for multiple tournament days

>

> Nice! How about XC comparison to the ZF you tested? I have the ZF 60Tx now. Still interested in the XC, as I got along well with the AD BB.

 

When BB first launched a few years back, I didn’t quite like the feel or how it loads.

Then again it might be due to my swing character and how the driver matched up and I was fitted with GP6X

XC resembles more to matrix TPHD white ozik, feel wise for me.

Didn’t have the exact EI data comparison, just pure feel which was very subjective

 

The ZF gives slightly higher ball speed on sweet spot hit but I did struggle to consistently load the shaft.

Probably due to my swing error or it just simply load differently for my swing type

Flatter ball flight with mid kick resembles iZ or DI on steroids. Might gained in total distance but lose on carry in comparison to XC

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> @deep18 said:

> So does this signal they’re going to start rolling out updated versions of all their older model shafts like the DI?

 

That's what the IZ was supposed to be!

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> @opus_mh said:

> > @deep18 said:

> > So does this signal they’re going to start rolling out updated versions of all their older model shafts like the DI?

>

> That's what the IZ was supposed to be!

 

I thought the TP was the closest new GD shaft to the legendary DI.

 

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Still doing some testing with this in a XC 6X

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> @danielwkelliher said:

> > @ForTourUseOnly said:

> > hfjgjflo2jqf.png

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> Nice numbers. Have you tried any of the other new shafts like Ventus Black or Diamana ZF? Those and the XC are on my radar right now. My numbers are similiar to yours with slightly lower attack angle.

 

> @Jamesng2003 said:

> Anybody have any comments on how this shaft plays and feels? I like the BB.

 

I haven’t tried the ZF but I have tried the Ventus black. Ventus Black felt a little stiffer and was a touch more spin for me.

 

I haven’t hit BB in a long time but this is designed to be the new BB profile.

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> @ForTourUseOnly said:

> > @danielwkelliher said:

> > > @ForTourUseOnly said:

> > > hfjgjflo2jqf.png

> > >

> >

> > Nice numbers. Have you tried any of the other new shafts like Ventus Black or Diamana ZF? Those and the XC are on my radar right now. My numbers are similiar to yours with slightly lower attack angle.

>

> > @Jamesng2003 said:

> > Anybody have any comments on how this shaft plays and feels? I like the BB.

>

> I haven’t tried the ZF but I have tried the Ventus black. Ventus Black felt a little stiffer and was a touch more spin for me.

>

> I haven’t hit BB in a long time but this is designed to be the new BB profile.

 

Awesome. Did you end up tipping the XC 1"?

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> @danielwkelliher said:

> > @ForTourUseOnly said:

> > > @danielwkelliher said:

> > > > @ForTourUseOnly said:

> > > > hfjgjflo2jqf.png

> > > >

> > >

> > > Nice numbers. Have you tried any of the other new shafts like Ventus Black or Diamana ZF? Those and the XC are on my radar right now. My numbers are similiar to yours with slightly lower attack angle.

> >

> > > @Jamesng2003 said:

> > > Anybody have any comments on how this shaft plays and feels? I like the BB.

> >

> > I haven’t tried the ZF but I have tried the Ventus black. Ventus Black felt a little stiffer and was a touch more spin for me.

> >

> > I haven’t hit BB in a long time but this is designed to be the new BB profile.

>

> Awesome. Did you end up tipping the XC 1"?

 

I haven't built it yet just using a demo which is untipped.

Ventus Black feels much stiffer int he handle and Freq out about a full flex stiffer overall.

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> @Matt70 said:

> I have trouble keeping the DI and the BB down. Both are high launch for me.

>

> Can anyone recommend another GD shaft to try.

>

> I was recommended to try the VR? Anyone tried that one? Cheers.

 

Perhaps you might wanna try TourAD GP

 

Is it swing mechanical issue? Driver loft?

What flex of DI and BB?

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> @Matt70 said:

> DI 6 x in XR Sub zero at 8.5

> Bb 7x in Titleist TS3 5 wood

>

> I had the Gp in a TM 3 wood and that was even higher.

>

> However, the DI is a fairway finder so hard to give up but I get 10 yards of roll if I’m lucky!! ?

 

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Built these up, ended up tipping the driver 1/2"

They are more counterblanced than I expected, the need about 1-1.5g less headweight than Tensei Orange (super counter balanced)

 

So far with testing the XC doesn't feel quite as smooth to me but I have gained some speed in the driver, likely more due to going to 65g over my normal TPO 70

Now that the snow has come I won't be able to hit these outdoors until the new year but i'll give them a workout indoors to see if they will replace my TPO's as my gamers for next season.

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Little more testing on the 6x and 8x for fairway and I have picked up a little club head speed over my current gamers but seem to find the middle of the face better and the feel is smoother in my current gamers. Will do a little more testing but not sure anything is going to replace my faithful TPO’s

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currently gaming the Ventus black 7x. Just tried the XC 7X for a couple swings. This is gonna be a tough choice. The initial feel of the XC is better to me. It’s only been a couple swings.... but damn ?. Will be interested to see the stats and if the dispersion is as tight as the Ventus black.

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Just ordered a 6x for the driver from People's Golf cyber monday sale. Will compare to my current TZ5 M4 which is a bit tip heavy and the XC sounds like it may be more neutral to higher balanced point which I want to try in the heavier PING G410 head. Was fitted for Tensei Pro White in fairway and hybrid and have played it in driver before and this profile seems to work for me in woods so am excited to give it a whirl.

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Got out to hit the 6x in my G410+. Shaft works great. Definitely, lighter swing weight than the TZ5 which I was hoping for. Nice flat trajectory for me.

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Debating between the XC8X vs Fuji Pro 2.0TS 8X in a Mavrik wood....

 

Currently gaming a Hzrdus Green Hulk 70TX in my driver.

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I've used a lot of different Graphite Design shafts over the years -- BB, DI, MT, GP, and P9003, including a few different BBs and DIs. I'd gotten away from the GD shafts the last few years in favor of the Aldila Rogue Silver (mostly 125 MSI, but I did use a 130 MSI version last year). I've been doing some testing of the AD XC against a Ventus Black, the 130 MSI Rogue and an Aldila Synergy Tour Green during the winter, and I've been really impressed with the AD XC over the first couple of range sessions (also with the Ventus -- those two seem to be the leading contenders). I've found the AD XC does a better job of keeping the launch angle down and has a firmer feel than the AD BB that I've used in the past. It's a definite contender to end up in my bag to start the year.

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Had a top of bag fitting today with Major at Impact Precision Golf here in Houston and we went with the GD Tour AD XC in a Mavrik Sub Zero 15* head. ~160 ball speed 12* launch and 3300 rpm. Average about 260 carry. This setup was very anti left which is what I was looking for. Can’t wait to get it in the next week and I’ll give an on course review.

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